Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

[authentic]

Nobody said he is a better player than Rose, but HE IS a better pure point guard BY FAR.

Rose doesn't even have a quarter of Ricky's passing ability , decision making , point guard skills an ability to run a team.

You do not know basketball. That is a joke.

[kingg d]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

You do not know basketball. That is a joke.

You are the one who don't know basketball, putting Rose PG abilities right next to Rubio's is an insult to basketball.

Rose is a phenomenal player, a freaking athlete and a great scorer, but he isn't a pure point guard and not even close to Rubio here

Now just sit back and watch how Rubio shuts your mouth in the next years to come, when he leads the league in assists by far.

[authentic]

When he has a MVP award and leads his team to the playoffs come talk to me. It's a pure joke to compare Ricky Rubio to Rose. Rose will average more assists and points. What is a pure point guard? A guy who can't shoot? A guy who average 3.4 points per game off the bench in Europe? Get real, get some basketball IQ.

[authentic]

Also, it's about time this thread gets locked up. Enough of this nonsense.

[kingg d]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

When he has a MVP award and leads his team to the playoffs come talk to me. It's a pure joke to compare Ricky Rubio to Rose. Rose will average more assists and points. What is a pure point guard? A guy who can't shoot? A guy who average 3.4 points per game off the bench in Europe? Get real, get some basketball IQ.

So now being an MVP and leading the team to the playoffs equals to being a better point guard than someone? By your smart logic then I guess Shaq is a better point guard than for example Rajon Rondo?

And you said Rose (a guy who averages 6 assists in 40 minutes) will average more assists than Ricky? just LOL

And being a pure point guard has NOTHING to do with shooting ability, use your common sense and stop saying such a dumb things

[JaySmooov]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Nobody said he is a better player than Rose, but HE IS a better pure point guard BY FAR.

Rose doesn't even have a quarter of Ricky's passing ability , decision making , point guard skills an ability to run a team.

Derrick Rose APG: 8.6
Ricky Rubio APR: 7.3

I'm done...with that part of my argument.

But, don't even mention Ricky Rubio in the same thought process as Derrick Rose. Yes, Rubio can pass, but that's about the only thing he has right now, other than moderate quickness and ball handling. AND, he plays ZERO defense.

Let Derrick play Rubio and we'll see who runs a team better.

And this isn't even bias. I just have the privilege of watching Rose night in, night out, so I see him skills on a nightly basis, rather than jumping on the bandwagon just because LeBron endorsed his passing skills.

[seanbarkley]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

You do not know basketball. That is a joke.

Excuse me, maybe it's because Rubio has been a pass first pg all his life and Rose a shoot 1st pg, but Rubio passing abilities are better than Rose's. Nobody here is saying that Rubio is a best player (that'd be a nonsense), because Rose is in a level that Rubio can only dream of; but nowadays Rose's passing is average. If you can't see that then you are the one who don't know anything about basketball friend.

[kingg d]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me, maybe it's because Rubio has been a pass first pg all his life and Rose a shoot 1st pg, but Rubio passing abilities are better than Rose's. Nobody here is saying that Rubio is a best player (that'd be a nonsense), because Rose is in a level that Rubio can only dream of; but nowadays Rose's passing is average. If you can't see that then you are the one who don't know anything about basketball friend.

Finally someone gets it

[seanbarkley]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Derrick Rose APG: 8.6
Ricky Rubio APR: 7.3

I'm done...with that part of my argument.

But, don't even mention Ricky Rubio in the same thought process as Derrick Rose. Yes, Rubio can pass, but that's about the only thing he has right now, other than moderate quickness and ball handling. AND, he plays ZERO defense.

Let Derrick play Rubio and we'll see who runs a team better.

And this isn't even bias. I just have the privilege of watching Rose night in, night out, so I see him skills on a nightly basis, rather than jumping on the bandwagon just because LeBron endorsed his passing skills.

Derrick Rose MPG: 35
Ricky Rubio MPG: 27

Stat not always tell the truth, but maybe this has something to do with your point.

[JaySmooov]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

So now being an MVP and leading the team to the playoffs equals to being a better point guard than someone? By your smart logic then I guess Shaq is a better point guard than for example Rajon Rondo?

And you said Rose (a guy who averages 6 assists in 40 minutes) will average more assists than Ricky? just LOL

And being a pure point guard has NOTHING to do with shooting ability, use your common sense and stop saying such a dumb things

Derrick Rose is averaging 9.9 assists per 40 minutes, to Rubio's 10.5. Last year, he averaged 8.2 assists per 40, to Rubio's 7.6 in Spain. Rubio isn't much of a better passer than Rose, according to your logic. Where you're getting 6 assists per 40, I don't know. Maybe his first two years in the league?

[JaySmooov]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me, maybe it's because Rubio has been a pass first pg all his life and Rose a shoot 1st pg, but Rubio passing abilities are better than Rose's. Nobody here is saying that Rubio is a best player (that'd be a nonsense), because Rose is in a level that Rubio can only dream of; but nowadays Rose's passing is average. If you can't see that then you are the one who don't know anything about basketball friend.

Explain how Rose's passing is average. Because Rubio isn't much better of a passer than Rose. Rubio may have better court vision than Rose, but that's because they are two different players.

Rubio is a passer first, basically because he has no offensive game to worth noting. Derrick Rose was a scoring guard, and he's just coming into his own, passing wise.

In all actuality, it's not even sort of fair to compare their passing ability because Rubio's been passing all his life. Dudes only averaged 10+points twice in his professional career in Spain.

[seanbarkley]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Derrick Rose is averaging 9.9 assists per 40 minutes, to Rubio's 10.5. Last year, he averaged 8.2 assists per 40, to Rubio's 7.6 in Spain. Rubio isn't much of a better passer than Rose, according to your logic. Where you're getting 6 assists per 40, I don't know. Maybe his first two years in the league?

I'm from Spain and I don't like Rubio, so I can be Kind of objective. When he played in FC Barcelona the last couple of years the team played a really slow pace where couldn't show his abilities at all, so T'Wolves game style is much better for him.
Call me crazy, but IMO is not the same an assist given by Nash that one given by Rose (or LeBron): when you are a double teamed guy and all you have to do is pass to the free guy on the corner is much easier...

[kingg d]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

Derrick Rose is averaging 9.9 assists per 40 minutes, to Rubio's 10.5. Last year, he averaged 8.2 assists per 40, to Rubio's 7.6 in Spain. Rubio isn't much of a better passer than Rose, according to your logic. Where you're getting 6 assists per 40, I don't know. Maybe his first two years in the league?

So you are basically comparing a nba player assists to an euro player? You don't watch so many euro basketball right? Because you would know that in euro leagues it's way harder to get your pass counted as an assist , defenses are more collapsed , the tempo is way slower etc

Rose averaged 6.6 assists in 37 min his first 3 years, I wouldn't call that great, not even good. But I'm done talking with fanboys like you, who can't even admit the obvious. I guess you are right and the rest of the world, scouts , media experts and even nba players who are playing against him and comparing him to Steve Nas are wrong

So keep living in your bubble, Rose is a better passer and has better court vision than Ricky and Nash together. Are you happy now?

[Champion8877]

Re: Rubioooo!!!!!!!!!

shouldnt this conversation be taken to the pro basketball sub forum, not the 2k sub forum? this stopped being about 2k a LONG time ago. i can't believe this hasnt been locked yet...

[authentic]

I'm from Spain and I don't like Rubio, so I can be Kind of objective. When he played in FC Barcelona the last couple of years the team played a really slow pace where couldn't show his abilities at all, so T'Wolves game style is much better for him.
Call me crazy, but IMO is not the same an assist given by Nash that one given by Rose (or LeBron): when you are a double teamed guy and all you have to do is pass to the free guy on the corner is much easier...

If you have played any basketball you'd know it's not easy getting doubled team and trying to find the open man. That's what's funny. You can play a sports video game and think you know basketball. Ask Rubio how the Olympics went. Ask him about Spain. If you want to talk about leading a team, ask Rose. The guy has won on all levels during his career. This quote wasn't all to you. It's mainly to the guy saying Rose is a bad passer. I never thought I'd see the day when someone compared rubio to rose. No wonder why high school sports are so messed up. Some kids/adults are just odd.