Jeremy Lin

[jersez]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Who's better?
a) rose my pick
b)paul
c)westbrook
d)lin lol

Paul and Lin are the only pure point guards. Guards that set the offense up, get their teammates great looks, and can control the game tempo. Westbrook and Rose are point guards by position but look for their shots than set up an offense or are capable of getting their teammates great looks. Rose before he was injured lowered his shot attempts and his assist went up. Rose is on his way but I consider Paul and Lin pure points. Lin gets points but they are never forced or bad shots,he knows how to set his teammates up as well and his assist numbers will go up when melo gets back, he really does resemble a steve nash.

But this is just MY OPINION and this question really depends on your preference. I like pure points obviously because they have the hardest job on they have to control the temp, make sure the right players are in their spots, makes sure the ball is moving, tell guys now, set guys that couldn't get their own shot up, and last but not least have to make sure the team is communicating on defense. But a lot of that stuff goes un-notice.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Paul and Lin are the only pure point guards. Guards that set the offense up, get their teammates great looks, and can control the game tempo. Westbrook and Rose are point guards by position but look for their shots than set up an offense or are capable of getting their teammates great looks. Rose before he was injured lowered his shot attempts and his assist went up. Rose is on his way but I consider Paul and Lin pure points. Lin gets points but they are never forced or bad shots,he knows how to set his teammates up as well and his assist numbers will go up when melo gets back, he really does resemble a steve nash.

But this is just MY OPINION and this question really depends on your preference. I like pure points obviously because they have the hardest job on they have to control the temp, make sure the right players are in their spots, makes sure the ball is moving, tell guys now, set guys that couldn't get their own shot up, and last but not least have to make sure the team is communicating on defense. But a lot of that stuff goes un-notice.

Personally I think Lin forces it just as much as Westbrook and Rose. Not saying either of the three FORCE it, just saying I think they are more scoring guards that can pass. Jeremy Lin is a scoring point guard in my opinion, passing point guards dont get those turnover numbers as much as he does.

The difference is that hes nowhere near the conversation of being in their class. They have done it for years, he has done it for 5 games.

I like him a lot, but this discussion is getting stupid when there is a question that asks who's better between Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook and Jeremy Lin...

[rudawaknchi2nev]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Personally I think Lin forces it just as much as Westbrook and Rose. Not saying either of the three FORCE it, just saying I think they are more scoring guards that can pass. Jeremy Lin is a scoring point guard in my opinion, passing point guards dont get those turnover numbers as much as he does.

The difference is that hes nowhere near the conversation of being in their class. They have done it for years, he has done it for 5 games.

I like him a lot, but this discussion is getting stupid when there is a question that asks who's better between Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook and Jeremy Lin...

And that's why the post for who's better case in point my pic was rose. I'm just curious where people heads were regarding that subject. This is kinda like the Tim Tobow of the nba lol. I love the discussion it's funny to me don't get mad bro just join in the topic.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Jeremy Lin

And that's why the post for who's better case in point my pic was rose. I'm just curious where people heads were regarding that subject. This is kinda like the Tim Tobow of the nba lol. I love the discussion it's funny to me don't get mad bro just join in the topic.

Im not mad at all, I just think that if theres about to be a Jeremy Lin discussion it should be in a basketball talk forum.

This thread has nothing to do with NBA 2K at all at this point, its just a bunch of people talking crazy.

[jersez]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Personally I think Lin forces it just as much as Westbrook and Rose. Not saying either of the three FORCE it, just saying I think they are more scoring guards that can pass. Jeremy Lin is a scoring point guard in my opinion, passing point guards dont get those turnover numbers as much as he does.

The difference is that hes nowhere near the conversation of being in their class. They have done it for years, he has done it for 5 games.

I like him a lot, but this discussion is getting stupid when there is a question that asks who's better between Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook and Jeremy Lin...

I agree with the 5 games. I personally think fatigue will catch up with him and that he will have bad game eventually, that's basketball not hating that's basketball. I said that I think Lin is a pure point, yes he can score they all can. But out of that list only chris and Lin know how to dictate the tempo, get their teammates open looks consistently and knows who and when to pass it. There are so many other things that a great point guard does and it goes unnoticed, you pointed to their shot attempts but I also said that Lin does more than shoot. He has to force shots because he's still learning the nba game, but Westbrook on the other hands has been in the league for a while and still forces bad shots.

The difference between the three point guards and Westbrook is that he has the best scorer in the league but yet he will take more shots than him. He still has a terrible assist to turnover ratio and he just does whatever the hell he wants excuse the language. Westbrook isn't a pure pg imo but he has the potential to be better than the everyone on that list besides D.rose.

[bedwardsroy19]

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I agree with the 5 games. I personally think fatigue will catch up with him and that he will have bad game eventually, that's basketball not hating that's basketball. I said that I think Lin is a pure point, yes he can score they all can. But out of that list only chris and Lin know how to dictate the tempo, get their teammates open looks consistently and knows who and when to pass it. There are so many other things that a great point guard does and it goes unnoticed, you pointed to their shot attempts but I also said that Lin does more than shoot. He has to force shots because he's still learning the nba game, but Westbrook on the other hands has been in the league for a while and still forces bad shots.

The difference between the three point guards and Westbrook is that he has the best scorer in the league but yet he will take more shots than him. He still has a terrible assist to turnover ratio and he just does whatever the hell he wants excuse the language. Westbrook isn't a pure pg imo but he has the potential to be better than the everyone on that list besides D.rose.

I don't get the argument at all to be honest man.

Lin came into the league not even sure what position he would play. Just seems crazy because he has had a few games with some good assist numbers he's a true point guard? Look up any scouting report on him. Some actually said he is a SF in a 6'4'' body. Not to mention in his starts Lin has averaged more to's per game than Westbrook who leads the league in to's per game to put it in perspective. To me, a true point guard doesn't turn it over as much as he does and defers to teammates more often that trying to create himself.

Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, Ricky Rubio are all true point guards just to name a few. The new kind of point guard that we have been seeing is Westbrook, Rose, Lin, Irving, Wall. Derrick Rose still averages 8 assists a game.

In all honesty, I think any point guard in the first group would be a much better fit for D'Antoni and the Knicks than any of the second group.

Im done with this discussion though, there's no point of having it. No Knicks fan in the world could convince me Jeremy Lin is a true pass first point guard

[bfrombleacher]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I don't get the argument at all to be honest man.

Lin came into the league not even sure what position he would play. Just seems crazy because he has had a few games with some good assist numbers he's a true point guard? Look up any scouting report on him. Some actually said he is a SF in a 6'4'' body. Not to mention in his starts Lin has averaged more to's per game than Westbrook who leads the league in to's per game to put it in perspective. To me, a true point guard doesn't turn it over as much as he does and defers to teammates more often that trying to create himself.

Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, Ricky Rubio are all true point guards just to name a few. The new kind of point guard that we have been seeing is Westbrook, Rose, Lin, Irving, Wall. Derrick Rose still averages 8 assists a game.

In all honesty, I think any point guard in the first group would be a much better fit for D'Antoni and the Knicks than any of the second group.

Im done with this discussion though, there's no point of having it. No Knicks fan in the world could convince me Jeremy Lin is a true pass first point guard

Not a Knick fan but if you're going to be hard on him because of his turnovers, I think he's playing more than 40 a game. If he gets used to the pace of the NBA and gets into the elite shape he needs to be in, I think they'll be toned down.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Not a Knick fan but if you're going to be hard on him because of his turnovers, I think he's playing more than 40 a game. If he gets used to the pace of the NBA and gets into the elite shape he needs to be in, I think they'll be toned down.

You clearly didn't read my entire post, or understand what my point was. Im not being hard on him. I just said he's more of a scoring point guard than a passing point guard. Thats not being hard on him thats the truth.

Nobody said one is better or worse than the other. Nearly every top PG in the league is a scoring PG right now

[jersez]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I don't get the argument at all to be honest man.

Lin came into the league not even sure what position he would play. Just seems crazy because he has had a few games with some good assist numbers he's a true point guard? Look up any scouting report on him. Some actually said he is a SF in a 6'4'' body. Not to mention in his starts Lin has averaged more to's per game than Westbrook who leads the league in to's per game to put it in perspective. To me, a true point guard doesn't turn it over as much as he does and defers to teammates more often that trying to create himself.

Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Jose Calderon, Kyle Lowry, Ricky Rubio are all true point guards just to name a few. The new kind of point guard that we have been seeing is Westbrook, Rose, Lin, Irving, Wall. Derrick Rose still averages 8 assists a game.

In all honesty, I think any point guard in the first group would be a much better fit for D'Antoni and the Knicks than any of the second group.

Im done with this discussion though, there's no point of having it. No Knicks fan in the world could convince me Jeremy Lin is a true pass first point guard

I hate the knicks and I said out of that group of choices Lin resembles a pg more than westbrook. But to be honest you sound really bias, but you are forgetting that Lin is just now seeing real playing time, and to me he is considered a rookie imo just like Blake from last year. It's one thing to watch the game and to be in it. But westbrook again being in the league for what three or four years? And still averaging around 4 turnovers, I think this year he is averaging 4.3. Yes taking care of the ball is one of the most important task for any player. But Lin has very little NBA experience it's expected for "rookies" to have a lot of turnovers,as I said before, westbrook has played more games than lin including playoffs. Russell has the best scorer in the league Lin for the four games had Fields, Chandler and Jefferies to pass to, he had to be aggressive two totally different situations. I'm not expecting you to reply since your done but I just had to add my two cents. Also he went undrafted and cut by two teams I wouldn't really listen to scouting reports, because they sure as heck not explaining why he dropped thirty-eight on the Lakers. Steve nash dropped 48 so I guess you will have to take him off the pass first list. Every game is different and some players have different situations Lin has to score. But his assist will go up when melo returns.

[ZB9]

Re: Jeremy Lin

so what is Lin's 2k rating now?

[XenoZograscope]

Re: Jeremy Lin

so what is Lin's 2k rating now?

We shall all see very soon.

[Steve_OS]

Re: Jeremy Lin

so what is Lin's 2k rating now?

69.

New rosters is up. Getting video.

[Nukleopatra]

Re: Jeremy Lin

and



He's shown the ability to run a pick and roll and finish at the rim. That's about it.

Keep on , homie.

6-0, 'homie.'

He's better than every PG on my list.

[nowitsourtime]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I hope you guys realize that the raptors don't play the greatest defense

Don't get me wrong. I am wholeheartedly rooting for him to succeed, but we need to see him play against guys like CP3 and Rondo (elite defenders at the PG position) and see if he does well before we crown this kid better than almost everyone in the league...

[philpab]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Personally I think Lin forces it just as much as Westbrook and Rose. Not saying either of the three FORCE it, just saying I think they are more scoring guards that can pass. Jeremy Lin is a scoring point guard in my opinion, passing point guards dont get those turnover numbers as much as he does.

The difference is that hes nowhere near the conversation of being in their class. They have done it for years, he has done it for 5 games.

I like him a lot, but this discussion is getting stupid when there is a question that asks who's better between Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook and Jeremy Lin...

i usually follow your roster update and downloaded it if you have one. so far what i've downloaded is OS#4. i'm waiting for the OS#5 and see how you rate Lin. May be i can ask you directly now, how do you rate Lin at present? 2k gave him a rate of 69, how about you?