Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

**Teebone21** · 06-14-2009, 06:51 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Jonesy

Kinda makes it hard to have a shot stick when the right stick is used for dribble moves doesn't it?

they changed the control scheme. right stick wont be dribble moves i think. You guys forget that they have TOTALLY changed the game this year

**Teebone21** · 06-14-2009, 06:53 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by stizz

Just because they say "one button", it doesn't mean "one button plus shot stick".

And if they want to get the "2k crowd" all they have to do is make a decent sim game(which they're not far from), not steal everything that 2k has.

well since ALOT more people play 2k than live they have to make the transition easier. The 2 button system and right stick dribbling is for the old live that doesnt sell. This is the NEW and IMPROVED live 10. Even the Dev says people dont like the 2 button system. I doesnt give you any choices like th shotstick does. I think you guys just like the simple controls rather than the advanced shot stick control

**Teebone21** · 06-14-2009, 06:58 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

btw the majority of the 2k crowd dont like simulation ball. have you played a online game lately.

**stizz** · 06-14-2009, 07:01 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Teebone21

well since ALOT more people play 2k than live they have to make the transition easier. The 2 button system and right stick dribbling is for the old live that doesnt sell. This is the NEW and IMPROVED live 10. Even the Dev says people dont like the 2 button system. I doesnt give you any choices like th shotstick does. I think you guys just like the simple controlsrather than the advanced shot stick control

The reason why more people played 2k was because of the quality of the game. Everyone knows the most recent Live games were junk and that's why they bought 2k, not because of the shotstick.

Originally posted by Teebone21

btw the majority of the 2k crowd dont like simulation ball. have you played a online game lately.

I've never played a sports game online.

**Teebone21** · 06-14-2009, 07:13 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by stizz

The reason why more people played 2k was because of the quality of the game. Everyone knows the most recent Live games were junk and that's why they bought 2k, not because of the shotstick.

well as a long time 2k player i have live 08 and 09 and the 2 button system doent compare to the shotstick. 2button seems more simplified for easy use. Shot stick is way more advanced in terms of choosing dunk types, layup types, post moves. I can see why nba live people like the simple system its time for a change. may live people use the ALternate A button config on 2k for dribbling cause they dont try to learn the moves.

**stizz** · 06-14-2009, 07:22 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Teebone21

well as a long time 2k player i have live 08 and 09 and the 2 button system doent compare to the shotstick. 2button seems more simplified for easy use. Shot stick is way more advanced in terms of choosing dunk types, layup types, post moves. I can see why nba live people like the simple system its time for a change. may live people use the ALternate A button config on 2k for dribbling cause they dont try to learn the moves.

I don't own any Live game. I do however have 2k7, 2k8 and 2k9, and I play with the default configs.

I'm just wondering, it seems as though you want Live to become exactly the same as 2k. So what things do you like that Live has?

**bigeastbumrush** · 06-14-2009, 09:07 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Teebone21

wow making you learn a new shot system will keep your from buying the game. bottom line is its to simplifed and people want something different. If you are restricted to only playing playing live and havent seen the advantagesto the shot stick i feel bad for you

Never said I wasn't getting the game.

I said I have a hard time "buying into" this idea.

**Jamin23** · 06-14-2009, 09:13 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

As long as the right animations trigger at the right moment I am fine with it.

**NoTiCe_O** · 06-14-2009, 09:49 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Beluba said he wouldn't have changed it if it didn't give you more control, whats everyone complaining about, you haven't even heard one detail about it. It could be the best thing to happen to Live for all we know

**Pared** · 06-15-2009, 08:50 AM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Teebone21

btw the majority of the online sports gaming crowd dont like simulation ball. have you played ANY SPORTS GAME online lately.

That sounds about right.

**HoosierDaddy** · 06-15-2009, 09:57 AM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Pared

That sounds about right.

I don't necessarily agree with that. It's because we've never really had that type of sim game provided online or offline for that matter. If Live can provide this to all of us, I think the majority of us would be ecstatic to have it. Obviously.

**Pared** · 06-15-2009, 10:07 AM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

It doesn't matter what sport you're talking about, ranked online play is a win at all costs competition.

You can't code for that sort of thing. You can try, but guys will always find a way and people will always complain of their play. Even happens in The Show.

**jfsolo** · 06-15-2009, 02:10 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by Pared

It doesn't matter what sport you're talking about, ranked online play is a win at all costs competition.

You can't code for that sort of thing. You can try, but guys will always find a way and people will always complain of their play. Even happens in The Show.

People will definitely always try to "game the game", but there are a few things that developers can do to drastically cut down on the nonsensical play.

Three crucial things that can be done are, implementing realistic fatigue, realistic injury potential and realistic dribbling in traffic or against pressure.

**Pared** · 06-15-2009, 02:18 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Basically, make the game real.

**RayAP19** · 06-15-2009, 02:49 PM

Re: Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

Originally posted by jfsolo

People will definitely always try to "game the game", but there are a few things that developers can do to drastically cut down on the nonsensical play.

Three crucial things that can be done are, implementing realistic fatigue, realistic injury potential and realistic dribbling in traffic or against pressure.

But then if you do that, people will still complain.

Like for example, if someone scored tried to score all their points on you with Kobe but he got too tired, they'd say "But Kobe scored 81 and being tired didn't make him shoot worse!"

Or if someone tried to constantly drive with LeBron James, but got stripped when they tried to force themselves into crowds, they'd say "But LeBron gets double-/triple-teamed all the time and doesn't lose the ball this much!"

Lose-lose situation basically

Bad News: '10 to only have 1 shot button for layups, dunks, jumpshots

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