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  • RedmanR
    MVP
    • Aug 2003
    • 2120

    #301
    Re: Jeremy Lin

    Originally posted by Super Glock
    If 26 points, 5 assist and 4 steals is playing to his weakness then I would have loved to see him play at his best tonight, lol. Now he did have 9 TO so that was not good.
    Those 9 turnovers were crucial considering Lin tried to do too much in attack mode, win the game himself it seemed instead of taking what the defense gave him and moved the ball around. A couple of other guys could have chipped in more and possibly a win if this was the case.

    He shouldn't be rated over a 75 but. . . that's my opinion. We'll see how all this unfolds in the coming days, weeks once Carmelo returns. If Lin can find a way to average so double-double night in night out that'll be great.
    Where they DO that? ? ?

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    • truegame2
      Rookie
      • Jan 2012
      • 12

      #302
      Re: Jeremy Lin

      Originally posted by Pitfighter87
      Wow....J.Lin has been awesome since bein thrown into the startin lineup you cant deny that.But some of the people on here and in the sports media world **cough ESPN cough** are takin this a bit to far to quick.He has been great but he has also turned the ball over quite a bit.I think he has the highest TO avg in the game right now.I think thatll improve but at the same time teams are gonna start bein more aware of him.He also plays in Dantonis system that will inflate PG's stats.Remember how good Raymond felton was doin last year for the Knicks before the trade?ANd we all know how Nash did he got two MVPs workin in that system.

      But again you cant deny the kid can ball and belongs in the league but comparin him to Magic and so on is just CRAZY!! He's a huge breath of fresh air to the NYK that haven been missin a solid PG that can run the pick and roll,get his own and gets other involved.This lets Iman play his defensive stopper role and doesnt have to worry about running the offense.J.Lin is what they need but i dont think we can truely evaluate his talents until around April or May.If he's still doin this and the Knicks are still in the playoff hunt then im in on LIN.But for now lets stepback watch how it unfolds and not all be prisoners of the moment.

      As far as his 2k rating its fine.Ive had this argument a million times with people the rating outside the name means nothin in 2k.Youve got guys like kyle Korver with a 63 rating but can bang threes better then anyone on the game. Joe Pryzbella is like a 61 but his post D is top notch.They could raise Lins 3pt rating a bit but everthing else is fine from what i see.A 70 or 71 overall is perfect for him.
      They have him way overrated online. I understand he's playing well, but if that's the case Anthony shouldn't be shooting lights out. Lin should have worse AST/TO ratio. He's even faster than Chris Paul now in the lane. The online mods need to tone him and the knicks down a bit. Why is Blake Griffin still slow and unable to hit a jump shot? this needs to be addressed the knicks are overrated!

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      • Steven123
        Pro
        • Feb 2007
        • 761

        #303
        Re: Jeremy Lin

        I got him at 72 overall, I think its perfect for him. Raised all the essential stats - pass, layup, boost some shooting, offensive & defensive awareness and on ball defense.

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        • Nukleopatra
          Banned
          • Oct 2009
          • 381

          #304
          Re: Jeremy Lin

          Originally posted by Kid FSU
          He should be 85 at least 87 at most. He is playing too well for you to say he shouldn't be.
          Agreed.



          I have him at 80 right now, but after the performance against Dallas, I may up him yet again.

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          • truegame2
            Rookie
            • Jan 2012
            • 12

            #305
            Re: Jeremy Lin

            Originally posted by Nukleopatra
            Agreed.



            I have him at 80 right now, but after the performance against Dallas, I may up him yet again.
            what about the 9 turnovers only one game ago against the weaker Hornets? He hasn't won anything or been consistent enough to warrant a 80 rating. he should be turnover prone with a good enough game to do damage at pg.

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            • Nukleopatra
              Banned
              • Oct 2009
              • 381

              #306
              Re: Jeremy Lin

              Originally posted by truegame2
              what about the 9 turnovers only one game ago against the weaker Hornets? He hasn't won anything or been consistent enough to warrant a 80 rating. he should be turnover prone with a good enough game to do damage at pg.
              Lin does has an issue with turnovers, but so does John Wall - has since he came into the league, and Wall doesn't seem to drop below 80.

              I think Wall is about 82, I'm not certain, but that's where I'll probably put Lin, because unlike John Wall, Jeremy Lin makes the players around him better.

              82 overall will be about right, IMO.

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              • RedmanR
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 2120

                #307
                Re: Jeremy Lin

                Dude racked-up almost 46 minutes in the win against Dallas. . . craZy
                Where they DO that? ? ?

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                • WarriorPrince
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 139

                  #308
                  Re: Jeremy Lin

                  Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                  Lin does has an issue with turnovers, but so does John Wall - has since he came into the league, and Wall doesn't seem to drop below 80.

                  I think Wall is about 82, I'm not certain, but that's where I'll probably put Lin, because unlike John Wall, Jeremy Lin makes the players around him better.

                  82 overall will be about right, IMO.
                  The issue that Wall has with turnovers is no where near the caliber of the issue Lin has with them. Wall is one of the fastest players in the league, and he is a much better athlete than Lin. Wall is also a better ball handler.

                  *In Lin's 8 starts, he has had 6 or more turnovers in 6 of them. He has the most turnovers, by far, in his first 8 starts. Lin is good, but he is no John Wall.

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                  • sword1986
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1041

                    #309
                    Re: Jeremy Lin

                    Could Lin's turnovers be caused by the system Mike D'Antoni has for the Knicks?

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                    • Drewski
                      Basketball Reasons
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 3783

                      #310
                      Originally posted by sword1986
                      Could Lin's turnovers be caused by the system Mike D'Antoni has for the Knicks?
                      NO

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                      • Pitfighter87
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 803

                        #311
                        Re: Jeremy Lin

                        Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                        Lin does has an issue with turnovers, but so does John Wall - has since he came into the league, and Wall doesn't seem to drop below 80.

                        I think Wall is about 82, I'm not certain, but that's where I'll probably put Lin, because unlike John Wall, Jeremy Lin makes the players around him better.

                        82 overall will be about right, IMO.
                        John Wall is an 80 somethin because he defends his butt off.Jeremy isnt the defender John is.John is rated higher because his all around skill set is better then J.Lins.QUIT LOOKIN AT THE OVERALL.

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                        • Pitfighter87
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 803

                          #312
                          Re: Jeremy Lin

                          Originally posted by bedwardsroy19
                          85 at least?

                          Sarcasm?
                          Man I hope so...

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                          • Fly3
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1180

                            #313
                            Re: Jeremy Lin

                            He's set the record for consecutive games with 6+ turnovers, and 2k gave him 92 offensive awareness.

                            Makes sense.

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                            • truegame2
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 12

                              #314
                              Re: Jeremy Lin

                              Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                              Lin does has an issue with turnovers, but so does John Wall - has since he came into the league, and Wall doesn't seem to drop below 80.

                              I think Wall is about 82, I'm not certain, but that's where I'll probably put Lin, because unlike John Wall, Jeremy Lin makes the players around him better.

                              82 overall will be about right, IMO.

                              Wall's turnovers are a result of forcing the issue on a weak team. also, Lin hasn't proven he can do it over the course of a NBA season to be rated higher than a 72. He should be turnover prone with a streaky shot. In other words, you have to play with a good basketball IQ to not make him turn it over. The lead pass to Chandler is ridiculous it works every time for player that has so many turnovers and his speed needs to be down a bit. If he proves to be great over a longer period the rating should be raised. Right now it's to premature.IMO

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                              • CueDub
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 243

                                #315
                                Re: Jeremy Lin

                                Originally posted by WarriorPrince
                                The issue that Wall has with turnovers is no where near the caliber of the issue Lin has with them. Wall is one of the fastest players in the league, and he is a much better athlete than Lin. Wall is also a better ball handler.

                                *In Lin's 8 starts, he has had 6 or more turnovers in 6 of them. He has the most turnovers, by far, in his first 8 starts. Lin is good, but he is no John Wall.
                                John Wall is no Jeremy Lin! Lin's turnover numbers are high because he has the ball on every possession with the Knicks running nothing but pick and rolls all game long. He is the only Knicks player who can create his own shot until Melo returns. He played like 46 minutes against Dallas. 7 turnovers, 1 every 6 minutes isn't all that bad considering how much time he has ball dribbling around and stuff.

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