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  • LD2k
    2K Sports Community Manager
    • Oct 2010
    • 1261

    #436
    Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

    From the Kotaku article:

    But looking closely does reveal some tuning of a highly polished game. "The point is, we have worked our butts off on passing," Jones said. This is not going to go without a fight. Jones said he, Mike Wang and Zach Timmerman started working on NBA 2K13—little things that bothered them, but still, work—the day after NBA 2K12 shipped. It peeved some of their colleagues, he admitted
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    • stillfeelme
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 2405

      #437
      Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

      Passing improvement check
      Layup selection improvement check
      Contact improvement check

      I like what I am hearing

      I guess Beluba can only give us so much info but what about live ball physics up and under success rates and rebounding? I really like when the ball is up for grabs man. I know speed and recovery defense has to be addressed but I am sure it would come via a detailed insight.

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      • gdh5503
        Rookie
        • Sep 2010
        • 16

        #438
        Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

        These guys spend so much money on strategy marketing and development that they forget about gameplay, player models and AI adaptability. It has been 13 years and we still don't have a basketball sim to revolutionize the way we play basketball games. 2k to me still has another level to go and i don't think they will do it this year either.

        To me 2K12 was a downgrade. 2K11 was okay... Better than 2K12, but okay. I still don't see it happening this year either. I don't know what they are waiting for but they haven't wowed me. I mean think about it for a second just really sit back and think about it. Have we seen a basketball sim that has revolutionized the way we play simulation basketball? It has been over 13 years we have spent money to play these so called simulation basketball games.

        I am not talking about the development over the years because I give them credit in the sense that as a game in general they have come pretty far from a graphic standpoint and the things you can do as a user, the moves and stuff you can pull off, but what I am taking about is changing the way we play and the way the AI plays against us. I have not been immersed into a basketball sim yet. Not even 2K has sucked me into that "experience" that they talk about every year. Presentation, gameplay all that is okay but not spectacular the way it is hyped up. I found myself skipping through the Sprint momentum play by play by Doris Burke the halftime report I skip, and the intermissions with other teams that are playing report gets skipped. Even the intros I skipped after a month.

        they are making claims about simulation, gameplay experience, ESPN this, Sprite that, and neither Live or 2K has really showed up. Live especially, these dudes been out the game for two years and their build is below average at this point and they don't have very long to go to launch and I fear for them. look how long its been that we have played these basketball games. Just sit and think about it. What are they waiting for, Next Gen consoles? I hope not because we will be right back here again, all next gen is going to be is graphic enhancement.

        Its been a very long time for these basketball sims and we are still being tickled with gameplay and visuals. Just think about it as a consumer. Does anyone feel cheated but me? Just my opinion either 2K and maybe Live for that matter are holding back for something big for next year because it is not this year and I can guarantee that based on what I have seen so far and we all know they don't have a whole lot of time to scrap and build again before launch or in reality they have reached their CEILING.

        Both games in my opinion need an EXTREME MAKEOVER from player models not just faces, to presentation and commentary adaptability, replays and halftime reports, a real deep and immersive Dynasty mode, deep and immersive Create a player not just my player but create a player in Dynasty mode, Olympic games and teams not in a mode only but also into the deep and immersive Dynasty mode and so on. Its been 13 years?!!??
        Gerald H

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        • jersez
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1892

          #439
          Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

          Originally posted by gdh5503
          These guys spend so much money on strategy marketing and development that they forget about gameplay, player models and AI adaptability. It has been 13 years and we still don't have a basketball sim to revolutionize the way we play basketball games. 2k to me still has another level to go and i don't think they will do it this year either.

          To me 2K12 was a downgrade. 2K11 was okay... Better than 2K12, but okay. I still don't see it happening this year either. I don't know what they are waiting for but they haven't wowed me. I mean think about it for a second just really sit back and think about it. Have we seen a basketball sim that has revolutionized the way we play simulation basketball? It has been over 13 years we have spent money to play these so called simulation basketball games.

          I am not talking about the development over the years because I give them credit in the sense that as a game in general they have come pretty far from a graphic standpoint and the things you can do as a user, the moves and stuff you can pull off, but what I am taking about is changing the way we play and the way the AI plays against us. I have not been immersed into a basketball sim yet. Not even 2K has sucked me into that "experience" that they talk about every year. Presentation, gameplay all that is okay but not spectacular the way it is hyped up. I found myself skipping through the Sprint momentum play by play by Doris Burke the halftime report I skip, and the intermissions with other teams that are playing report gets skipped. Even the intros I skipped after a month.

          they are making claims about simulation, gameplay experience, ESPN this, Sprite that, and neither Live or 2K has really showed up. Live especially, these dudes been out the game for two years and their build is below average at this point and they don't have very long to go to launch and I fear for them. look how long its been that we have played these basketball games. Just sit and think about it. What are they waiting for, Next Gen consoles? I hope not because we will be right back here again, all next gen is going to be is graphic enhancement.

          Its been a very long time for these basketball sims and we are still being tickled with gameplay and visuals. Just think about it as a consumer. Does anyone feel cheated but me? Just my opinion either 2K and maybe Live for that matter are holding back for something big for next year because it is not this year and I can guarantee that based on what I have seen so far and we all know they don't have a whole lot of time to scrap and build again before launch or in reality they have reached their CEILING.

          Both games in my opinion need an EXTREME MAKEOVER from player models not just faces, to presentation and commentary adaptability, replays and halftime reports, a real deep and immersive Dynasty mode, deep and immersive Create a player not just my player but create a player in Dynasty mode, Olympic games and teams not in a mode only but also into the deep and immersive Dynasty mode and so on. Its been 13 years?!!??
          I don't even know where to begin... First of all they don't spend more money on marketing than gameplay. They don't need to rebuild, the commentary is excellent and they haven't reached their ceiling. Simulation is defined as "To have or take on the appearance, form, or sound of; imitate". You said a lot of empty statements, for example the bold'd statement. What are you talking about when you say "think about it"? You said "they never showed up", what does that mean? To me it sounds like you have unrealistic expectations for these games. If you really want the true basketball experience go outside and play. I mean these games can only do but so much. I love 2k but nothing beats playing actual Basketball.

          Thats exactly why I said some of you don't understand the how difficult it is to make a sport game. This genre is really difficult. You probably have played a shooter campaign, the ai in those games have to do WAY less than a sports games cpu players, all they have to do is shoot, take cover throw a grenade and reload.

          A nba 2k cpu controlled player, has to rotate, set screens, play defense, run plays, react, block shots, use isomotion,rebound etc. Your basically asking the computer to think like a human. That programming is very difficult. To me the cpu AI in 2k12 was good, I liked 2k12. 2k11 was better. The teammates AI how ever needs a lot of work in 2k. But if you run plays and make your cpu teammates do less "thinking" you can run a realistic offense. But the AI from 2k has for the most part always been spot on. It needs improvement but every game always needs to improve the AI. So its not just 2k. Every company focuses on improving that aspect of their game.
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          • apollooff320
            Banned
            • Oct 2007
            • 1456

            #440
            Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

            Just watched video...looks like the same **** we already have with the cheezing AI. Cuz I still see the AI doing late shot clock shots.

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            • coolcras7
              MVP
              • Sep 2009
              • 2337

              #441
              Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

              just confirmed by Rob Jones allstar add-on will be playable in mypalyer and association.
              PSN=Coolcas7

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              • TrapStar215
                MVP
                • Jun 2008
                • 2832

                #442
                Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                Originally posted by coolcras7
                just confirmed by Rob Jones allstar add-on will be playable in mypalyer and association.
                With what proof?
                "Okay, here's the story. I come from the gutter. I know that. I got no education... but that's okay. I know the street, and I'm making all the right connections. With the right woman, there's no stopping me. I could go right to the top."

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                • coolcras7
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2337

                  #443
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                  Originally posted by TrapStar215
                  With what proof?
                  2k is streaming E3 Ronnie just interviewed Rob they also posted it on twitter

                  2K Sports 2K12<s>@</s>2KSports
                  Rob Jones confirms <s>#</s>NBA2K13 All-Star add-on content will be playable in MyPlayer & Association mode! Pre-order here: http://2kgam.es/NBA2KStore
                  PSN=Coolcas7

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                  • LD2k
                    2K Sports Community Manager
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1261

                    #444
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                    The All-Star add-on content will be playable in MyPlayer & Association mode as confirmed by Rob Jones!
                    Community Manager 2K Sports // Twitter: LD2k

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                    • TrapStar215
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2832

                      #445
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                      Originally posted by Beluba
                      Just a small update... I figured out why Manu blasted through the D in that vid. I fixed it this morning. Rest assured there will be PLENTY of contact in NBA2K13.
                      Can you guys revert back to the old dunk controls for the contest while you are at it?
                      "Okay, here's the story. I come from the gutter. I know that. I got no education... but that's okay. I know the street, and I'm making all the right connections. With the right woman, there's no stopping me. I could go right to the top."

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                      • NINJAK2
                        *S *dd*ct
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 6185

                        #446
                        Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                        Originally posted by gdh5503
                        These guys spend so much money on strategy marketing and development that they forget about gameplay, player models and AI adaptability. It has been 13 years and we still don't have a basketball sim to revolutionize the way we play basketball games. 2k to me still has another level to go and i don't think they will do it this year either.

                        To me 2K12 was a downgrade. 2K11 was okay... Better than 2K12, but okay. I still don't see it happening this year either. I don't know what they are waiting for but they haven't wowed me. I mean think about it for a second just really sit back and think about it. Have we seen a basketball sim that has revolutionized the way we play simulation basketball? It has been over 13 years we have spent money to play these so called simulation basketball games.

                        I am not talking about the development over the years because I give them credit in the sense that as a game in general they have come pretty far from a graphic standpoint and the things you can do as a user, the moves and stuff you can pull off, but what I am taking about is changing the way we play and the way the AI plays against us. I have not been immersed into a basketball sim yet. Not even 2K has sucked me into that "experience" that they talk about every year. Presentation, gameplay all that is okay but not spectacular the way it is hyped up. I found myself skipping through the Sprint momentum play by play by Doris Burke the halftime report I skip, and the intermissions with other teams that are playing report gets skipped. Even the intros I skipped after a month.

                        they are making claims about simulation, gameplay experience, ESPN this, Sprite that, and neither Live or 2K has really showed up. Live especially, these dudes been out the game for two years and their build is below average at this point and they don't have very long to go to launch and I fear for them. look how long its been that we have played these basketball games. Just sit and think about it. What are they waiting for, Next Gen consoles? I hope not because we will be right back here again, all next gen is going to be is graphic enhancement.

                        Its been a very long time for these basketball sims and we are still being tickled with gameplay and visuals. Just think about it as a consumer. Does anyone feel cheated but me? Just my opinion either 2K and maybe Live for that matter are holding back for something big for next year because it is not this year and I can guarantee that based on what I have seen so far and we all know they don't have a whole lot of time to scrap and build again before launch or in reality they have reached their CEILING.

                        Both games in my opinion need an EXTREME MAKEOVER from player models not just faces, to presentation and commentary adaptability, replays and halftime reports, a real deep and immersive Dynasty mode, deep and immersive Create a player not just my player but create a player in Dynasty mode, Olympic games and teams not in a mode only but also into the deep and immersive Dynasty mode and so on. Its been 13 years?!!??
                        Great post man. IMO though you aren't giving 2k enough credit. 2k11 was better than "just okay" and 2k12 despite what some believe, was not a terrible game of hoops. If the speed, passing,contact, and double team issues in 2k12 were non-existent I don't believe this title would get some of the venom they do. I know the contact issues or lack there of was a direct reaction to complainers in 2k11 who hated being bumped when they tried to cheese the paint minus a real plan.

                        Basketball is basketball. You run,pass,shoot,rebound, defend, dribble. What can really be done on joysticks to revolutionize those basics? A.I. is really the only thing that can be done to these games to take them to another level. Basketball is such a tough sport to program in this area and always will be. You got 10 people out there all reacting to both the ball and location of teammates and opponents out on the floor. So many variables to process. Not saying programming A.I. in other sports games is easy, just saying the sport of basketball is so spontaneous in how things can play out it's hard to account for everything.

                        I don't expect these devs to re-invent the wheel with every iteration only to improve on what they have done previously to some extent. 2k12 fell victim to ambition minus a lack of focus. Don't think that happens this year..
                        EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                        • NINJAK2
                          *S *dd*ct
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6185

                          #447
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                          Originally posted by LD2k
                          From the Kotaku article:
                          Got a link LD2k?
                          EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                          • LD2k
                            2K Sports Community Manager
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1261

                            #448
                            Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                            Originally posted by NINJAK2
                            Got a link LD2k?
                            Yup. You can read it here: http://kotaku.com/5916138/competitio...plays-the-game
                            Community Manager 2K Sports // Twitter: LD2k

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                            • TrapStar215
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2832

                              #449
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                              Originally posted by coolcras7
                              2k is streaming E3 Ronnie just interviewed Rob they also posted it on twitter

                              2K Sports 2K12<s>@</s>2KSports
                              Rob Jones confirms <s>#</s>NBA2K13 All-Star add-on content will be playable in MyPlayer & Association mode! Pre-order here: http://2kgam.es/NBA2KStore
                              Originally posted by LD2k
                              The All-Star add-on content will be playable in MyPlayer & Association mode as confirmed by Rob Jones!
                              If they take out Dunk Hero and let you control the player this will be good news.
                              "Okay, here's the story. I come from the gutter. I know that. I got no education... but that's okay. I know the street, and I'm making all the right connections. With the right woman, there's no stopping me. I could go right to the top."

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                              • NINJAK2
                                *S *dd*ct
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 6185

                                #450
                                Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder &amp; All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

                                Originally posted by TrapStar215
                                If they take out Dunk Hero and let you control the player this will be good news.
                                After reading the article they at Kotaku sounds like they still have the blacktop mode with 3pt/dunk contest and that dunk contest will play similar to previous versions...
                                EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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