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  • chinatownpwnage
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #1321
    Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

    Originally posted by MattGarza13
    Does this trade make sense?

    Twolves get

    1st overall pick in the draft.

    Suns get

    8th overall pick in the draft
    First rounder next year
    Anthony Randolph ( 71 overall )
    Wayne Ellington ( 65 overall )

    Heres the way I look at it, the Suns will be getting major depth after this trade is all said and done while the Twolves clear out minutes and have an oppotunity to draft the C they desperatly need in either Drummond or Anthony Davis. Randoplh only got 15 mpg but averaged 7 PPG 5 rpg and 2.6 Offensive rebounds per game shot 50 % from the field and had .5 blocks in those 15. Ellington didn't play a sinlge minute but is young and has an A for outside shooting. The Suns also will get a good prospect this year and could get another next.

    Also who should I draft for the Wolves with the number 1 pick?
    personally i would never trade away the first pick, but a few pointers if you really want to:

    give up wes johnson instead of ellington, maybe wes johnson and derrick williams, and you can't trade consecutive years first rounders so the first rounder would have to the the year after the next draft

    i would do williams, johnson, 8th pick, and year after next 1st

    the reasoning is, the first pick can be a franchise player, while the 8th pick at tops can be all-star, sometimes not even that good, so giving williams gives a high potential and wes johnson is a solid player with some potential. you would also replace Beasley with Derrick Williams if you want

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    • Shibito
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 1987

      #1322
      Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

      Originally posted by MattGarza13
      Does this trade make sense?

      Twolves get

      1st overall pick in the draft.

      Suns get

      8th overall pick in the draft
      First rounder next year
      Anthony Randolph ( 71 overall )
      Wayne Ellington ( 65 overall )

      Heres the way I look at it, the Suns will be getting major depth after this trade is all said and done while the Twolves clear out minutes and have an oppotunity to draft the C they desperatly need in either Drummond or Anthony Davis. Randoplh only got 15 mpg but averaged 7 PPG 5 rpg and 2.6 Offensive rebounds per game shot 50 % from the field and had .5 blocks in those 15. Ellington didn't play a sinlge minute but is young and has an A for outside shooting. The Suns also will get a good prospect this year and could get another next.

      Also who should I draft for the Wolves with the number 1 pick?
      I feel like the Wolve's are giving up too much here.

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      • chinatownpwnage
        Pro
        • Mar 2011
        • 946

        #1323
        Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

        Originally posted by Shibito
        I feel like the Wolve's are giving up too much here.
        good point, but i feel that has to be given for a first pick or no trade at all

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        • BasedTaylor
          Rookie
          • Dec 2011
          • 256

          #1324
          Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

          The Wolves have a starting caliber Center in Pekovic.

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          • Dpauley23
            Rookie
            • Jan 2011
            • 303

            #1325
            Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

            Originally posted by Shibito
            I feel like the Wolve's are giving up too much here.
            The 1st overall pick has so much value though as you have a good chance at getting that superstar player with the pick. Honestly, I think your giving up too little. If you really want the 1st pick you should probably be giving up the 8th pick and Derrick Williams

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            • Shibito
              MVP
              • Jul 2011
              • 1987

              #1326
              Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

              Originally posted by Dpauley23
              The 1st overall pick has so much value though as you have a good chance at getting that superstar player with the pick. Honestly, I think your giving up too little. If you really want the 1st pick you should probably be giving up the 8th pick and Derrick Williams
              To give up 2 straight 1st rounders when 1 is the #8 seems too much. If there was a high probability that the next pick would be late lottery or later, then it would be fair, but with this trade I feel that the Wolve's would likely end up giving up 2 Top 10 picks.

              It also depends on the depth of the drafts in question. If you have 2 very deep drafts with no awesome stand out players, the trade doesn't benefit the wolve's at all. If it has a potential all-star for this year's #1, it may be worth it.

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              • chinatownpwnage
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 946

                #1327
                Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                Originally posted by Shibito
                To give up 2 straight 1st rounders when 1 is the #8 seems too much. If there was a high probability that the next pick would be late lottery or later, then it would be fair, but with this trade I feel that the Wolve's would likely end up giving up 2 Top 10 picks.

                It also depends on the depth of the drafts in question. If you have 2 very deep drafts with no awesome stand out players, the trade doesn't benefit the wolve's at all. If it has a potential all-star for this year's #1, it may be worth it.
                well the 2012 caliber 1st is a franchise possible Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond, plus because you can't trade two consecutive years picks, the next first will be 2014, and if the t'wolves get any better with love, rubio, and their first, the pick will not be very high. also, looking at the 2012 draft, the 8th pick has possibilities that potential dont even come close, so i stand by the trade of at least the 8th pick, 2014 first, and derrick williams. i would even throw in wes johnson

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                • Shibito
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1987

                  #1328
                  Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                  In the 2nd year of an association. Made a trade that I thought worked well for both teams. What do you guys think? Dwight had signed with Indiana after no big market team had cap room and he believed they could make the play offs, however the Pacers are tanking and have little chance to make the play offs so they will be looking to add pieces to their team soon.

                  Los Angeles Clippers receive:
                  C Dwight Howard
                  C Chris Andersen
                  SG Loren Jefferson

                  Indiana Pacers receive:
                  C Deandre Jordan
                  PF Kenyon Martin
                  SF Ryan Gomes
                  2013 1st round pick
                  2014 2nd round pick
                  2015 1st round pick

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                  • chinatownpwnage
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 946

                    #1329
                    Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                    Originally posted by Shibito
                    In the 2nd year of an association. Made a trade that I thought worked well for both teams. What do you guys think? Dwight had signed with Indiana after no big market team had cap room and he believed they could make the play offs, however the Pacers are tanking and have little chance to make the play offs so they will be looking to add pieces to their team soon.

                    Los Angeles Clippers receive:
                    C Dwight Howard
                    C Chris Andersen
                    SG Loren Jefferson

                    Indiana Pacers receive:
                    C Deandre Jordan
                    PF Kenyon Martin
                    SF Ryan Gomes
                    2013 1st round pick
                    2014 2nd round pick
                    2015 1st round pick
                    not sure i like this trade cause the two first are prob after lottery, so those players are hit or miss, just not fair in my eyes

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                    • volstopfan14
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2307

                      #1330
                      Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                      In my association I'm trying to trade Stephen Jackson. Could Chicago be a good fit? They need a scorer off the bench at the SG. Would Watson and Korver for Jackson work? The Bucks just want him out.
                      Tennessee Volunteers
                      Charlotte Hornets

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                      • Shibito
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1987

                        #1331
                        Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                        Originally posted by chinatownpwnage
                        not sure i like this trade cause the two first are prob after lottery, so those players are hit or miss, just not fair in my eyes
                        I could add another future 1st rounder or add a stipulation where the Pacers get an additional 1st round pick if the Clippers make the Western Conference Finals in the next 2 seasons.

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                        • chinatownpwnage
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 946

                          #1332
                          Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                          Originally posted by Shibito
                          I could add another future 1st rounder or add a stipulation where the Pacers get an additional 1st round pick if the Clippers make the Western Conference Finals in the next 2 seasons.
                          hmmm its up to you but i still don't see how its fair cause all of those picks or maybe only one will land in the lotto, you would need to add at least one big name into the trade

                          or you could trade or sign people to build around dwight in Indiana

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                          • Shibito
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1987

                            #1333
                            Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                            Originally posted by chinatownpwnage
                            hmmm its up to you but i still don't see how its fair cause all of those picks or maybe only one will land in the lotto, you would need to add at least one big name into the trade

                            or you could trade or sign people to build around dwight in Indiana
                            I guess I should also add that the two players going to Los Angeles with Dwight are under 60 overall while the Pacers are getting a 76, 70, and 60. Deandre Jordan is also a young player with an "A" in Post Defense and "A-" in Rebounding. IDK, I liked the trade since Indiana was tanking with Dwight anyways. I guess I could just say he was becoming a problem and weighing down the team.

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                            • chinatownpwnage
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 946

                              #1334
                              Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                              Originally posted by Shibito
                              I guess I should also add that the two players going to Los Angeles with Dwight are under 60 overall while the Pacers are getting a 76, 70, and 60. Deandre Jordan is also a young player with an "A" in Post Defense and "A-" in Rebounding. IDK, I liked the trade since Indiana was tanking with Dwight anyways. I guess I could just say he was becoming a problem and weighing down the team.
                              personally the only possible clippers trade is griffin and jordan for Dwight

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                              • Shibito
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1987

                                #1335
                                Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                                Originally posted by chinatownpwnage
                                personally the only possible clippers trade is griffin and jordan for Dwight
                                Actually the whole reason I found a way to bring him to the Clippers was to pair him with Griffin to create possibly the best duo in the post the NBA has ever seen.

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