NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

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sounds good!

i would suggest PJT´s Hardwood Hoops roster and PP sim collab roster "swagged out"
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...e-offline.html
i know he made his own sliders but its always better to have another opinion...

and as i know Sim-Worlds roster isnt up to date anymore and Take that 2k13 is not available on 2kshare

Thanks for the reply! Yea, I was looking at PJT's roster REAL hard the other day, so that's my #1 unless other people disagree.

[ezsmilez]

+1 for pjt's roster

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[Sundown]

For what it's worth, I've continued to tweak these sliders along with changing Steph Curry to play a bit more like himself and I haven't found a combination that I've liked.

I gave Steph a quick release shot form like he has in real life and now he absolutely destroys the CPU perimeter defense even with contest shots turned up and on-ball D at 60. Any higher tends to destroy the driving game.

I can shoot 3-4 3's often during first quarters which is even more inhuman than he already is. Not sure what else to do to keep the game playable with other three point shooters with slower releases. I could lower his 3 point rating (92 in my roster) but he is really one of the best 3 point shooters there's ever been (highest in 2k is 98). Maybe knock down his consistency but increase 3 point shooting to simulate that he might have merely a good game most games or might go off like he does occasionally? Knock down 3 point shooting overall while lowering shot release defense?

A big part of the problem is that the AI doesn't make adjustments needed to slow him in real life, like Denver and San Antonio did by trapping early or putting long athletic 2's and 3's on him.

[DENCIO]

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hi sir i used default roster and it looks good for you slider,thank for that slider sir.

[EccentricMeat]

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For what it's worth, I've continued to tweak these sliders along with changing Steph Curry to play a bit more like himself and I haven't found a combination that I've liked.

I gave Steph a quick release shot form like he has in real life and now he absolutely destroys the CPU perimeter defense even with contest shots turned up and on-ball D at 60. Any higher tends to destroy the driving game.

I can shoot 3-4 3's often during first quarters which is even more inhuman than he already is. Not sure what else to do to keep the game playable with other three point shooters with slower releases. I could lower his 3 point rating (92 in my roster) but he is really one of the best 3 point shooters there's ever been (highest in 2k is 98). Maybe knock down his consistency but increase 3 point shooting to simulate that he might have merely a good game most games or might go off like he does occasionally? Knock down 3 point shooting overall while lowering shot release defense?

A big part of the problem is that the AI doesn't make adjustments needed to slow him in real life, like Denver and San Antonio did by trapping early or putting long athletic 2's and 3's on him.

I would probably lower his consistency a LITTLE bit if you ALWAYS seem to make his shot. But don't lower it too much. I'm actually working on the defensive pressure and awareness, so I'll get back to you on that.

[JrueToTheGame]

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Thanks for the reply! Yea, I was looking at PJT's roster REAL hard the other day, so that's my #1 unless other people disagree.

I kinda disagree I think it should be between the OS collab swagged out roster (best on this site IMO) and PJT's

[Sundown]

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I would probably lower his consistency a LITTLE bit if you ALWAYS seem to make his shot. But don't lower it too much. I'm actually working on the defensive pressure and awareness, so I'll get back to you on that.

Cool deal. Would definitely like to hear your thought process on how you made your changes and how those two sliders work together, along with shot contest, shot defense, and whatever I've left out.

It's not so much his overall shooting percentage, but rather the volume he can put up with good accuracy because of opportunity. I could probably hit 8 to 10 every game which just doesn't happen. The Warriors would destroy teams if they could really have Steph jack up 5-6 every quarter as the backbone of their offense.

Basically I'm aiming for a realistic game-- 3-4 makes a game on 45% with around 9 attempts in the flow of the game, with some epic nights where he hits 8 or more. I'm just finding way too many opportunities to jack one up on good percentage which isn't something even he can keep up all game every game.

[Melbournelad]

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I need a little help from you guys before I start working on my next update. Basically, I need to know which XBOX roster(s) you would like me to center these sliders around. In the past, I've been working off of a lightly-modified version of the default 2k rosters (the only modifications were Vann's playbooks and some aesthetic/art changes), but I would like to know what the demand is for other, perhaps more customized rosters. Also, I would prefer for these rosters to be on 2k Share, as I don't have a flash drive and really don't feel like going out to get one. I am just fine with working on 2k Rosters if that's what you guys want, but I'm not afraid to branch out to other rosters.

As for PS3 users, I've heard that my sliders so far have worked with Bedwardsroy's roster, so I would recommend that you use that. From what I've heard, Bed's roster is the premier roster for the PS3, and I really think you would be missing out if you used any other roster.

And unfortunately for PC users, I have uninstalled my copy of 2k13. I was running out of space on my 240gb SSD (thanks to Skyrim and Fallout NV modding..), and since I hadn't played 2k13 in so long, it was the first to go. If I ever re-install the game, I'll try to get some testing done. But for now, my PC sliders are staying as-is. Again, I apologize for this and I will see what I can do in the future.

Alright, so let me know what you all think. Which Xbox roster(s) should I take a look at? Default or custom? And if custom, which one?

Edit: Alright, it looks like the choice of options for Xbox 360 rosters are between Sim-World, Take That 2K13, PJT's roster, Trifecta roster, or 2k Default. Let me know which of these you would most like me to use!

For PS3, I've only heard good things about Bed's roster, and they are apparently compatible with my sliders, so it looks like we're all good there!

You don't have the collab roster listed as an option? It is by far the most popular. 300+ pages of coments.

[louie dogs]

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I use bedwardsroy roster for ps3, great roster with excellent coaching profile, sorry for the bad english: -)

[Philip00]

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i have an important question: does the game option (game speed, player speed in ***) influnce the CPU vs CPU game? becsaue i scoring about 90-100 but in other games the score about 90-120 and often 110-120?

[EccentricMeat]

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I kinda disagree I think it should be between the OS collab swagged out roster (best on this site IMO) and PJT's

You don't have the collab roster listed as an option? It is by far the most popular. 300+ pages of coments.

I know that the Collab roster is the most popular, but I think it simply changes too much and requires a VERY specific slider set. I'm aiming to make a slider set that is focused around one roster, but is compatible (i.e. will work perfectly with minor tweaks) with other rosters. If I went with the OS Collab roster, I would have to completely re-do all of the sliders, and my final slider set would only be compatible with that one roster.

Just looking at Paul Pierce's slider set for the OS Collab roster, I see WAY too many 0s and 100s, which means that most (if not all) other rosters would not play well with those sliders.

i have an important question: does the game option (game speed, player speed in ***) influnce the CPU vs CPU game? becsaue i scoring about 90-100 but in other games the score about 90-120 and often 110-120?

I'm not sure, actually. I never watched a CPU vs. CPU game in Association. Or are you talking about the SIMULATED games in Association? If you're talking about simulated games, I've never heard that Game and Player Speed have any effect on them. I think that only the player attributes/tendencies and Coach Profiles have an effect on simulated games; Sliders do not have any effect.

[Melbournelad]

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I know that the Collab roster is the most popular, but I think it simply changes too much and requires a VERY specific slider set. I'm aiming to make a slider set that is focused around one roster, but is compatible (i.e. will work perfectly with minor tweaks) with other rosters. If I went with the OS Collab roster, I would have to completely re-do all of the sliders, and my final slider set would only be compatible with that one roster.

Just looking at Paul Pierce's slider set for the OS Collab roster, I see WAY too many 0s and 100s, which means that most (if not all) other rosters would not play well with those sliders.



I'm not sure, actually. I never watched a CPU vs. CPU game in Association. Or are you talking about the SIMULATED games in Association? If you're talking about simulated games, I've never heard that Game and Player Speed have any effect on them. I think that only the player attributes/tendencies and Coach Profiles have an effect on simulated games; Sliders do not have any effect.

Coach profiles effect sim? I thought they were just for gameplay and Total Sim Control was pretty much the coach profiles for sim?

[EccentricMeat]

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Coach profiles effect sim? I thought they were just for gameplay and Total Sim Control was pretty much the coach profiles for sim?

From what I've read, yes the Coach Profiles effect simulated games.

[N1kola101]

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I know that the Collab roster is the most popular, but I think it simply changes too much and requires a VERY specific slider set. I'm aiming to make a slider set that is focused around one roster, but is compatible (i.e. will work perfectly with minor tweaks) with other rosters. If I went with the OS Collab roster, I would have to completely re-do all of the sliders, and my final slider set would only be compatible with that one roster.

Just looking at Paul Pierce's slider set for the OS Collab roster, I see WAY too many 0s and 100s, which means that most (if not all) other rosters would not play well with those sliders.

maybe you could still do one for PP´s roster and just let your "old" sliders on your first post so people can see and use them for other rosters...and they also match perfectly with bedwardsroy´s roster, so ps3 users can still use them.
that would be my suggestion

[EccentricMeat]

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maybe you could still do one for PP´s roster and just let your "old" sliders on your first post so people can see and use them for other rosters...and they also match perfectly with bedwardsroy´s roster, so ps3 users can still use them.
that would be my suggestion

That's true, but right now I'm not a huge fan of the OS Sim Collab rosters. I've been using them for the last few days, and I just don't get any challenge out of them. I used the sliders posted on the roster's main page as a base, and it just seems WAY too easy for me to win. And seeing as I haven't played this game in over three months, I should NOT be winning the way I have been.

PP has On Ball Defense, Contest Shots, Play Passing Lanes, and Defensive Awareness all at 100 for both the User and CPU, but still the CPU defense is easy to beat on Superstar. I'll keep tweaking and see if I can make the CPU more competitive, but the fact that I'm constantly winning by 20+ points against teams like the Pacers doesn't make me feel too confident.