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  • NWGameDad
    Cat Daddy Games
    • Dec 2013
    • 1239

    #8416
    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

    Originally posted by Anchen
    Getting 4 MKG's and 0 crawford or hickson is perfectly possible in 100% random. I think you don't know what true randomness looks like. It is rarely EVEN or anything like even. If you have 3 MKG's you are just as likely to draft a 4th as that Hickson or Crawford you don't have.


    Anchen is correct. Your sample set is just so small you end up feeling like you're seeing patterns when it is just random. When we look across the millions of cards we give out each day then you get the expected distribution based on percentages. Go flip a coin 10 times. You should get 5 heads and 5 tails, right? I doubt it will work out that way though with just 10 flips. Try 100, a 1000, 10,000. As you get more and more the 50/50 you're supposed to get turns out to be closer to true vs. just your 10 flips alone.


    NWGameDad
    Senior Producer
    Cat Daddy Games
    NWGameDad
    Senior Producer
    Cat Daddy Games

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    • LakerPride
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 328

      #8417
      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

      Originally posted by ecovyoudug
      I been trynna get a dup crawford for the longest lol
      I had to let my third go after my deck was nearly full. I have the same problem with PF's for epics I have four epic pf's.
      USA/Bama/Laker Fan

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      • NWGameDad
        Cat Daddy Games
        • Dec 2013
        • 1239

        #8418
        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

        Originally posted by Anchen
        Fixed random mean they don't change the % based on other things. It is fixed in that it doesn't change based on the time of day, the number of rares you have, how many epics you have, or whatever else you want to throw at it. It is a fixed percentage they program in (but can be changed apparently, based on the stress test/epic event).

        Dissectng his post, he only mentions "Fixed" and "Not even" in reference to 2 things:

        Ratio/chance of Energy to rares. This is a fixed percentage in that it doesn't change, but is slanted toward Energy.

        The other was:
        "For example, a Team Pack will have a random chance to be Common -> Epic (again, not an even chance, but a fixed random percentage)"

        IE, commons are say 70%, Uncommon 20, Rare 8, Epic 2. Completely made up but what fixed but "uneven" percentages would be.

        Until he confirms I suppose there's nothing that says the above is right, but it is how I would interpret it from a developer's perspective.

        Again Anchen has it completely right (except the actual numbers). What he outlines though is what I was trying to say with "fixed" and "even".


        If any of you ever take a statistics class you will get an earful about "random".


        NWGameDad
        Senior Producer
        Cat Daddy Games
        NWGameDad
        Senior Producer
        Cat Daddy Games

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        • joerez
          Rookie
          • Jan 2014
          • 13

          #8419
          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

          Originally posted by ImDatNigga
          I'm liking that Kobe lol


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          Yeah Kobe is my best legend. Pro Westbrook is a little better though. And 107 max energy. Anyone know what the highest is?

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          • Hawkeye75
            Rookie
            • Feb 2014
            • 147

            #8420
            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

            Hey NW fix my account...it's incapable of drafting a legendary.

            Just kidding, thanks for the explanation in regards to card drops.


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            • Anchen
              Rookie
              • Dec 2013
              • 493

              #8421
              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

              Originally posted by joerez
              Yeah Kobe is my best legend. Pro Westbrook is a little better though. And 107 max energy. Anyone know what the highest is?

              For now, 311 on one of the Magic Johnson (forget if it is the 87 or 91) cards lol. Doesn't seem right but it is there. Might be an error.

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              • Hawkeye75
                Rookie
                • Feb 2014
                • 147

                #8422
                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                I know there was supposed to be an issue with stats being wrong with Magic but I'm noticing a problem with Bill Russel's defense.

                Mine is 500 even but I have noticed quite a few that are at 501. I'm surprised how often I have lost games do to this. Probably since he is coveted for his high defensive value.


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                • imd1ne
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 383

                  #8423
                  re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                  Originally posted by Anchen
                  As stated in his posted, it's actually:

                  25 cards on the board. 1 is a reset, either an energy or rare. I'm not even sure it is known which it is until you hit it. For that matter, the entire board might not mean anything technically, it is just sending data to the server and asking for what this card is each time (most likely).

                  We'll say the board is distributed 18 commons, 6 uncommons, 1 "reset".

                  Once you hit your reset, you have a 80% chance of energy, 20% of a "rare".

                  Ok, you roll a 18 on your 100 sided die, and now you have a rare.

                  Next is it a rare, epic, or legendary?

                  We'll go with this:
                  90% rare
                  9% epic
                  1% legendary

                  Let's present those as a 100 sided die roll. 1-90 = rare, 91=99 = epic, 100 = legendary.

                  You roll a 92. Congrats, you have an epic. What is your epic?

                  There is X number of epics (I don't know the number). Random number generator rolls a X sided die. Congrats, this is your (Marcin Gortat) Congratulations!

                  That's pretty much exactly how the system works , give or take a few % points since we are guessing that, good example , good job.


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                  • Anchen
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 493

                    #8424
                    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                    Originally posted by Hawkeye75
                    I know there was supposed to be an issue with stats being wrong with Magic but I'm noticing a problem with Bill Russel's defense.

                    Mine is 500 even but I have noticed quite a few that are at 501. I'm surprised how often I have lost games do to this. Probably since he is coveted for his high defensive value.


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                    I don't think this is an issue with Magic (where his stats were flat out wrong that led to his card having 166 BC maxed) but the "rounding error" bug that we've been talking about. I think on page 817 or so NWGameDad said it was among their things they plan to fix (next to Rival rewards and season matchmaking). Basically in summary, when you are leveling your card, depending how often you level the card, a number might wind up rounding the wrong way and result in 1-3 points of difference in a few stats. Hopefully that all gets fixed though.
                    Last edited by Anchen; 02-20-2014, 12:29 AM. Reason: Originally wrote page 718. Should be 817.

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                    • Chyeaaah
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 227

                      #8425
                      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                      Originally posted by m0nst3r42


                      fellow member from this forum in my season.. lol looks like i won't be winning.
                      Lol i was just about to post a picture on this season.
                      Game 1 it was me 2200/2400/2300/2400 against a guy 400/500/600/500. No joke. Why is he in this season zzzz
                      IGN: Chyeaaah
                      Favorite Team: Orlando Magic
                      MVP: Rivals Kobe

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                      • ecovyoudug
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 834

                        #8426
                        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                        Originally posted by joerez
                        Failed in previous attempt to post team pic. Try again.

                        Russie not starting?
                        Allen Iverson THE GOAT
                        Favorite Teams:
                        - Duke Blue Devils
                        - Philadephia 76ers
                        - Los Angeles Rams

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                        • Hawkeye75
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 147

                          #8427
                          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                          Originally posted by Anchen
                          I don't think this is an issue with Magic (where his stats were flat out wrong that led to his card having 166 BC maxed) but the "rounding error" bug that we've been talking about. I think on page 718 or so NWGameDad said it was among their things they plan to fix (next to Rival rewards and season matchmaking). Basically in summary, when you are leveling your card, depending how often you level the card, a number might wind up rounding the wrong way and result in 1-3 points of difference in a few stats. Hopefully that all gets fixed though.

                          Ahh...thanks for the info Anchen.


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                          • Chyeaaah
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 227

                            #8428
                            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                            Originally posted by m0nst3r42


                            fellow member from this forum in my season.. lol looks like i won't be winning.
                            And fwiw i dont have the best lineup. Mattyreyrey has higher stats than me so I most likely will tank this season.
                            IGN: Chyeaaah
                            Favorite Team: Orlando Magic
                            MVP: Rivals Kobe

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                            • kaykay4se7en
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 129

                              #8429
                              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                              Originally posted by Anchen
                              As stated in his posted, it's actually:

                              25 cards on the board. 1 is a reset, either an energy or rare. I'm not even sure it is known which it is until you hit it. For that matter, the entire board might not mean anything technically, it is just sending data to the server and asking for what this card is each time (most likely).

                              We'll say the board is distributed 18 commons, 6 uncommons, 1 "reset".

                              Once you hit your reset, you have a 80% chance of energy, 20% of a "rare".

                              Ok, you roll a 18 on your 100 sided die, and now you have a rare.

                              Next is it a rare, epic, or legendary?

                              We'll go with this:
                              90% rare
                              9% epic
                              1% legendary

                              Let's present those as a 100 sided die roll. 1-90 = rare, 91=99 = epic, 100 = legendary.

                              You roll a 92. Congrats, you have an epic. What is your epic?

                              There is X number of epics (I don't know the number). Random number generator rolls a X sided die. Congrats, this is your (Marcin Gortat) Congratulations!

                              Right! That def makes sense! I know the server transmits what card to give out but what I wanna know is, are there rares/epics/legendaries that are more "common" than others in the same rarity class?

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                              • Benitezj10
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 1045

                                #8430
                                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                                Originally posted by NWGameDad
                                Again Anchen has it completely right (except the actual numbers). What he outlines though is what I was trying to say with "fixed" and "even".


                                If any of you ever take a statistics class you will get an earful about "random".


                                NWGameDad
                                Senior Producer
                                Cat Daddy Games

                                Any thoughts of a market or trading system? A market like selling card to get more draft picks or something like that and a trade system where players can trade cards to a server not human and human trades I think that could break the game but human CPU trades could be interesting.

                                Also are the percentage numbers in the quick game draft board the same as the rivalry draft board? I got like 5 epics almost one a day during the event and only have drafted one epic in the weeks of playing quick games.

                                Will we ever see new cards? New players added from the past or something like that. I know you guys just added the rivalry cards but I think more cards would be nice to see.

                                Last question. Has there been any talk of when we will see another increase in epic or legendary drops in quick games in the near future like we saw on 2/3/14. The myteam console players got a lot of love during all star weekend but nothing was done to the mobile side.


                                Thank you for being active in this forum and keep up the good work hopefully you have time to answer me


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