Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[ashantewarrier]

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You mean the Brook Lopez who they won't resign? The same one where they have to renounce his rights in order to sign Howard?

That's only if they know that they can get Dwight Howard to Brooklyn. If not, they will keep Lopez....he is still on his rookie contract and would be a restricted free agent!. If Howard does not come to Brooklyn, Lopez remains a Net.

[qpc123]

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So who's everyone rolling with/rooting for so far with these 30 team seasons??

I've got my Bobcats in prime position for a top 3 pick at 9-31 lol. Come on Anthony Davis!!

I'm running with the Thunder association and doing a 'dynasty' page here on OS.
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...sociation.html

So far I'm 3-4 which is disappointing but their schedule is kinda brutal to start the season. 4 games in the first 5 days and the Lakers, Mavs, Knicks, and Bulls all on the road. I beat L.A. in the opener and lost the other three, although I should beat Dallas and Knicks and fell apart down the stretch.

[Dpauley23]

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What does everyone think of this trade between Warriors and Hornets:

Warriors get: Emeka Ofakor and Jason Smith

Hornets get: Andris Biedrins, Ekpe Udoh, and 2013 1st rounder lottery protected

[Dpauley23]

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That's only if they know that they can get Dwight Howard to Brooklyn. If not, they will keep Lopez....he is still on his rookie contract and would be a restricted free agent!. If Howard does not come to Brooklyn, Lopez remains a Net.

The cap hold is too big for the Nets though. So they would have to release his rights as they wouldn't know if they could sign Howard before

[SwaggerCoach]

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Warriors! 6-7 start so far...Ellis is a beast for me! Hoping to make playoffs this season at least. Good luck with your Bobcats, that would be tough lol. Have you played all 40gms?

Nah, don't have that kind of patience with this pathetic roster lol.

I'm going to end up playing probably about 30% of the games in year one...as my team gets more competitive in the future, I'll play more games. I look at this first season as a "practice" season for me to get used to the roster and work on my skills. I didn't just want to simulate the whole thing because I wanted to put myself as much in the Bobcats shoes as I could tolerate on the court...I must be sick in the head or something lol

[Damien7]

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I'm playing with the LA Clippers. I personnaly like almost every player of my roster ( with some adjustments : traded Cook, Bledsoe and Jones for Jerebko, signed Joey Dorsey and Leon Powe, oh and also terrico white because of Foye's injury ), but as I can't managed to go over 50% of win, I'm thinking about making a big 3 team trade.

Thinking about all the speculation and rumors about Pacers willing to let Granger leave in order to make space for George, Warriors willing to let Ellis go and about Pacers' interest for Ellis... I arrived to that idea :

Pacers get: Monta Ellis and Travis Leslie.
Warriors get: Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes, Joey Dorsey and two 2nd round picks ( this way, Warriors are going into rebuilding mode with Curry as their franchise player, Gomes and Dorsey have high potential and Dorsey is a great addition for rebounding which is not high for the current warriors, Mo's position could be switched to PA so he won't interfere with Curry's minutes ).
Clippers get: Danny Granger ( Butler would start at A, Granger at PA and Billups'd become the sixth man )

This trade financially works since I extended Mo Williams with a 4 year 11M$ deal.

What you guys think ? Should I do this trade or shouldn't I and continue with my actual Clips' roster and try to improve them through draft and FA ?

[BasedTaylor]

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I'm playing with the LA Clippers. I personnaly like almost every player of my roster ( with some adjustments : traded Cook, Bledsoe and Jones for Jerebko, signed Joey Dorsey and Leon Powe, oh and also terrico white because of Foye's injury ), but as I can't managed to go over 50% of win, I'm thinking about making a big 3 team trade.

Thinking about all the speculation and rumors about Pacers willing to let Granger leave in order to make space for George, Warriors willing to let Ellis go and about Pacers' interest for Ellis... I arrived to that idea :

Pacers get: Monta Ellis and Travis Leslie.
Warriors get: Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes, Joey Dorsey and two 2nd round picks ( this way, Warriors are going into rebuilding mode with Curry as their franchise player, Gomes and Dorsey have high potential and Dorsey is a great addition for rebounding which is not high for the current warriors, Mo's position could be switched to PA so he won't interfere with Curry's minutes ).
Clippers get: Danny Granger ( Butler would start at A, Granger at PA and Billups'd become the sixth man )

This trade financially works since I extended Mo Williams with a 4 year 11M$ deal.

What you guys think ? Should I do this trade or shouldn't I and continue with my actual Clips' roster and try to improve them through draft and FA ?

Do you hate the Warriors? lol, jk but they're getting robbed in that trade.

[Damien7]

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Do you hate the Warriors? lol, jk but they're getting robbed in that trade.

Well, I'm not fan of the Warriors but that's not the point.
I was also thinking about adding Randy Foye to the Warriors ( but this would be a heartbreak as I really like the guy ^^ ) and maybe replace the two 2nd round picks by 2013 1st round pick from clippers and 2012 2nd round pick from pistons.

Do you still think they'd get roobed that way ?

[qpc123]

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I'm playing with the LA Clippers. I personnaly like almost every player of my roster ( with some adjustments : traded Cook, Bledsoe and Jones for Jerebko, signed Joey Dorsey and Leon Powe, oh and also terrico white because of Foye's injury ), but as I can't managed to go over 50% of win, I'm thinking about making a big 3 team trade.

Thinking about all the speculation and rumors about Pacers willing to let Granger leave in order to make space for George, Warriors willing to let Ellis go and about Pacers' interest for Ellis... I arrived to that idea :

Pacers get: Monta Ellis and Travis Leslie.
Warriors get: Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes, Joey Dorsey and two 2nd round picks ( this way, Warriors are going into rebuilding mode with Curry as their franchise player, Gomes and Dorsey have high potential and Dorsey is a great addition for rebounding which is not high for the current warriors, Mo's position could be switched to PA so he won't interfere with Curry's minutes ).
Clippers get: Danny Granger ( Butler would start at A, Granger at PA and Billups'd become the sixth man )

This trade financially works since I extended Mo Williams with a 4 year 11M$ deal.

What you guys think ? Should I do this trade or shouldn't I and continue with my actual Clips' roster and try to improve them through draft and FA ?

Swap Butler for Gomes and that seems good and fair to me.

[Damien7]

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Swap Butler for Gomes and that seems good and fair to me.

No way I'm getting rid of Butler, he's my leading scorer ! The only starting lineup player I would consider trading is Billups as I can't manage to catch his shot timing and as he would end up on the bench with Granger in, but letting Billups go would be very unrealistic as the Clippers just claimed him and as he has been so angry after being treated like **** by the Knicks, he would probably kill someone if he was traded by the Clippers before next year <label for="rb_iconid_10"></label>

Plus, IMO there's no interest for the Pacers to get Butler as they would let Granger go only to make George their starting PA. Butler would interfere with George's minutes thus, while Gomes would be a good backup for George.

[DarthRambo]

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I'm playing with the LA Clippers. I personnaly like almost every player of my roster ( with some adjustments : traded Cook, Bledsoe and Jones for Jerebko, signed Joey Dorsey and Leon Powe, oh and also terrico white because of Foye's injury ), but as I can't managed to go over 50% of win, I'm thinking about making a big 3 team trade.

Thinking about all the speculation and rumors about Pacers willing to let Granger leave in order to make space for George, Warriors willing to let Ellis go and about Pacers' interest for Ellis... I arrived to that idea :

Pacers get: Monta Ellis and Travis Leslie.
Warriors get: Mo Williams, Ryan Gomes, Joey Dorsey and two 2nd round picks ( this way, Warriors are going into rebuilding mode with Curry as their franchise player, Gomes and Dorsey have high potential and Dorsey is a great addition for rebounding which is not high for the current warriors, Mo's position could be switched to PA so he won't interfere with Curry's minutes ).
Clippers get: Danny Granger ( Butler would start at A, Granger at PA and Billups'd become the sixth man )

This trade financially works since I extended Mo Williams with a 4 year 11M$ deal.

What you guys think ? Should I do this trade or shouldn't I and continue with my actual Clips' roster and try to improve them through draft and FA ?

Warriors are getting screwed! They give up their best player in Monta Ellis and basically get just two 2nd rd picks?!?

[qpc123]

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No way I'm getting rid of Butler, he's my leading scorer ! The only starting lineup player I would consider trading is Billups as I can't manage to catch his shot timing and as he would end up on the bench with Granger in, but letting Billups go would be very unrealistic as the Clippers just claimed him and as he has been so angry after being treated like **** by the Knicks, he would probably kill someone if he was traded by the Clippers before next year <label for="rb_iconid_10"></label>

Plus, IMO there's no interest for the Pacers to get Butler as they would let Granger go only to make George their starting PA. Butler would interfere with George's minutes thus, while Gomes would be a good backup for George.

In that trade you proposed if you had Gomes going to the Warriors, and Butler would have replaced him in my thinking, so it wouldn't be an issue for the Pacers. Indiana could roll out a line-up of Collison, Ellis, George, West and Hibbert. Warriors would have Curry, Klay Thompson or Dorrell Wright, Butler, Lee, Biedrins.

Either way the Warriors should get at least one first round pick for giving up Ellis.

[Damien7]

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In that trade you proposed if you had Gomes going to the Warriors, and Butler would have replaced him in my thinking.

You are right, I missed something, I was tired .

Anyway, I can't let Butler leave.

So what about:
Pacers get: Ellis and Leslie
Clippers get: Granger ( + McGuire )
Warriors get: Mo Williams, Foye, Gomes, Dorsey + my 2013 1st round pick + two 2012 2nd round picks ( one from me, one from the Pacers which I guess could give one as they'd receive an all star caliber player and a high potential prospect ).

In this scenario, the warriors need to give another player so they have enough space in their roster for my 4 players. Maybe Dominic McGuire ?

[sfx]

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Mini rant but there's a nugget and the end I'd like some feedback on.

I'm fascinated by some people's obsession with reality. I'm not saying it's wrong, different strokes for different folks. IMO, this is fantasy land. I don't really care that Darryl Morey has said that Kyle Lowry is untradable. He's not the GM of the virtual Rockets. I/we am/are. I'm trying to approach this 30 team control with an open mind towards every team.

That being said, every team has to have a different strategy based on current roster construction, salaray cap considerations, and free agent tendencies. I'm The last part is what I'm trying to build into my system. If there's a place for reality, it needs to be where the GM has no control... what goes on in the mind of the players. Tell me what you think.

I'm trying to figure out a way to assign percentages to different franchises for Free Agency. It's no secret the Lakers have a decided advantage in attracting free agents over the Cavaliers. But how much? Let's say Player X is offered the same amount of money by the Lakers and the Cavs. How much more likely is he to go to the Lakers? 10% 20%. I'm trying to build a modifier list. For example...

All things being equal (money, years)...

Lakers +10%
Heat +10%
Knicks +10%
Celtics +8%
Mavs +5%
Magic+5%
Suns +3%
Warriors -5%
Clippers -5%
Raptors -8%
Cavs -10%
Pistons -10%
Bobcats -10%
etc...

Likewise, since some players have made it known they'd rather play for a winner, we assign addition bumps or penalties according to record. For example,

Top 4 team in conference - +10%
Bottom 4 team in conference -10%

And then, of course there'd be money factors if all things aren't equal. If the Pistons offer someone a stupid big contract (a la Charlie Villanueva that nobody else will offer, that give them a proportional advantage.)

So... an example.

Player X has three suitors... the Lakers, Suns and Warriors, all offering the full MLE. Each team starts as a 33% chance of landing him.

Lakers get a 10% advantage. Making it 43%.
Suns get a 3% - 36%
Warriors are stuck with what's left - 21%. (The negative modifier is if they're up against a neutral team).

Then we look at wins... Lakers finished in top 4... +10%. Warriors in bottom 4... -10%. Final rankings look like this.

Lakers - 53%
Suns - 36%
Warriors - 11%

Go to Random.org. Lakers get 1-53. Suns get 54-89. Warriors get 90-100.

Number comes up 9. Lakers get the FA.

I just whipped percentages out of my arse. Thoughts?

[Jonok]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

So who's everyone rolling with/rooting for so far with these 30 team seasons??

I've got my Bobcats in prime position for a top 3 pick at 9-31 lol. Come on Anthony Davis!!

I'm also using the bobcats I have a little bit better record but should still get a top 10 pick I'll probably pick up a sg in the draft Henderson is getting like 7ppg but maggatte should be drug tested getting 27ppg he must be taking something lol