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  • the_future420
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 3086

    #181
    Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

    Originally posted by jcwkings
    Is anybody using these with nogsters tendencies, because yesterday i played 5 minute quarters against the bulls, i was the spurs, and the bulls only took 2 threes the whole game with nogsters tendencies.
    I've been playing using Rashidi's rosters, but I've been hearing alot of good things about nogster's rosters/tendencies and since alot of people are using those I'm gonna download them and see how they change the game.
    PSN ID: thefuture420
    Twitch
    Now Playing: MLB The Show 16, Fifa 16, Fallout 4

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    • JHedges2
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 4651

      #182
      Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

      Originally posted by the_future420
      I've been playing using Rashidi's rosters, but I've been hearing alot of good things about nogster's rosters/tendencies and since alot of people are using those I'm gonna download them and see how they change the game.
      Excuse my ignorance, but what is this, "Nogsters" deal? I thought you were using your own rosters/tendencies...?

      How can you use both? Sorry, just a little confused...
      Arsenal | New York Yankees

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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28961

        #183
        Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

        Originally posted by JMan350Z
        Excuse my ignorance, but what is this, "Nogsters" deal? I thought you were using your own rosters/tendencies...?

        How can you use both? Sorry, just a little confused...
        There are three types of tendencies in this game...

        1) Individual players have tendency attributes
        2) Coaches have tendency attributes (under Coach Profile)
        3) The gameplay sliders have tendencies you can adjust

        Since the_future made a slider set, the tendencies he changed are the gameplay slider ones. Nogster changed the tendency of #1 I listed above, the individual player tendencies. He went in and edited every single player's attributes to make the game play more realistically.
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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        • the_future420
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 3086

          #184
          Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

          Originally posted by JMan350Z
          Excuse my ignorance, but what is this, "Nogsters" deal? I thought you were using your own rosters/tendencies...?

          How can you use both? Sorry, just a little confused...
          There's a guy named nogster who has gone in and actually edited each individual's player tendencies and posted a roster file for download. From what I've been hearing, those player tendency edits go a long way into making the game play more realistic.

          My sliders affect global gameplay and global tendencies, but they aren't player specific, so by combining nogster's edits and my sliders, the game should play much differently that out-of-the-box default, if that makes sense.
          PSN ID: thefuture420
          Twitch
          Now Playing: MLB The Show 16, Fifa 16, Fallout 4

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          • JHedges2
            MVP
            • Jan 2007
            • 4651

            #185
            Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

            Thanks guys. Sounds like SOMEONE has quite a bit of spare time on their hands....god I can't imagine how long that must've taken...
            Arsenal | New York Yankees

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            • JHedges2
              MVP
              • Jan 2007
              • 4651

              #186
              Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

              Alright guys, I took your advice and DL the Nogster rosters...I then went into season mode, and selected 12 min sim qtrs and 9 min qtrs for me to play (my preference). I am trying to see what I need to set sim qtrs at to get the most realistic stats among league leaders. I simmed every game through the end of December. The top 3 in each category were as follows:

              PPG: James (31.3), Bryant (26.6), Stoudemire (25.4)
              RPG: Howard (13.4), Duncan (10.4), Camby (10.0)
              APG: Calderon (10.4), Williams (10.1), Paul (10.0)
              BPG: Howard (3.0), Bogut (3.0), J.Smith/Kirilenko (2.8)

              Looks good. However, only 3 players avg. 10+ APG, and only 3 avg 10+ RPG...this seems a bit low...
              Arsenal | New York Yankees

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              • Lenkbron
                Rookie
                • Apr 2006
                • 230

                #187
                Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                Originally posted by JMan350Z
                Alright guys, I took your advice and DL the Nogster rosters...I then went into season mode, and selected 12 min sim qtrs and 9 min qtrs for me to play (my preference). I am trying to see what I need to set sim qtrs at to get the most realistic stats among league leaders. I simmed every game through the end of December. The top 3 in each category were as follows:

                PPG: James (31.3), Bryant (26.6), Stoudemire (25.4)
                RPG: Howard (13.4), Duncan (10.4), Camby (10.0)
                APG: Calderon (10.4), Williams (10.1), Paul (10.0)
                BPG: Howard (3.0), Bogut (3.0), J.Smith/Kirilenko (2.8)

                Looks good. However, only 3 players avg. 10+ APG, and only 3 avg 10+ RPG...this seems a bit low...
                The assisst thing is perfect, look at the leaders of the last years, there have only been 1-2 or maximum 3 guys having 10+ assissts.
                Rebounding is a little low, you're right there.

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                • jcwkings
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 189

                  #188
                  Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                  check the team ppg and ppg against also.

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                  • teampunjabi
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 180

                    #189
                    Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                    Originally posted by the_future420
                    I've been playing using Rashidi's rosters, but I've been hearing alot of good things about nogster's rosters/tendencies and since alot of people are using those I'm gonna download them and see how they change the game.

                    I am also using this combo ( your sliders with Nogsters Rosters) I feel like my FG % is a little low and there are ALOT of assists. Also it is way to east to get by my defender. I would be very interested to see what observations you make and what changes you suggest to make to your sliders. Using Nogsters rosters are making teams and players look INCREDIBLY real. I mean there is no going back. Can someone tell me what RASHIDI has done with his rosters? Tendencies? Attributes?

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                    • JHedges2
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4651

                      #190
                      Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                      Originally posted by jcwkings
                      check the team ppg and ppg against also.
                      Roughly 60% of the league was scoring 100+ (13 teams in the NBA avg. 100+ last season), and all but 9 were allowing 100+ ppg.

                      I haven't played any games with these new roster tendencies, but simming the season to the all star break yielded those stats, so it seems reasonable. I think I am just about as satisfied as I'm going to be before starting my season, but I too (like Future), won't stop tweaking until Friday night.
                      Arsenal | New York Yankees

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                      • Padgoi
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1873

                        #191
                        Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                        After reading a little more of this thread, I feel I need to point out a few things to those complaining:

                        1. These sliders will not have a great impact on HUMAN PitP if you continually drive to the hoop. You have to play SMART basketball. I can drive to the hoop every time too and get 75% of my points in the paint, but I'll lose by 25 because I'm forcing it. You have to play SMART.

                        2. I actually noticed BEFORE Nogster's rosters that the CPU was shooting a low fg%, but after downloading his rosters, it plays better. I was a little disappointed when the Bucks started off the first quarter shooting like 30%, but by halftime, they were back above 40% and finished the game at like 46%.

                        3. Future has stated that no sliders are perfect and he's right. We all play the game differently. I personally feel these are the closest to realism right now out of all the slider combos I see posted (not to impugn anyone else), but if you feel something needs to be tweaked, by all means, tweak it. These are a base set, i.e., no slider should need more than 5 or so notches up or down, but there may be certain things that need a little tweaking based on your style of play.

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                        • stizz
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1718

                          #192
                          Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                          Originally posted by the_future420
                          Also, I still haven't been able to execute an alley-oop, even with Dunking Ability at 36. Has anybody been able to successfully execute an oop?
                          I changed my dunking ability to 45 cause that's what nogster said he had his set to. Dunks still seem realistic and I can throw alley-oops when there's no one in traffic.

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                          • DontHateOnPlaya
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 43

                            #193
                            Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                            Originally posted by the_future420
                            Shooting definitely needs to come up. I'm thinking layup succes to 45, and close range +1
                            Okay well i will do that and let you know the results as usual...funny how i called back in the first few pages that this was the best set oout haha..i think i can see the future lol
                            "Don't Hate the Playa, Hate the Game!"

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                            • DontHateOnPlaya
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 43

                              #194
                              Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                              Originally posted by JMan350Z
                              Final, it was a cakewalk...as to be expected I suppose. Knicks are horrible.
                              Hey Jman i appreciate your stats but keep them comments about the knicks to yourself lol..

                              Future are you planning on releasing another because i am not sure i see much more to change...i mean maybe close shots for human and computer..and about the turnovers..if we lower the steal, then we will lower turnovers therefor its pointless..i think variety is the number one option..

                              Those who feel the game is too easy higher the computer's shooting sliders. Those who feel its too hard lower them. I dont know what else to say. If you have a good team dont expect a tough challenge all the time. THose like a team like the knicks (Their excellent jman) should expect a nice challenge every game. I think these sliders are really close to the actual nba experience.

                              What do you guys think?
                              "Don't Hate the Playa, Hate the Game!"

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                              • j-rod1326
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 205

                                #195
                                Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                                i have a question. Howcome i can't perform a stepback with these sliders. I can only hopstep?

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