Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

**apaapa** · 10-24-2003, 01:37 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

**Blue_Monkey** · 10-24-2003, 02:24 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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apaapa said:
pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

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I can't believe it. You don't get a hint, do you?

**Blue_Monkey** · 10-24-2003, 02:24 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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apaapa said:
pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

<hr /></blockquote>
I can't believe it. You don't get a hint, do you?

**Blue_Monkey** · 10-24-2003, 02:24 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
apaapa said:
pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

<hr /></blockquote>
I can't believe it. You don't get a hint, do you?

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 02:46 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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jtdribbles25 said:
whattup guys...I totally agree with graphik and bigeastbumrush with their post....I enjoyed reading monkey's review. He comes from the same perspective as I ....however I disagree with his opinion on the pro-hop thing. Especially w/ mark jackson...he has been pro hopping for 30 yrs bro...and a guy who doesn't have speed like him and e-snow, and kvh use it more than you might think...watch some games and you'll definitely catch it. In the games that I have played, and I'm at about 40 overall, I see it maybe 2 or 3x a game.... I love this game. I even like the graphics. Something about em. Anyway, the more I read the more Im getting to know who are the "real" people here and not ....well, no use name callin.

-j

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You may be right on Mark Jackson, I am not sure about KVH though? I guess I can edit a few 'less physical' type guys and maybe they'll use it less? Maybe I need to work on my D also

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 02:46 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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jtdribbles25 said:
whattup guys...I totally agree with graphik and bigeastbumrush with their post....I enjoyed reading monkey's review. He comes from the same perspective as I ....however I disagree with his opinion on the pro-hop thing. Especially w/ mark jackson...he has been pro hopping for 30 yrs bro...and a guy who doesn't have speed like him and e-snow, and kvh use it more than you might think...watch some games and you'll definitely catch it. In the games that I have played, and I'm at about 40 overall, I see it maybe 2 or 3x a game.... I love this game. I even like the graphics. Something about em. Anyway, the more I read the more Im getting to know who are the "real" people here and not ....well, no use name callin.

-j

<hr /></blockquote>

You may be right on Mark Jackson, I am not sure about KVH though? I guess I can edit a few 'less physical' type guys and maybe they'll use it less? Maybe I need to work on my D also

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 02:46 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jtdribbles25 said:
whattup guys...I totally agree with graphik and bigeastbumrush with their post....I enjoyed reading monkey's review. He comes from the same perspective as I ....however I disagree with his opinion on the pro-hop thing. Especially w/ mark jackson...he has been pro hopping for 30 yrs bro...and a guy who doesn't have speed like him and e-snow, and kvh use it more than you might think...watch some games and you'll definitely catch it. In the games that I have played, and I'm at about 40 overall, I see it maybe 2 or 3x a game.... I love this game. I even like the graphics. Something about em. Anyway, the more I read the more Im getting to know who are the "real" people here and not ....well, no use name callin.

-j

<hr /></blockquote>

You may be right on Mark Jackson, I am not sure about KVH though? I guess I can edit a few 'less physical' type guys and maybe they'll use it less? Maybe I need to work on my D also

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 03:00 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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HMcCoy said:
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monkey said:
Firstlty, thanks to guys like Bigeastbumrush and H McCoy for the in depth views put forward on this game and recommending it so strongly

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My pleasure, I KNEW you would feel it...It takes a certain type of gamer to look past the surface and find the real gameplay moments that define a game. ID was that game last year, and Live is it for '04.

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Yep and I have to add, since my post...I am enjoying it even MORE.

I am really, really in love with the fact that each game is different

I used Philly and played Utah and was able to get to the hoop and won reasonably well. Iverson and the Big Dog really cut up the Jazz. I think went straight to a game V San Antonio and it was a COMPLETELY different game.

I don't just mean I got my *** whipped by the Spurs...but that the Spurs played a whole different game and that's what caused me the trouble. They were posting up Duncan and I simply had no one to match up with him. His speed was abusing DC in the paint, so I double teamed him with Kenny Thomas also. He still scored on me a tonne...but Parker and Ginoboli used the extra room to destroy me. It FELT like I was playing the Spurs

Conversely, the Jazz had no post up game and tried to beat me from outside with Andrei and Harpring.

It also meant, similar to ID 2003 games, I had to adapt...change my style for different teams etc. I was going to the hoop with Iverson, but Duncan was rejecting things all over and Ginobolis quicker D meant I wasn't getting good shots. Against the Jazz, I got in easily enough.

I remember one play I got around Ginoboli and Duncan stepped in and took the charge...watched it back a tonne on replay just saying "Dammmmmmmmmmmm that looks real". The mo cap really brings a whole new level to these games

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 03:00 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
monkey said:
Firstlty, thanks to guys like Bigeastbumrush and H McCoy for the in depth views put forward on this game and recommending it so strongly

<hr /></blockquote>

My pleasure, I KNEW you would feel it...It takes a certain type of gamer to look past the surface and find the real gameplay moments that define a game. ID was that game last year, and Live is it for '04.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yep and I have to add, since my post...I am enjoying it even MORE.

I am really, really in love with the fact that each game is different

I used Philly and played Utah and was able to get to the hoop and won reasonably well. Iverson and the Big Dog really cut up the Jazz. I think went straight to a game V San Antonio and it was a COMPLETELY different game.

I don't just mean I got my *** whipped by the Spurs...but that the Spurs played a whole different game and that's what caused me the trouble. They were posting up Duncan and I simply had no one to match up with him. His speed was abusing DC in the paint, so I double teamed him with Kenny Thomas also. He still scored on me a tonne...but Parker and Ginoboli used the extra room to destroy me. It FELT like I was playing the Spurs

Conversely, the Jazz had no post up game and tried to beat me from outside with Andrei and Harpring.

It also meant, similar to ID 2003 games, I had to adapt...change my style for different teams etc. I was going to the hoop with Iverson, but Duncan was rejecting things all over and Ginobolis quicker D meant I wasn't getting good shots. Against the Jazz, I got in easily enough.

I remember one play I got around Ginoboli and Duncan stepped in and took the charge...watched it back a tonne on replay just saying "Dammmmmmmmmmmm that looks real". The mo cap really brings a whole new level to these games

**Court_vision** · 10-24-2003, 03:00 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
monkey said:
Firstlty, thanks to guys like Bigeastbumrush and H McCoy for the in depth views put forward on this game and recommending it so strongly

<hr /></blockquote>

My pleasure, I KNEW you would feel it...It takes a certain type of gamer to look past the surface and find the real gameplay moments that define a game. ID was that game last year, and Live is it for '04.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yep and I have to add, since my post...I am enjoying it even MORE.

I am really, really in love with the fact that each game is different

I used Philly and played Utah and was able to get to the hoop and won reasonably well. Iverson and the Big Dog really cut up the Jazz. I think went straight to a game V San Antonio and it was a COMPLETELY different game.

I don't just mean I got my *** whipped by the Spurs...but that the Spurs played a whole different game and that's what caused me the trouble. They were posting up Duncan and I simply had no one to match up with him. His speed was abusing DC in the paint, so I double teamed him with Kenny Thomas also. He still scored on me a tonne...but Parker and Ginoboli used the extra room to destroy me. It FELT like I was playing the Spurs

Conversely, the Jazz had no post up game and tried to beat me from outside with Andrei and Harpring.

It also meant, similar to ID 2003 games, I had to adapt...change my style for different teams etc. I was going to the hoop with Iverson, but Duncan was rejecting things all over and Ginobolis quicker D meant I wasn't getting good shots. Against the Jazz, I got in easily enough.

I remember one play I got around Ginoboli and Duncan stepped in and took the charge...watched it back a tonne on replay just saying "Dammmmmmmmmmmm that looks real". The mo cap really brings a whole new level to these games

**OneBadMutha** · 10-24-2003, 04:11 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

Monkey, that sounds pretty good. One question I have though is can you call plays where guys run off of screens away from the ball to get open?

**OneBadMutha** · 10-24-2003, 04:11 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

Monkey, that sounds pretty good. One question I have though is can you call plays where guys run off of screens away from the ball to get open?

**OneBadMutha** · 10-24-2003, 04:11 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

Monkey, that sounds pretty good. One question I have though is can you call plays where guys run off of screens away from the ball to get open?

**jake44np** · 10-24-2003, 06:06 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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apaapa said:
pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

<hr /></blockquote>
Dude would you please stay in the ESPN forum and leave us alone!

**jake44np** · 10-24-2003, 06:06 AM

Re: Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
apaapa said:
pretty interesting how everybody in here says ESPN guys put down live, but I only see you guys in here do it. Everyone should try out all games to see what they like, but still how can you say ESPN is lacking when it´s been getting the best review scores? Reviews aint all that , but it sure is a good first indicator.

<hr /></blockquote>
Dude would you please stay in the ESPN forum and leave us alone!

Live 2004 : Reviewed from an ID / 2K perspective

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