the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

[rmcguire]

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is the most current set posted on the front page. I've already started my association with playmakers sliders, but considering doing some adjustments.

thanks

[cardinalbird5]

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These are my favorite sliders so far. The only thing I'd say is the CPU falls for the pump fake too often.

[ravellron]

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this are finally real yes... but there something to adjust in rebounds.. with a good defense, cpu won too much OR like 30 to 8....only because i had a small C (bulls) and the C (bucks) always stay under the basket and steal the rebound..
i get a gap of 22 point only for this...sometimes i think that are not only slider, but it's the allstar diff to force many things..

about the pump fake is good... try to use a worst team and play against a strong one.... you will love pump fake...and when you try to attack basket they always try stop you... isn't easy to do a layup...

[Intelx]

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So I played 2 games last night after downloading these sliders and also nogsters rosters. I must say that the game does play beautifully and the had work is much appreciated.

Here are my concerns:

1. The CPU AI still seems to nail 3pt shots at will. Mike Dunleavey completely torched me in both games last night having close to 30 points by the half of both games. It just seems as though no matter how tight you play or get a hand up they can knock down that J with ease. Now this is only Mike Dunleavey doing this. I have yet to face any premier shooters yet and don't wanna imagine the beating I will take when I face them if it's this bad now.

2. The CPU AI seems to finish everything close to the basket while my players miss some lay-ups that have no business being missed.

3. In both games The pacers shot well over the 55% mark which I found rather high.

4. What happened to the step back move??? It's completely non existent now. I keep doing a hop step when i try to pull this move off.

Overall the game plays well but I think these small things need to be addressed in the update.

Intelx

[JHedges2]

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Bout to run a Suns/Clippers game on the road, stats afterwards.

*Sidenote: This is my first game with Nogsters rosters + Future sliders.

[the_future420]

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So I played 2 games last night after downloading these sliders and also nogsters rosters. I must say that the game does play beautifully and the had work is much appreciated.

Here are my concerns:

1. The CPU AI still seems to nail 3pt shots at will. Mike Dunleavey completely torched me in both games last night having close to 30 points by the half of both games. It just seems as though no matter how tight you play or get a hand up they can knock down that J with ease. Now this is only Mike Dunleavey doing this. I have yet to face any premier shooters yet and don't wanna imagine the beating I will take when I face them if it's this bad now.

2. The CPU AI seems to finish everything close to the basket while my players miss some lay-ups that have no business being missed.

3. In both games The pacers shot well over the 55% mark which I found rather high.

4. What happened to the step back move??? It's completely non existent now. I keep doing a hop step when i try to pull this move off.

Overall the game plays well but I think these small things need to be addressed in the update.

Intelx

I agree with both of the points in bold. I notice that the CPU completes a high percentage of And 1's. I also noticed I couldn't pull-off some step back moves. I will probably have to increase ball handling, but then on-ball D will have to come up as well to compensate.

As for the Mike Dunleavy/Pacers thing, I honestly think its important to realize that some players/teams will have good games. If you notice the posts in this thread, lots of people are saying the CPU is too good at shooting and others are saying they are bad at shooting. There is a bit of variety in CPU shooting that you will notice the more you play.

I'm not sure if you are making coaching adjustments in game or not, but you have to up the defensive pressure when playing against perimeter orientated teams. Force them to put the ball on the floor and penetrate.


As for the sliders, my next update will be the last one I make. I hope to have it out tonight, but it might not be until tomorrow. Like I said a couple days ago, Friday is the last day I'm adjusting sliders. I want to make sure I get things right in the last update so please bare with me. Things I will be trying to adjust among others:

Rebounding (hopefully increasing over-the-back fouls in the process)
Alley-Oops
Step Back Moves/Ballhandling
CPU And 1s

[MikeGiani]

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Yea getting rebounds is the main issue right now.

That and not being able to fast break like I want....I haven't played since u dropped CPU speed down to 47...so I assume that fixed that?

[the_future420]

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Yea getting rebounds is the main issue right now.

That and not being able to fast break like I want....I haven't played since u dropped CPU speed down to 47...so I assume that fixed that?

Yeah, the drop of speed to 47 pretty much fixed that issue. My last game I had 14 fast break points with the Bulls. I'm currently trying to decide if 47 or 48 is the best speed for CPU. The fast break game has definitely opened up, but I don't want it to be exploitable.

[JHedges2]

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Yea getting rebounds is the main issue right now.

That and not being able to fast break like I want....I haven't played since u dropped CPU speed down to 47...so I assume that fixed that?

Yeah dude it's a lot better now! (Esp. considering I play with PHX lol)

[ravellron]

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hi future, i ask you a question...
for you its good if i put stamina to 45 cuz i play 10min quarter????
hovever when you release the slider 2.5 i would appreciate if you tell which roster could be used and with with roster you elaborated it...

[the_future420]

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hi future, i ask you a question...
for you its good if i put stamina to 45 cuz i play 10min quarter????
hovever when you release the slider 2.5 i would appreciate if you tell which roster could be used and with with roster you elaborated it...

I would imagine 45 stamina with 10 min qtrs would be fine. As a matter of fact, I saw somebody else who played 10 min qtrs(different sliders) use 45 for stamina. Should work.

As for roster's, I think nogster's are the best. His tendency edits help the game. Still trying to figure out if I should edit my tendencies any to conincide with his rosters.

[JHedges2]

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I would imagine 45 stamina with 10 min qtrs would be fine. As a matter of fact, I saw somebody else who played 10 min qtrs(different sliders) use 45 for stamina. Should work.

As for roster's, I think nogster's are the best. His tendency edits help the game. Still trying to figure out if I should edit my tendencies any to conincide with his rosters.

I play 9 minute quarters and 47 is too high, but as for 10 minute quarters, I would try 46 first.

Future, what are the 3 or 4 "most concerning" stat issues? When I'm done with my Suns/Clippers game, I'll just post those, I won't bother posting all of them. Just let me know what ppl are most concerned about and I'll put those stats up. Think we almost got it perfect as we're gonna get it bud.

[ravellron]

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thx very much.... i wait yuor update really, but you think to release difference in shoot value or you'll let the same????

close 35
mid 45
3pt 46
lu 44

or difference of +1 for users or such a things

????????????



jman maybe you play different than me, i always try to play slow as possible... however than fast break...


another thing future...
but what's we have to adjust about coaching?????
you told that with second joypad we have to adjust what????
how we could do it in association???

[the_future420]

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I play 9 minute quarters and 47 is too high, but as for 10 minute quarters, I would try 46 first.

Future, what are the 3 or 4 "most concerning" stat issues? When I'm done with my Suns/Clippers game, I'll just post those, I won't bother posting all of them. Just let me know what ppl are most concerned about and I'll put those stats up. Think we almost got it perfect as we're gonna get it bud.

Stat wise, I'd say these are the most important issues in no particular order:

Point in the Paint
Team Fouls
Offensive/Defensive Rebounds
Assists

[the_future420]

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thx very much.... i wait yuor update really, but you think to release difference in shoot value or you'll let the same????

close 35
mid 45
3pt 46
lu 44

or difference of +1 for users or such a things

????????????



jman maybe you play different than me, i always try to play slow as possible... however than fast break...


another thing future...
but what's we have to adjust about coaching?????
you told that with second joypad we have to adjust what????
how we could do it in association???

I was referring to the post where somebody said the Pacers/Mike Dunleavy was lighting him up from 3. I suggested to up defensive pressure so that good shooting teams won't get as many clean looks from 3. To do this in game, I belive its left on the D-Pad.