DNA is $9.99 on PSN (For used/rented copies)

[uxstat]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Haha... only EA folks.

[RubenDouglas]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Again, EA is a business. They want people to buy their game from them, not second hand purchases from Gamestop, Blockbuster (because normally people that rent keep the game from there), Gamefly, etc.

You can''t possibly expect me to believe that if you ran a business you would want people to buy your product at a discount from other places.

we dont disagree with that at all. we can still HATE it as long as we are the consumers, watching out for other consumers. its a money grab move that does nothing to help us and only hurts us in the longrun. unless you (not specifically you) are on EA's payroll, its a bad move, that i feel would have no ill effects on the wellbeing of the game if it were free. its not like theyd invest more into nba lives budget with this and we all are happy. that doesnt and wont happen. we know that

[MassNole]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Again, EA is a business. They want people to buy their game from them, not second hand purchases from Gamestop, Blockbuster (because normally people that rent keep the game from there), Gamefly, etc.

You can''t possibly expect me to believe that if you ran a business you would want people to buy your product at a discount from other places.

So basically EA is circumventing the system and making sure they get their take on used sales of the game by deactivating it's most touted features unless you pay them for it. This is a major change in the industry and it is disgusting. It hasn't been "just business" until they came up with this concept. Even if it was common place in other genres, it hasn't been in the sports genre.

[Millennium]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Alright, I guess this is the way I will state it -

Everyone always complains about Gamestop and how they are ripping people off.

Example

What you guys aren't understanding is that this is the first step to ending that. Do you understand that if developers lock features to the new games so people who buy them used don't get them without an extra cost, it will drive down the price of used games. Someone earlier in this thread said if you buy a game new, then trade it in a week later, you get less than half price back.

Now, let's say you trade it in for $30. Gamestop puts it back on the shelf for $55. And the game sits there for months because everyone knows if they get it used, they will have to pay the extra $20. So, they buy it new. Another sale for EA? Yes. But it's also another shot into the wallet of Gamestop.

Eventually, if enough developers do this, Gamestop (and stores like it), is forced to lower the price of their used games. Granted, that makes the trade-in values lower, and that will eventually make people not trade games in there. Welcome to cutting down the used game sales and the "rip-off".

That is the way I see it. I know a lot of you see it as "EA getting their dime", but I truly believe this is a direct shot at the used game retailers. They could have just as easily made it a paid DLC off the bat.

[infamousD]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I think people are missing the whole point behind the used game thing. Yeah EA isn't making any money of the used game sale but they did make the initial sale. But the whole reason why a game becomes a used one is because the original customer felt that in one way or another the game that they purchased wasn't worth the money. You ever wonder why Live always has twice as many used copies on the shelf than 2K?? Or why games like Gears of War or GTA don't have hardly any used copies?? It's because they make a quality game and the customers feel like its worth their money. Most of the people who buy used games buy them because they don't know if the game is worth the full money for it. If EA made a better game then there would be less used copies out there.

Secondly EA has sold MILLIONS on copies of NBA live do you actually think the couple of thousand of used copies have hurt their bottom line. The fact is they outsell 2K every year. If they made the game of that quality they would sell even more and less people would get rid of it.

Lastly people are missing the point of how this affects the people that rent the game. EA has already made their money off these copies. Blockbuster, Gamefly, and all the other rental companies PURCHASED THEIR COPIES FROM EA. Thats how they work. They buy the games then rent them out. So they aren't losing any money there. People are trying out their game and fetures to determine if they like it or not. Now they can't access the NUMBER ONE SELLING POINT OF THE GAME. That is wrong any way you slice it. Maybe the renter wants to hold the game for a week or two from Gamefly and see how the DNA is handled. Now he can't and they only way he can find out is he he goes and gives EA 60 bucks or buy the DNA for 20.

lol If you wanted to pick a game as a example gta was a bad choice my man I work at Gamestop and you would be surprise how many people traded in gta and even worse metal gear solid just after 2 months of there release. Im mean 20 bucks is alittle to much $ 5 or $10 but 20, anyway the people who rent will still feel the effects of DNA team dna is already inputed in the game they just wont get the updates, so its not like there not gonna know how it works or would it matter if your only gonna have the game for a coupe of days or week. And people forget used copies especially early sports games are usually 54.99 + tax not a big difference from 60 and its not like you gonna find the game used for 40 bucks especially in the early months of the game release.
I actually had a bigger issue with konami charging people 7 dollars just to make another character on Metal Gear Solid, and extra on other stuff. Sports games last longer and the dna is pretty deep but the price is to high. Any way half of you have said your not buying the game but yet your complaing bout it for what reason?
You can easily trading in a game or DVD and buy a new copy any way.

[TheBadazz]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I would pay something, but 1600 MS points? Come on!

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I can't believe this is still going on. It's simple, buy the game new, pay nothing. Buy it used, and the DNA costs $20.

From using the DNA feature for a few days now, I can say it's worth it's weight in gold. I've had the game since Friday, there have already been 4 DNA updates. Judging by all the info this DNA system provides, I know EA's not lying when they say it's not cheap to use. They didn't hire some lackey to play roster editor and update once a month, this is a up to the minute system that updates everything as it goes on.

As it is now, I can go back and replay games from last season, based on the already quick updates, you will be able to play games as they basically end in the real NBA. Genius system, and if I even did buy it used, I'd pay the $20 for it.

[bamalam]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I can't believe this is still going on. It's simple, buy the game new, pay nothing. Buy it used, and the DNA costs $20.

From using the DNA feature for a few days now, I can say it's worth it's weight in gold. I've had the game since Friday, there have already been 4 DNA updates. Judging by all the info this DNA system provides, I know EA's not lying when they say it's not cheap to use. They didn't hire some lackey to play roster editor and update once a month, this is a up to the minute system that updates everything as it goes on.

As it is now, I can go back and replay games from last season, based on the already quick updates, you will be able to play games as they basically end in the real NBA. Genius system, and if I even did buy it used, I'd pay the $20 for it.

this makes me question the dna actually. what info is the update being based on if you already got 4? there are no new stats since friday.

[Dynamite]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Alright, I guess this is the way I will state it -

Everyone always complains about Gamestop and how they are ripping people off.

Example

What you guys aren't understanding is that this is the first step to ending that. Do you understand that if developers lock features to the new games so people who buy them used don't get them without an extra cost, it will drive down the price of used games. Someone earlier in this thread said if you buy a game new, then trade it in a week later, you get less than half price back.

Now, let's say you trade it in for $30. Gamestop puts it back on the shelf for $55. And the game sits there for months because everyone knows if they get it used, they will have to pay the extra $20. So, they buy it new. Another sale for EA? Yes. But it's also another shot into the wallet of Gamestop.

Eventually, if enough developers do this, Gamestop (and stores like it), is forced to lower the price of their used games. Granted, that makes the trade-in values lower, and that will eventually make people not trade games in there. Welcome to cutting down the used game sales and the "rip-off".

That is the way I see it. I know a lot of you see it as "EA getting their dime", but I truly believe this is a direct shot at the used game retailers. They could have just as easily made it a paid DLC off the bat.

Or, and this is way more likely, the big resellers will stop accepting NBA Live just like they don't accept Guitar Hero bundles. Or even more appropriate, like they don't accept PC games. Hmm, like a PC game where you need the PC Key to activate the game, the code being gone then means the game is incomplete, the ads and the box will prominently display a feature that is not in the game.

This isn't going to drive down used sales at all, in fact, it's just going to limit the people wishing to trade the games in. How naïve does one have to be to insinuate that instituting DRM in one game will start a trend that will directly impact the biggest game retailer in the world?

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

this makes me question the dna actually. what info is the update being based on if you already got 4? there are no new stats since friday.

Well, the first one gave me the offseason.

Looked like 2 and 3 were just the DNA thing updating info that wasn't fully updated yet.

The 4th was an update to tendencies.

[Slymm]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

this makes me question the dna actually. what info is the update being based on if you already got 4? there are no new stats since friday.

Pre Season has started bruh

[DC]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I wonder if non-internet people are aware of this. THEY are the ones in danger

[PrettyT11]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

Pre Season has started bruh

It just started tonight and it was just two games. So none of those 4 updates would apply to those games seeing as how they happened tonight and he got updated before the games were played.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

I wonder if non-internet people are aware of this. THEY are the ones in danger

my question is, how many people would buy a used copy at $55 vs a brand new copy at $60? That's just stupid. Really it sucks for renters and ebayers.

[Slymm]

Re: DNA is $19.99 on PSN (For used copies)

It just started tonight and it was just two games. So none of those 4 updates would apply to those games seeing as how they happened tonight and he got updated before the games were played.

My bad man... I said pre-season but I meant training camp. I'm assuming they are updating the injuries and cuts that have been happening so far, in addition to any scouting reports that they may have compiled since camps have begun.