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  • JHedges2
    MVP
    • Jan 2007
    • 4651

    #226
    Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

    Originally posted by the_future420
    Stat wise, I'd say these are the most important issues in no particular order:

    Point in the Paint
    Team Fouls
    Offensive/Defensive Rebounds
    Assists
    Well, the gameplay was rather different with the new rosters, in fact, I think I am going to bump up to 10 minute quarters, because I only shot 35/78 (44%) from the field (and you know I've told you I play a fast tempo game).

    I lost (PHX) to the Clippers, 94-102. Key stats were as follows:

    PiTP: PHX 48/94 (51% were PiTP), LAC 56/102 (55% were PiTP)

    Assists: PHX 28, LAC 27

    Fouls: PHX 16, LAC 13 *Most of my fouls were at the end of game*

    Rebounds: PHX 30 (7 OReb), LAC 40 (13 OReb)

    2nd Chance Pts: PHX 2, LAC 19

    SUMMARY: Most of the stats were not significantly different from what I've seen without Nogster's rosters. I did get beat on the boards by 10, and they did have 13 offensive rebounds, but the Clippers do have Camby (13.1 RPG #2 overall), AND Kaman (12.7 RPG #3 overall) on their team, so I expected to get out rebounded. They also blocked 9 shots, which seems high, but they do have those 2 who are pretty prolific shot blockers.

    I was pleased overall, and I will play another before upping to 10 minute quarters. More later...
    Arsenal | New York Yankees

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    • JHedges2
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 4651

      #227
      Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

      Just looking over last years stats for 3 point %...and the league ranged from 39% (PHX) to 31% (PHI).

      Through 4 games, I've averaged a mere 25%, with the CPU averaging 28%...PERHAPS something should be tweaked...dunno if any others of you are having trouble with this too?

      Also Team Foul numbers: League average was from Utah (24) to New Orleans (18), through those same 4 games I average 18.5 to the CPU's 14.4...so perhaps the "commit foul" should be tweaked as well...just food for thought.
      Last edited by JHedges2; 10-16-2008, 01:08 PM. Reason: Added Team Foul information.
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      • Keaton
        Rookie
        • Jun 2008
        • 207

        #228
        Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

        Had the same problems with low 3pt%(use nogsters roster too, the lowered all shooting ratings...), fixed that by putting the threes one up for user and cpu. But now the score seems a bit high with 12mins...

        Off rebounding was nasty, got outrebounded every time (some times over 20 off boards by the cpu), tweakd it in know 10 games. Put user def rebound to 40, know its beginning to be fair. (still, good rebounder like Marion grab only 6 per game in 38 mins..no one over 6pg in my miami team)

        Defender really jump to often on pump fakes...

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        • MikeGiani
          Pro
          • Aug 2008
          • 680

          #229
          Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

          yea commit foul should be raised...
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          • JHedges2
            MVP
            • Jan 2007
            • 4651

            #230
            Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

            Just played again and beat the Magic with the Hornets.

            New Orleans 100 - Orlando 90.

            Good game but they only fouled 11 times, granted I did go to the line and shoot 17/20......Rebounds were even at 41.....42 of their 90 were in the paint, so that's good.....they did take 24 3's (made 8)......i shot 5/17 from 3pt (still too low, may raise both CPU and USER +1).....they lost the TO battle, 10-6.

            Chris Paul is amazing to play with. WOW.

            Chris Paul: 29 pts, 9 reb, 16 ast, 3 stl

            Chandler: 16 pts, 12 reb, 3 blk
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            • JHedges2
              MVP
              • Jan 2007
              • 4651

              #231
              Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

              Originally posted by Keaton
              Defender really jump to often on pump fakes...
              How do we fix this? I am thinking it PROBABLY has to do with the fact that we have "Contest Shots" tendency at 100...perhaps if we lowered it then the CPU would be more disciplined on pump fakes?

              If it's not that, then perhaps it is On-Ball Defense (35) or Defensive Awareness (75).

              If anyone wants to try messing with these it would be appreciated ...
              Arsenal | New York Yankees

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              • rmcguire
                Rookie
                • Nov 2004
                • 412

                #232
                Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                played a quick game at lunch had way too many steals with only 8 minute quarters I had 10 steals cpu had me(76ers) vs. cpu(Rockets) everything else looked fine

                which sliders in conjunction lower the steals or is this on the plate for the final update?

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #233
                  Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                  Originally posted by rmcguire
                  played a quick game at lunch had way too many steals with only 8 minute quarters I had 10 steals cpu had me(76ers) vs. cpu(Rockets) everything else looked fine

                  which sliders in conjunction lower the steals or is this on the plate for the final update?
                  What kinda steals were they? Passing lanes or on ball/strips? How often do you use the triple threat moves and pumpfakes.

                  I have noticed if you abuse pumpfakes these sliders will punish you, which is good IMO. You need to protect the ball at times too.
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                  • the_future420
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3086

                    #234
                    Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                    Originally posted by rmcguire
                    played a quick game at lunch had way too many steals with only 8 minute quarters I had 10 steals cpu had me(76ers) vs. cpu(Rockets) everything else looked fine

                    which sliders in conjunction lower the steals or is this on the plate for the final update?
                    Its definitely going to be looked at before the final update. I'm thinking about completely changing the steal dynamic as I'm not seeing enough on-ball steals, particulary for the user. It seems like it isn't possible to get a steal on a CPU big in the post if you cheat over with a guard. I'm always called for a reach-in.Perhaps I'm the only one seeing/trying this though?

                    I am going to look at lowering steal success considerably while raising steal appropriately to see what the results are.
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                    • the_future420
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3086

                      #235
                      Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                      Originally posted by JMan350Z
                      How do we fix this? I am thinking it PROBABLY has to do with the fact that we have "Contest Shots" tendency at 100...perhaps if we lowered it then the CPU would be more disciplined on pump fakes?

                      If it's not that, then perhaps it is On-Ball Defense (35) or Defensive Awareness (75).

                      If anyone wants to try messing with these it would be appreciated ...
                      I belive jumps on pump fakes come from the contest shot slider. I may look at lowering it. I am going to make sure it doesn't effect defense in the paint though. I dont want to change it to where you can go up down low and not get challenged.
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                      • rmcguire
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 412

                        #236
                        Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                        almost all of the steals were on ball strips it was me getting too many though...it seems as if the cpu was just fumbling the ball around.

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                        • Intelx
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 372

                          #237
                          Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                          Just played another game. It was alot better but man I am starting to think this game has some sort of built in comeback AI.

                          Contested shots and PIP remain a major issue for me but was much better this time around. I will post the stats in a few.

                          Intelx

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                          • the_future420
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3086

                            #238
                            Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                            Originally posted by rmcguire
                            almost all of the steals were on ball strips it was me getting too many though...it seems as if the cpu was just fumbling the ball around.
                            So you were getting on-ball steals or was it your CPU teammates? This is interesting because it is hell for me to manually get on-ball steals. My CPU teammates come up with a few though.
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                            • JHedges2
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4651

                              #239
                              Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                              Originally posted by the_future420
                              So you were getting on-ball steals or was it your CPU teammates? This is interesting because it is hell for me to manually get on-ball steals. My CPU teammates come up with a few though.
                              Yeah I HARDLY EVER get any on-ball steals either. Seems every time I even try for them, I get called for a reach in. I basically stopped going for them..
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                              • the_future420
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3086

                                #240
                                Re: the_future420's Simulation All-Star Sliders

                                Originally posted by JMan350Z
                                Yeah I HARDLY EVER get any on-ball steals either. Seems every time I even try for them, I get called for a reach in. I basically stopped going for them..
                                I'm gonna try to fix that in my final sliders. There should be more of a risk/reward when you go for manual on-ball steals. Right now its all risk.
                                It seems the CPU controlled players (my team and CPU's) get their fare share but I can't ever get them on my own.
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