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  • PlyrzNumber1
    Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 435

    #481
    Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

    To me its not so much about the severity of the "bug" or "glitch".

    its the fact that you dish out your hard earned money for something thats broken and the company takes no responsibility for it. its about making a stand as a consumer, and letting them know with your wallet thats your not satisfied with a rushed/broken product.

    This happened with Madden, even after they knew about the draft class problem, they still didn't release a statement or recall the games...people were still buying broken games, and it was up to the consumer to send in there page and get a working game. but still, even with great competition, EA dominates sales-wise because consumers dont make a stand. its un-excusable for this problem to occur, for those that want a realestic dynasty mode, the FA period is the most important part of the dynasty, keeping the league balance and watching superstars progress. from everything ive been reading on this issue (thank god somebody spoke up so i wouldn't again get suckered into dishing out $50 for another broken EA product) superstar players skip around from team to team signing for the league minimum, in some cases there can be 2-3 superstars sitting in the FA pool without getting signed all season. thats not a greatly improved dynasty as they promised, thats a broken dynasty. and i doubt I.D. or ESPN will be stupid enough to release there product with this kinda bug. its sad because growing up, i was loyal to EA, but with every release like this, i grow more and more sour towards them. i had one of those ncaa'2003 copies that froze on load screens and in games....and all players ratings went to "36" upon editing anybody's ratings... a madden 2004 copy that couldn't import draft class (had to wait 6 weeks to go to my next season in my franchise, now this?) luckily people found this quick.

    Thanks to those about getting the word out. EA doesn't deserve our money for a broken game.

    you'd think they'd learn from there mistakes over the last 2 years on other releases.

    its sad because they got loyalists like somiss and others who will spend multiple hrs on a message board trying to work around the problem, and do some tedious-time consuming, roster editing after every season to keep the league balance....but on the other hand saying its no big deal, when that could of been time playing the game. (i used to be the same way)

    when it all comes down to it, to each their own.

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    • Perceptor
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4364

      #482
      Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

      I bought the game after reading Fossen's post that the FA bug wasn't as bad. If you think about it, Madden 2003 had the same issue with teams cutting stars for cap reasons. I remember the Rams released Marshall Faulk and I signed him...I am just thankful that there's a chance that free agency will be a help to me and not a hindrance this time. Like I said before - take the good with the bad

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      • Perceptor
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4364

        #483
        Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

        I bought the game after reading Fossen's post that the FA bug wasn't as bad. If you think about it, Madden 2003 had the same issue with teams cutting stars for cap reasons. I remember the Rams released Marshall Faulk and I signed him...I am just thankful that there's a chance that free agency will be a help to me and not a hindrance this time. Like I said before - take the good with the bad

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        • Perceptor
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 4364

          #484
          Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

          I bought the game after reading Fossen's post that the FA bug wasn't as bad. If you think about it, Madden 2003 had the same issue with teams cutting stars for cap reasons. I remember the Rams released Marshall Faulk and I signed him...I am just thankful that there's a chance that free agency will be a help to me and not a hindrance this time. Like I said before - take the good with the bad

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          • DrEvil1996
            Rookie
            • Aug 2002
            • 224

            #485
            Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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            PlyrzNumber1 said:

            its the fact that you dish out your hard earned money for something thats broken and the company takes no responsibility for it. its about making a stand as a consumer, and letting them know with your wallet thats your not satisfied with a rushed/broken product.

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            The thing people are missing here is that this doesn't have to do with a bug or the game being broken. We have had essentially the same (or at least similar) free agency problems in the last few Live games. They either can't fix it or don't want to at this point. It is odd to see so many people surprised about this, I never heard they were gonna change the way it worked so I didn't expect it to change.

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            • DrEvil1996
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 224

              #486
              Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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              PlyrzNumber1 said:

              its the fact that you dish out your hard earned money for something thats broken and the company takes no responsibility for it. its about making a stand as a consumer, and letting them know with your wallet thats your not satisfied with a rushed/broken product.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              The thing people are missing here is that this doesn't have to do with a bug or the game being broken. We have had essentially the same (or at least similar) free agency problems in the last few Live games. They either can't fix it or don't want to at this point. It is odd to see so many people surprised about this, I never heard they were gonna change the way it worked so I didn't expect it to change.

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              • DrEvil1996
                Rookie
                • Aug 2002
                • 224

                #487
                Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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                PlyrzNumber1 said:

                its the fact that you dish out your hard earned money for something thats broken and the company takes no responsibility for it. its about making a stand as a consumer, and letting them know with your wallet thats your not satisfied with a rushed/broken product.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                The thing people are missing here is that this doesn't have to do with a bug or the game being broken. We have had essentially the same (or at least similar) free agency problems in the last few Live games. They either can't fix it or don't want to at this point. It is odd to see so many people surprised about this, I never heard they were gonna change the way it worked so I didn't expect it to change.

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                • Badgun
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2638

                  #488
                  Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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                  SoMiss2000 said:
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                  Badgun said:
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                  SoMiss2000 said:
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                  Mossfan8480 said:
                  Ok I just checked it out. WHat I did was go to fre agency and then press start. All big ticker players stayed with their respective teams except K Mart and AI. AI went to Portland(LOL good fit with Wallace) and K Mart got sined after 3 games to Portland as well LOL....I guess he wants a championship

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> From what I've simmed, it isn't so bad afterall. And for anyone who responds saying I'm trying to downplay it, what's it to you? Sorry guys, but lately I'm getting attacked and accused of defending one specific game when i usually buy them all no thanks to OS. I could never intend on buying a game until I come here. I'm weak.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I don't think you're getting attacked for defending a game, I think it's more for your stinking attitude and how rude you come across to everyone else.

                  Lighten up, Francis!

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Who's francis? No, you're mistaken. If you go back and read, you'd see that I was trying to think of a solution to problem. You then go on your little rant and call us EA Drones. You basically called us stupid for buying the game even with this bug. I responded by basically saying it's no concern to you if you're not buying Live. You harped on that fact there are other games coming out and I told you that I had already paid for ESPN as well. I just don't understand how people who now have no interest in Live, can criticize people who look past the bug and still spend THEIR OWN MONEY. It would be different if I asked you to borrow $50. Go back and read your posts and then you'll see who had the stinking attitude. No hard feelings man!

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I never called anyone stupid, that's not my style. I basically said that if people would start speaking with their wallet, that maybe, just maybe EA might wake up and do some QA before they ship their game.

                  I could care less how you guys spend your money, but it just seems kind of strange to have to try and make a broken game work when there are two more fine games coming out within a few weeks.

                  Personally, I'm not that starved for a basketball game that I can't wait for ESPN or Inside Drive.

                  Oh and I did play NBA Live tonight on the Xbox and the PS2. I thought it was ok, but I thought the graphics were awful compared to the other two games coming out.

                  Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                  Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.
                  No, I didn't draft Grossman on my fantasy team, what do you think I am an idiot?

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                  • Badgun
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2638

                    #489
                    Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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                    SoMiss2000 said:
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                    Badgun said:
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                    SoMiss2000 said:
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                    Mossfan8480 said:
                    Ok I just checked it out. WHat I did was go to fre agency and then press start. All big ticker players stayed with their respective teams except K Mart and AI. AI went to Portland(LOL good fit with Wallace) and K Mart got sined after 3 games to Portland as well LOL....I guess he wants a championship

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> From what I've simmed, it isn't so bad afterall. And for anyone who responds saying I'm trying to downplay it, what's it to you? Sorry guys, but lately I'm getting attacked and accused of defending one specific game when i usually buy them all no thanks to OS. I could never intend on buying a game until I come here. I'm weak.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I don't think you're getting attacked for defending a game, I think it's more for your stinking attitude and how rude you come across to everyone else.

                    Lighten up, Francis!

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Who's francis? No, you're mistaken. If you go back and read, you'd see that I was trying to think of a solution to problem. You then go on your little rant and call us EA Drones. You basically called us stupid for buying the game even with this bug. I responded by basically saying it's no concern to you if you're not buying Live. You harped on that fact there are other games coming out and I told you that I had already paid for ESPN as well. I just don't understand how people who now have no interest in Live, can criticize people who look past the bug and still spend THEIR OWN MONEY. It would be different if I asked you to borrow $50. Go back and read your posts and then you'll see who had the stinking attitude. No hard feelings man!

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I never called anyone stupid, that's not my style. I basically said that if people would start speaking with their wallet, that maybe, just maybe EA might wake up and do some QA before they ship their game.

                    I could care less how you guys spend your money, but it just seems kind of strange to have to try and make a broken game work when there are two more fine games coming out within a few weeks.

                    Personally, I'm not that starved for a basketball game that I can't wait for ESPN or Inside Drive.

                    Oh and I did play NBA Live tonight on the Xbox and the PS2. I thought it was ok, but I thought the graphics were awful compared to the other two games coming out.

                    Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                    Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.
                    No, I didn't draft Grossman on my fantasy team, what do you think I am an idiot?

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                    • Badgun
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2638

                      #490
                      Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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                      SoMiss2000 said:
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                      Badgun said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      SoMiss2000 said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Mossfan8480 said:
                      Ok I just checked it out. WHat I did was go to fre agency and then press start. All big ticker players stayed with their respective teams except K Mart and AI. AI went to Portland(LOL good fit with Wallace) and K Mart got sined after 3 games to Portland as well LOL....I guess he wants a championship

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> From what I've simmed, it isn't so bad afterall. And for anyone who responds saying I'm trying to downplay it, what's it to you? Sorry guys, but lately I'm getting attacked and accused of defending one specific game when i usually buy them all no thanks to OS. I could never intend on buying a game until I come here. I'm weak.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I don't think you're getting attacked for defending a game, I think it's more for your stinking attitude and how rude you come across to everyone else.

                      Lighten up, Francis!

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Who's francis? No, you're mistaken. If you go back and read, you'd see that I was trying to think of a solution to problem. You then go on your little rant and call us EA Drones. You basically called us stupid for buying the game even with this bug. I responded by basically saying it's no concern to you if you're not buying Live. You harped on that fact there are other games coming out and I told you that I had already paid for ESPN as well. I just don't understand how people who now have no interest in Live, can criticize people who look past the bug and still spend THEIR OWN MONEY. It would be different if I asked you to borrow $50. Go back and read your posts and then you'll see who had the stinking attitude. No hard feelings man!

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I never called anyone stupid, that's not my style. I basically said that if people would start speaking with their wallet, that maybe, just maybe EA might wake up and do some QA before they ship their game.

                      I could care less how you guys spend your money, but it just seems kind of strange to have to try and make a broken game work when there are two more fine games coming out within a few weeks.

                      Personally, I'm not that starved for a basketball game that I can't wait for ESPN or Inside Drive.

                      Oh and I did play NBA Live tonight on the Xbox and the PS2. I thought it was ok, but I thought the graphics were awful compared to the other two games coming out.

                      Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                      Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.
                      No, I didn't draft Grossman on my fantasy team, what do you think I am an idiot?

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #491
                        Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        Badgun said:
                        Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                        Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Ok, now not only are you OT, you're speaking out your ***. If you're going to base your opinions on a single play of a game, then by all means do so. But do the rest of us a favor and post your opinions outside this topic, b/c everyone here should be discussing the issues of topic title.

                        Take your elsewhere.

                        Mods, can we please get a warning or something on this fool so we can get back on topic? Thanks.
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                          #492
                          Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

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                          Badgun said:
                          Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                          Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.

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                          Ok, now not only are you OT, you're speaking out your ***. If you're going to base your opinions on a single play of a game, then by all means do so. But do the rest of us a favor and post your opinions outside this topic, b/c everyone here should be discussing the issues of topic title.

                          Take your elsewhere.

                          Mods, can we please get a warning or something on this fool so we can get back on topic? Thanks.
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                          • Pared
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #493
                            Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            Badgun said:
                            Also, is there a slider to turn down how much the CPU uses the Pro Hop? Because if there isn't, I wouldn't buy the game for that reason alone. I have never seen a feature so over used in my life. I played one game on the Xbox version and I'll bet I saw the Pro Hop 9 out of 10 times down the court. Maybe they should have programmed in some jumps shots because I didn't see many of them.

                            Anyway SoMiss2000, no hard feelings man...afterall, you're a Cowboy fan.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Ok, now not only are you OT, you're speaking out your ***. If you're going to base your opinions on a single play of a game, then by all means do so. But do the rest of us a favor and post your opinions outside this topic, b/c everyone here should be discussing the issues of topic title.

                            Take your elsewhere.

                            Mods, can we please get a warning or something on this fool so we can get back on topic? Thanks.
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                            • LarryBird
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 46

                              #494
                              Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

                              I don't own the game (yet - tomorrow I will), but I haven't heard anyone mention anything about a veteran's exemption which is the BIGGEST part of real world NBA free-agent signing process, so I am going to assume that it is not in the game.

                              For those who don't know, the veteran's exemption is a roster spot on each team that can be used to sign a free agent regardless if they go over the cap or not (I think it is somewhere around 4.5 mil or something), so if you're over the cap and you still need to fill some roster spots, you can.

                              If this was in the game, would it not solve a lot of these problems? Superstars might not be signed for the max like they should, but at least there could be some sort of bidding war for them... I was shocked it wasn't in last year's live (It was in 2K3), but if it's not there this year(as appears is the case) I can't see any excuse for it.

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                              • LarryBird
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 46

                                #495
                                Re: The Official FA \"Bug\" Thread.

                                I don't own the game (yet - tomorrow I will), but I haven't heard anyone mention anything about a veteran's exemption which is the BIGGEST part of real world NBA free-agent signing process, so I am going to assume that it is not in the game.

                                For those who don't know, the veteran's exemption is a roster spot on each team that can be used to sign a free agent regardless if they go over the cap or not (I think it is somewhere around 4.5 mil or something), so if you're over the cap and you still need to fill some roster spots, you can.

                                If this was in the game, would it not solve a lot of these problems? Superstars might not be signed for the max like they should, but at least there could be some sort of bidding war for them... I was shocked it wasn't in last year's live (It was in 2K3), but if it's not there this year(as appears is the case) I can't see any excuse for it.

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