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  • JohnDoe8865
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    • Jul 2002
    • 9607

    #91
    Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

    I'd love to see dynasty sim stats tweaked similar to what Josh Looman has said that he did in patch #2 for Madden.
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    • inkpimp007
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      • Aug 2009
      • 167

      #92
      Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

      For me the rebounding issue is a must Fix. The rebounding is just off, leans to much toward the CPU. The AI sometimes has no idea where the ball is so my teammates seem to just stand around to often, they just don't seem to understand how to box out.

      The big one is the warping to the ball. there has been times i've had 3 guys boxing out to only have the CPU some how come up with the rock. This just leaves me feeling cheated wether I when or lose. Speaking of losing I'm 3 - 25 on All-Star 12min qrts. Damn i just can't win but the game is fun.


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      • Court_vision
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 8290

        #93
        Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

        Originally posted by inkpimp007
        For me the rebounding issue is a must Fix. The rebounding is just off, leans to much toward the CPU. The AI sometimes has no idea where the ball is so my teammates seem to just stand around to often, they just don't seem to understand how to box out.

        The big one is the warping to the ball. there has been times i've had 3 guys boxing out to only have the CPU some how come up with the rock. This just leaves me feeling cheated wether I when or lose. Speaking of losing I'm 3 - 25 on All-Star 12min qrts. Damn i just can't win but the game is fun.



        Great pics...really shows the flaws in rebounding / the ball warping to a player regardless of position or skill.

        I won a game in the 'other' basketball series the other night based purely on grabbing a last second rebound...and it was perfect. The other game has things like rebounding done perfectly. Live is just so far behind in rebounding that it's ridiculous. I've said this a lot of times, but maybe your pics will show it better than my words. LIVE will only be a 'SIM' when stuff like rebounding, fastbreaks, hustle, blocks etc etc are finally addressed.

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        • Haval93
          Pro
          • Jan 2008
          • 512

          #94
          Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

          Forget to post but Foward Leaners have been added in the patch.

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          • dave374
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 1928

            #95
            Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

            Originally posted by Court_vision
            Why do I care? I don't overly care to be honest...except that I've paid $180 US for the past 3 NBA Lives (08, 09 and 10) and there's a lot of problems remaining right back to 08.
            If you paid for Live 08, you have no one to blame but yourself.
            That would be like buying Lehman Brothers stock the day after it collapsed.

            Live 09 was OK. I had fun with it.

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #96
              Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

              Inkpimp....absolutely...

              Rebound logic goes out of the window on higher levels

              EDIT: Case in point...my video didnt upload for some reason...but I just had Anthony Carter grab a rebound while behind Landry, Scola, and Budinger...more like "through" Budinger...crazy man
              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 10-21-2009, 01:29 AM.

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              • Court_vision
                Banned
                • Oct 2002
                • 8290

                #97
                Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                Originally posted by dave374
                If you paid for Live 08, you have no one to blame but yourself.
                That would be like buying Lehman Brothers stock the day after it collapsed.

                Live 09 was OK. I had fun with it.
                LOL


                I even paid full price for LIVE 06.....and, wait for it man...I bought LIVE 07. I am one of the 317 people alive who can say that

                If you played all of them you'd know that the game has tonnes...and i mean tonnes...of problems that date back to those games. Rebounding, blocks, fast breaks, cpu players stepping out of bounds, cpu players shooting from behind the backboard...these things aren't new, they've been there for years.

                I love what the new team have done...but they've had the game now for two releases and I 'did' expect a lot of those things to have been fixed by now. I don't think it's "that" unreasonable by this stage.

                I am enjoying the game a lot. 2010 is, by far, my favourite season to date for both games. However, I feel like LIVE has overlooked a lot of things / left out a lot of things. More importantly, not bothered to fix a lot of bugs. I was here last year when the EA crew said all these things would be "fixed for 10".

                As I said...Beluba got to work on the patch early and I'd be suprised if the patch isn't a major step forward. Let's see

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                • Court_vision
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 8290

                  #98
                  Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  Inkpimp....absolutely...

                  Rebound logic goes out of the window on higher levels

                  EDIT: Case in point...my video didnt upload for some reason...but I just had Anthony Carter grab a rebound while behind Landry, Scola, and Budinger...more like "through" Budinger...crazy man
                  In the demo, you could grab ORB with D-Fish right over the back of Dwight Howard.

                  They've known about the problem for ages...which is why I am hopeful it's going to be fixed.

                  I seem to be the only one here who has a little bit of faith that they'll release a killer patch. Too many fellas have already jumped in with the standard "but this game is so much fun, who cares what's broken" lines...kind of crazy.

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                  • randombrother
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1275

                    #99
                    Re: The patch - what\'s been confirmed?

                    Originally posted by Court_vision
                    In the demo, you could grab ORB with D-Fish right over the back of Dwight Howard.

                    They\'ve known about the problem for ages...which is why I am hopeful it\'s going to be fixed.

                    I seem to be the only one here who has a little bit of faith that they\'ll release a killer patch. Too many fellas have already jumped in with the standard \"but this game is so much fun, who cares what\'s broken\" lines...kind of crazy.
                    I do not think this will be addressed in this upcoming patch. The boards come out with great numbers in the post game stats and , from what I have seen, everyone gets their fair share of getting shafted on the boards which pretty much evens out during the course of the game. Which is why I don\'t think it is going to be addressed. To get this right they would need to add some over the back fouls, loose ball fouls, change positioning while the play is running before even getting to the rebound portion of it. Alot would have to be changed for this to be implemented.

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                    • TheMaskOfZero
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6

                      #100
                      Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                      Is there any truth to the developers attempting to fix the simulated statistics in Dynasty Mode?

                      It's probably been said before (but I don't read the forums much) but there seems to be a strong correlation between high fouls and low minutes for starters. If you sim a game and look at the a player who should get around 35mpg and see he got 15 or 20, 9/10 times it will be because he picked up 5 quick fouls.

                      I can't really explain the horrible generated statistics (such as Dwight Howard averaging 10ppg in 30+ minutes) or Steve Nash/Deron Williams averaging 4-6apg in 30+ minutes but if it CAN be addressed, then it needs to be.

                      Dynasty Mode is 99% of the game for me. It's basically all I enjoy playing. Horrible simulation statistics are absolutely killing a really good-looking and well-playing game.

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                      • sportskid84
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 367

                        #101
                        Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                        Originally posted by inkpimp007
                        For me the rebounding issue is a must Fix. The rebounding is just off, leans to much toward the CPU. The AI sometimes has no idea where the ball is so my teammates seem to just stand around to often, they just don't seem to understand how to box out.

                        The big one is the warping to the ball. there has been times i've had 3 guys boxing out to only have the CPU some how come up with the rock. This just leaves me feeling cheated wether I when or lose. Speaking of losing I'm 3 - 25 on All-Star 12min qrts. Damn i just can't win but the game is fun.


                        Yes your right i hate that,it seems like my teammates just stand there and not crash the boards

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                        • oOausarOo
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 822

                          #102
                          Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                          When people are talking about rebounding problems they only mean against the CPU on allstar or superstar right?

                          There are a few awkward looking situations, but fundamentally I think the rebounding is solid in Live. Weird things have always happen in sports games from NHL Hockey to basketball or football against the cpu on the tougher difficulty levels.

                          User v. user the rebounding is solid, if anything centers probably rebound a little too well.

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #103
                            Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                            At this point, this thread is all over the place

                            It has absolutely nothing to do with the patch at all

                            matter of fact, there was a long sticky sitting there for awhile, and if you didnt contribute while the devs were looking into it, then its your own fault

                            At this point going on about all the flaws in the game in the name of a patch is a weak disguise. This thread is so off topic its not funny.

                            Tell you what you can do, post in the wishlist thread, post in the ask the devs sticky, send them a PM but going on with comparisons, and anything that could fall under any other category like I posted above and including bugs and glitches makes me feel this thread should be locked

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                            • moemoe24
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                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1996

                              #104
                              Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                              Originally posted by Court_vision
                              Just a gut instinct...but I think they'll come up with something big for the patch.

                              Main reason = the demo was out very early this season and Beluba was already asking for patch ideas a month before the main game was released.

                              There's clearly issues with the game...so I'll be both surprised and dissapointed if EA don't address them with the patch.

                              Here's hoping anyway
                              OK OK, I'm gonna get excited one more time for a patch.... If this one sucks then I will never trust them again. Seriously though, this game is SO close to being one of the best sports games I've ever played.....a good patch would just be the icing on the cake for me.

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #105
                                Re: The patch - what's been confirmed?

                                Any ETA on this yet? Can't wait to get back into this one.
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