the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

[DontHateOnPlaya]

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Where's the new update???

[acidraindrops08]

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Just played a game, everything checked out. Chicago vs Golden State. Deng lit me up for 32 points and Rose had 10 assists. I ended up losing 101-97.

Only things that seemed out of whack were ...

I shot 58% from three

PITP were a little high for the CPU, there was actually a point where I was getting really frustrated since the cpu was bounce passing the ball thru the heart of my D into the paint.

Turnovers seemed a little low, had 8 for Chi and 7 for me

They outscored me 20-8 on second chance points

The CPU had 25 fts to my 13

It was a really good game all around, but the two final stats were definitely the catalyst to my defeat. I'll keep testing these and see if these are reoccuring themes or not. Either way good sliders.

[Padgoi]

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Are you going to post the updates, version 2.5?

[Padgoi]

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No offense, but I just got done playing a game against the Milwaukee Bucks and the 3-pt slider is just simply too high. I understand Michael Redd is a good 3-point shooter, but when the guy is 8-11 from the arc, their team shoots 50% from the arc, and MY team shoots 50% from the arc, the slider may need to come down ever so slightly. I'm considering maybe 44 (from 46). Just a suggestion.

[cactusruss]

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No offense, but I just got done playing a game against the Milwaukee Bucks and the 3-pt slider is just simply too high. I understand Michael Redd is a good 3-point shooter, but when the guy is 8-11 from the arc, their team shoots 50% from the arc, and MY team shoots 50% from the arc, the slider may need to come down ever so slightly. I'm considering maybe 44 (from 46). Just a suggestion.

I use the Bucks alot when I play... I've had games where Redd goes 1-8 on 3s and the team shoots below 20%. I've also had games like you described. Just because a team averages 35% on 3s doesn't mean they shoot 35% every game. Thats part of the beauty of this game with these sliders... you get alot of different types of games, but in the long run, everything averages out to where it should be.

[DaTwolves21]

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1st Game with these sliders: Also using nogsters/blazer roster set


Lakers:115-cpu
Cav:106-me

Field Goals
Lakers:49/93 for 52%
Cavs:44/103 for 42%

3pt
Lakers:10/25 for 40%
Cavs:6/31 for 19%

FT
Lakers:7/9 for 77%
Cavs: 12/14 for 85%

Ast
Lakers:30
Cavs:23

Fouls:
Lakers:8
Cavs:8

Total Rebounds:
Lakers:43
Cavs:52

Off.Rebounds:
Lakers:9
Cavs:19

Points In Paint:
Lakers:64
Cavs:56

Lakers:
Kobe- 34pts(12-25) 4 reb 16 ast 2 stl
Odom- 30pts(15-18) 14 reb 2 ast
Bynum- 17 pts 9 reb 7 ast
Gasol- 10 pts 11 reb 3 stl
Vujavic- 19 pts 4 reb 3 ast

Cavs:
Lebron- 47pts(17-44) 5 reb 6 ast 1 stl
West- 22pts 2 reb 2 stl
Ilgaukas- 7 pts 15 reb 2 stl
Wallace- 6 pts 16reb 2 stl
Williams- 4 pts(2-10) 1 reb 7 ast 2 stl

Ummm where to begin:
Issues
No fatigue
Subs(i guess goes with no fatigue)
No Free throws

Pretty good they got on nice run at the end of game and won from there.

[ravellron]

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whats happened to the future???? he misses a lot...

[gottibino]

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I'm using Nogsters rosters & I'm having trouble w/ the players speed & skating. It seems as if the players r super quick & fast but move
sideways real jerky but not so much towards the hoop. Also, the Bigs down low seem to take jump hooks & such when they r open right next to the hoop but don't take it in strong to lay-up or dunk. PLEASE help me fix these w/ some slider adjustments. THANKS A MIL & PLEASE HELP!!

Anyone???

[Walker8]

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I've basically spent today messing around with some sliders. I originally tried Aaron's sliders with default rosters. The games were pretty good and the stats were realistic and I like what he was trying to do. The game also played fairly realistically although there were too many missed easy shots. I then dloaded nogsters rosters and tried them on default allstar and with these sliders. I appreciate what you guys are trying to do, and I wish i had mroe positive feedback but I don't really. The stats are fairly realistic but the game just doesn't play right imo. Is just seems to me like you've just recreated the layup bug and there are way too many missed easy shots that should be made instead of actual defense being played. I'm just not feeling these sliders. I'm sorry. Playing with nogsters rosters on default allstar i played a game and shot 70%. IT was way too easy to score even though the cpu was playing fairly realistically. I then tried these and there was very little defense being played. I would upfake and they would bite or i would have plenty of room for a shot. I just didnt get that sense that i was missing because the other team was playing defense.

[Weapon X]

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Just played a quick game with Nogster and portlandblazer's new Outsiders roster, extremely fun game on All-Star with 12 min quarters. I was up by as much as 10 at one point in the third but they made a serious run in the fourth, eventually widdling the lead down to one in the dying seconds of regulation and Nene turns the inbounds pass over for an easy Tyson Chandler layup for the lead! I was never so happy to lose a game by a player mimicking real life and doing something so unbelievably bone headed. Also an interesting side note, K-Mart turned the ball over to Peterson, only for JR Smith to take it right back. However once JR had control of the ball Peterson flopped to the floor and the refs called a charge! I was thinking "there's no way he got his feet set after scuffling for the ball like that" but in the end I actually liked how the refs in 2K make bull**** calls just like the ones in real life. Not sure if it had to do with the sliders or not but just something I felt I had to share =). Anyways, onto the stats.

------------------NOH-----------DEN(me)
Points-------------104-----------103
FGM/A/%------45/101/44%-----39/94/41%
3PTRS---------1/13/7%-----4/18/22%
FTs-----------13/16/81%-----21/26/80%
Assists------------34-------------29
Turn--------------9--------------11
Fouls-------------16--------------13
Rebs--------------49-------------54
OReb-------------8-----------------9
Steal------------- 10---------------9
Block--------------6----------------2
PitP---------------58--------------38
Bench-------------1---------------10
2nd Chance--------10-------------10
Fast Break---------16--------------13

The one glaring issue was obviously the points in the paint, I'm also extremely surprised that they only managed ONE bench point all game. Other than that, that was easily the best game I've had with 2K9 thus far.

[JHedges2]

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Where's Future been? Has a set been finalized?

[DontHateOnPlaya]

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Just played a quick game with Nogster and portlandblazer's new Outsiders roster, extremely fun game on All-Star with 12 min quarters. I was up by as much as 10 at one point in the third but they made a serious run in the fourth, eventually widdling the lead down to one in the dying seconds of regulation and Nene turns the inbounds pass over for an easy Tyson Chandler layup for the lead! I was never so happy to lose a game by a player mimicking real life and doing something so unbelievably bone headed. Also an interesting side note, K-Mart turned the ball over to Peterson, only for JR Smith to take it right back. However once JR had control of the ball Peterson flopped to the floor and the refs called a charge! I was thinking "there's no way he got his feet set after scuffling for the ball like that" but in the end I actually liked how the refs in 2K make bull**** calls just like the ones in real life. Not sure if it had to do with the sliders or not but just something I felt I had to share =). Anyways, onto the stats.

------------------NOH-----------DEN(me)
Points-------------104-----------103
FGM/A/%------45/101/44%-----39/94/41%
3PTRS---------1/13/7%-----4/18/22%
FTs-----------13/16/81%-----21/26/80%
Assists------------34-------------29
Turn--------------9--------------11
Fouls-------------16--------------13
Rebs--------------49-------------54
OReb-------------8-----------------9
Steal------------- 10---------------9
Block--------------6----------------2
PitP---------------58--------------38
Bench-------------1---------------10
2nd Chance--------10-------------10
Fast Break---------16--------------13

The one glaring issue was obviously the points in the paint, I'm also extremely surprised that they only managed ONE bench point all game. Other than that, that was easily the best game I've had with 2K9 thus far.

Did you not notice the ridiculous 3 point percentage comon..

[teampunjabi]

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Just played a quick game with Nogster and portlandblazer's new Outsiders roster, extremely fun game on All-Star with 12 min quarters. I was up by as much as 10 at one point in the third but they made a serious run in the fourth, eventually widdling the lead down to one in the dying seconds of regulation and Nene turns the inbounds pass over for an easy Tyson Chandler layup for the lead! I was never so happy to lose a game by a player mimicking real life and doing something so unbelievably bone headed. Also an interesting side note, K-Mart turned the ball over to Peterson, only for JR Smith to take it right back. However once JR had control of the ball Peterson flopped to the floor and the refs called a charge! I was thinking "there's no way he got his feet set after scuffling for the ball like that" but in the end I actually liked how the refs in 2K make bull**** calls just like the ones in real life. Not sure if it had to do with the sliders or not but just something I felt I had to share =). Anyways, onto the stats.

------------------NOH-----------DEN(me)
Points-------------104-----------103
FGM/A/%------45/101/44%-----39/94/41%
3PTRS---------1/13/7%-----4/18/22%
FTs-----------13/16/81%-----21/26/80%
Assists------------34-------------29
Turn--------------9--------------11
Fouls-------------16--------------13
Rebs--------------49-------------54
OReb-------------8-----------------9
Steal------------- 10---------------9
Block--------------6----------------2
PitP---------------58--------------38
Bench-------------1---------------10
2nd Chance--------10-------------10
Fast Break---------16--------------13

The one glaring issue was obviously the points in the paint, I'm also extremely surprised that they only managed ONE bench point all game. Other than that, that was easily the best game I've had with 2K9 thus far.

I have been playing with nogsters/ portland rosters and Futures sliders also, please comment on my issues:

1. Dunking - It seems that there arent ANY dunks unless you are on a breakaway.

2. We have to address the 3pt percentages and even midrange jumper percentage.

3. I think its really easy to get by my defender off the dribble

4. OFF COURSE PITP...theres still too many of them most of the time.

5. I cant seem to get ANY blocks either

6. Fatigue also...I play on Rotations...so my players get in and out regardless.


Has any1 else noticed these issues also. Lets discuss and try and make some changes.

[Walker8]

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I have been playing with nogsters/ portland rosters and Futures sliders also, please comment on my issues:

1. Dunking - It seems that there arent ANY dunks unless you are on a breakaway.

2. We have to address the 3pt percentages and even midrange jumper percentage.

3. I think its really easy to get by my defender off the dribble

4. OFF COURSE PITP...theres still too many of them most of the time.

5. I cant seem to get ANY blocks either

6. Fatigue also...I play on Rotations...so my players get in and out regardless.


Has any1 else noticed these issues also. Lets discuss and try and make some changes.

Pretty much. I really don't want to be trashing these because i know the hard work that has gone into this stuff. But all you guys have done is make guys not be able to block anything or play defense and offensive players now just suck and cant hit shots they should be able to. I was playing with the C's and Ray Allen, Eddie House and Pierce, GArnett were throwing up bricks all game and missing layups and shots they should hit when they were basically uncovered. The game doesnt play as a sim on default with default rosters, but at least guys hit shots they should make and there is defense being played. I'm really considering just going back to that and adjusting the shooting percentages slightly all around and just reducing the cpu's tendancies forcing it in the paint and increasing the help defense a bit. This game is obviously screwed up. Surprisingly nogsters rosters on superstar difficulty default has given me the best games so far. Also Aarons sliders with default rosters were pretty good.

[DaTwolves21]

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yeh i had 1 good game with these then every game after has been trash, computer cant hold onto the ball, alot of turnovers, so i raised the hands up to 15 from 0. Yeh fatigue or lack there of is very present. Real rap since i've started using these I have noticed alot of crazy stuff, glitches that i've never saw present before. I saw the pg stuttering repeatedly and it wasn't a move, it was weird, i saw this skating thing for the 1st time....Hmm is it me or are you guys seeing the same.