Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

[aholbert32]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

AND Barkley AND Malone AND Garnett.

Barkley and Malone have better numbers and have been to the Finals

I dont think Garnett gets in if he retired today.

[Graphik]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Lebron James


No seriously, I'd go with

Robert Horry--even though he was just a role player, all those championships gotta mean something.

Discuss

Does anyone agree with Horry making it to the HOF? I was serious when I typed it. The man has won....I lost count of how many rings he has won. If championships matter the most for Hall of Famers, should'nt Horry qualify? His stats dont say it but whats he's done to win those chips should be taken under consideration.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Nash and Magloire are locks to be in the HoF. Now of course I'm probably thinking about a different HoF than what you guys are thinking of.

[SonicMage]

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Barkley and Malone have better numbers and have been to the Finals

I dont think Garnett gets in if he retired today.

What I'm saying is, each of their teams had their star player with a dream season, their team having the best record in the league, and they fall short of the championship in the playoffs.

That was the only comparison I was making.

[SonicMage]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Does anyone agree with Horry making it to the HOF? I was serious when I typed it. The man has won....I lost count of how many rings he has won. If championships matter the most for Hall of Famers, should'nt Horry qualify? His stats dont say it but whats he's done to win those chips should be taken under consideration.

Championships are not the only consideration though. Otherwise Steve Kerr and Horace Grant would be there too.

If were talking about Horry making it and Garnett or Dominique not being able to, something would be wrong there.

[Pointguard]

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Robert Horry is a tough call. I think Horry has done enough for the NBA and the game of basketball to make it, but I can easily see the argumnet for him not making it.

[GSW]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Does anyone agree with Horry making it to the HOF? I was serious when I typed it. The man has won....I lost count of how many rings he has won. If championships matter the most for Hall of Famers, should'nt Horry qualify? His stats dont say it but whats he's done to win those chips should be taken under consideration.

I agree with this, i was having a discussion with a co worker some time agao about it too. Robert Horry has rings, but like you said what he did and what he meant for the teams he won the rigns with should be taken into consideration. Its arguable the lakers wouldnt have one .. or 2, spurs definatly would be minus 1. and so on and so on...Its not as if he was riding pine and come in to break a sweat every now and then, he EARNED his rings,hes going to go down as one of the most clutch shooters of all time. I guarntee he will get in.

As for the other guys,Ive noticed something that seems to be a trend lately in sports, People(Casual fans especially) are so anxious to get guys that have really accomplished nothing in to the Hall of Fame.

I mean guys, come on, Steve nash does not deserve to be in the hall of fame, mvp or no mvp, he should not go in there (right now) lets wait until he does soemthing significant, like.. win a ring, or... take stocktons all time assist title (or even get close).

The Hall of fame, is for LEGENDARY players, that put STATS up, stats that are out of the norm, Record breaking stats, or won championships, or broke racial barriers , or something of that nature.

KG,DIRK (why his name is even brought up in a HOF discussion i have no idea),NASH,TMAC and any other player that has accomplished absolutly nothing in there careers up to now need not apply.

[dieselboy]

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Robert Horry:

Career 7.5 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 2.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.0 BLK

[GSW]

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Robert Horry:

Career 7.5 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 2.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.0 BLK

Career Highlights
Leads all active players with six NBA titles
One of just 12 players in NBA history with six or more NBA championships

Just the second player in NBA history to win a title with three different teams

Has appeared in the playoffs all 13 NBA seasons and has never been knocked out in the first round

Ranks third in NBA playoff history in games and ranks second in three-pointers made

Leads all active players in career postseason games (198), three-pointers made (237) and steals (255)

Ranks in the top 10 active playoff leaders in points (sixth with 1,784), rebounds (third with 1,211), assists (fourth with 527), blocks (sixth with 187) and minutes (second with 6,084)

Holds the NBA playoff record for the most 3PT-FG made without a miss connecting on 7-of-7 from downtown at Utah on 5/6/97

Is the Finals all-time leader in three-pointers made (53) and attempted (135 )

Holds the record for the most minutes played in a four-game Finals series (187 in 1995)

Set a Finals record for the highest 3PT-FG percentage in a seven-game
series with a .484 (15-31) mark in 2005

Shares - with Penny Hardaway - the Finals record for the most threes made in a four-game Finals series (11 in 1995)

Set the NBA Finals record for the most steals in a single game recording 7 at Orlando on 6/9/95.


Notice the trend in which words are used... specfically.. PLAYOFFS, and FINALS.

This guy is a WINNER flat out. and i beleive he has done way more when it counts(In the plyoffs) then most players that have rings now have done.

He deserves to go in.

[ShaKobe]

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Granted, Robert Horry's regular season career numbers of:

7.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.11 spg, .90 bpg, at .431 fg%, .345 3pt%, .735 ft% and 1.34 topg in 967 total regular season games

aren't that impressive, but his playoff numbers of:

9.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.29 spg, .94 bpg, at .432 fg%, .363 3pt%, .718 ft% and 1.29 topg in 198 total playoff games

are all better across the board, except for ft%. That's ALL his stats except for one. That's stepping it up right there for when it counts the most. Not many, if any players can say the same.

He has currently has 6 rings and he contributed significantly to all of them. There are not that many people who have ever played the game of basketball who can claim that (there are only 12 people to have 6 or more in NBA history). He has been to the playoffs all 13 years of his career and has always made it out of the first round. Only 2 people have played more playoff games and only 1 has made more 3-pointers in the playoffs. He is also the NBA Finals all-time leader in 3pts made and attempted.

To me, those are some great accomplishments that really deserve another look when being considered for the HOF. I'm sure some of it was by luck that Horry ended up on the teams that he did, but he still did it.


Edit: DOH!! GoldenstWarrior, I just noticed you posting almost the exact same thing. Oh well.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Horry gets in bc he wasnt just on those teams, he won games. You can't quantify Horry's success....

[Uhfan]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

What about Chris Webber or Ben Wallace?

Wow just looking at the list and there aren't many guys to choose from. Perhaps that says something about the current state of the NBA. But atleast there are a bunch of possible Hall of Famers:

Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard
Dwayne Wade
Carmello Anthony
Lebron
Tayshaun Prince
Chauncey
Manu
Yao
Kirlinko

[SPTO]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Kobe
AI
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Ben Wallace
T-Mac (they'll have to create a Gale Sayers type of argument for him to get in)

[RoyalBoyle78]

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Agree. Also Kevin Garnett. That's the reason why I left them off. They are potenial HOFer's BUT need some more years to prove themselves.

since when do you have to win a championship to be in tha HALL, If KG retired today, I would bet you everything I got he would get in.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Active players who retired RIGHT now will be in the hall of fame.

Robert Horry:

Career 7.5 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 2.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.0 BLK

it doesn't matter how many points he averaged over his time spent in the leauge, the thing that stands out for Horry is his Clucth Play, thats a big reason why he will make it to the Hall, without him and his clutch play with the teams he has won rings with, those teams may have not won with out him. Horry will make it.