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  • Tre74
    Rookie
    • Mar 2007
    • 158

    #106
    Re: Kevin Durant

    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
    This is not entirely accurate. Jordan had better shooting tools. Look at his FT%, and also remember that he was decent from midrange. It took Jordan time to develop his RANGE, which is actually quite common. I'm not saying he didn't improve, because he did, but he didn't have to make major changes to his form the way Lebron has.

    I think Lebron will get to a point where he has regular periods of being hot, but it'd be a lot to ask for him to develop a shot that makes the defense say, "We're NOT going to sag off of you."

    He'll have games where he hits four contested 3s in a row, but I doubt he'll have games where he makes a high percentage of stand still jumpers.


    But back to Kevin!

    My point about Lebron before wasn't that he won't improve. I think every facet of his game will improve over the next four years. I just don't see him becoming the shooter that DURANT is. That would be the biggest improvement on a shot in the history of the NBA.
    Lebron will never be the shooter that durant is. Some ppl no matter how hard they work jus cant reach the elite level. Lbj will be a better shooter in time but not even close to durant. Durant is a natural shooter.

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    • DC
      Hall Of Fame
      • Oct 2002
      • 17996

      #107
      Re: Kevin Durant

      No Durant WORKED to become the shooter he is.
      Concrete evidence/videos please

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      • faster
        MVP
        • Dec 2002
        • 2182

        #108
        Re: Kevin Durant

        Originally posted by Bornindamecca
        This is not entirely accurate. Jordan had better shooting tools. Look at his FT%, and also remember that he was decent from midrange. It took Jordan time to develop his RANGE, which is actually quite common. I'm not saying he didn't improve, because he did, but he didn't have to make major changes to his form the way Lebron has.

        I think Lebron will get to a point where he has regular periods of being hot, but it'd be a lot to ask for him to develop a shot that makes the defense say, "We're NOT going to sag off of you."

        He'll have games where he hits four contested 3s in a row, but I doubt he'll have games where he makes a high percentage of stand still jumpers.


        But back to Kevin!

        My point about Lebron before wasn't that he won't improve. I think every facet of his game will improve over the next four years. I just don't see him becoming the shooter that DURANT is. That would be the biggest improvement on a shot in the history of the NBA.
        Absolutely agree. GREAT GREAT POST! This is why IN MY MIND, I might want to build around others instead if I have the choice. Not taking ANYTHING away from Lebron... but in the grand scheme of things, I choose a guy that can also dominate with a shot. Still... dang.

        Personally, I might take Kevin over Lebron for building around. I really like that type of player that, if the lane gets shut off, can absolutely drain with a shot instead. Personal preference, that's all.
        "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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        • Bornindamecca
          Books Nelson Simnation
          • Jul 2007
          • 10919

          #109
          Re: Kevin Durant

          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
          No Durant WORKED to become the shooter he is.
          Of course he did, but that doesn't mean he's not also a born shooter.

          Anytime someone masters something(as he has already MASTERED the jumpshot at 20 years old), it's 99.9 times out of 100 a combination of:

          Talent+Enthusiasm+Hard Work+Concentration

          The TALENT gives them the predisposition towards that skillset, and allows early development. Enthusiasm is another crucial element for early development, because it allows children to CONCENTRATE and WORK HARDER than they normally would. This also occurs in adults, but is harder to manifest as they are often preprogrammed to believe in the power of can't.

          So it takes even more enthusiasm in adults to undo the negative effects of preprogramming. That's why the best thing anyone can do, if they really want to get good at something, is LOVE practicing.

          Kevin Durant has loved shooting, and loved to practice shooting at an early age. Anyone who acquires that love will have a chance to be a master, but if you're doing it for strategic reasons, because it's necessary to improve your game, your chances of becoming a master are slim to none.

          In truly great people, pure determination can get them to very very good, but is not enough to overcome someone who has either loved to do it from childhood, or has been lucky enough to acquire that love in adulthood.


          Hard work is not the antithesis of Talent. There is no situation in which Talent is completely independent of Hard work, so it's a redundancy to say that a talented person has worked hard at what they do.
          Last edited by Bornindamecca; 02-18-2009, 11:01 AM.
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          • Tre74
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 158

            #110
            Re: Kevin Durant

            Originally posted by Bornindamecca
            Of course he did, but that doesn't mean he's not also a born shooter.

            Anytime someone masters something(as he has already MASTERED the jumpshot at 20 years old), it's 99.9 times out of 100 a combination of:

            Talent+Enthusiasm+Hard Work+Concentration

            The TALENT gives them the predisposition towards that skillset, and allows early development. Enthusiasm is another crucial element for early development, because it allows children to CONCENTRATE and WORK HARDER than they normally would. This also occurs in adults, but is harder to manifest as they are often preprogrammed to believe in the power of can't.

            So it takes even more enthusiasm in adults to undo the negative effects of preprogramming. That's why the best thing anyone can do, if they really want to get good at something, is LOVE practicing.

            Kevin Durant has loved shooting, and loved to practice shooting at an early age. Anyone who acquires that love will have a chance to be a master, but if you're doing it for strategic reasons, because it's necessary to improve your game, your chances of becoming a master are slim to none.

            In truly great people, pure determination can get them to very very good, but is not enough to overcome someone who has either loved to do it from childhood, or has been lucky enough to acquire that love in adulthood.


            Hard work is not the antithesis of Talent. There is no situation in which Talent is completely independent of Hard work, so it's a redundancy to say that a talented person has worked hard at what they do.
            Exactyly if Lebron worked 10 TIMES as hard as durant on his shooting he still wouldnt be the shooter that durant is!

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            • DC
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2002
              • 17996

              #111
              Re: Kevin Durant

              Read this Born: http://coachingbetterbball.blogspot....pplies-to.html
              Concrete evidence/videos please

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              • NBA2k8 CHAMP
                Banned
                • Jan 2008
                • 1918

                #112
                Re: Kevin Durant

                Durant has just as much talent as Lebron not athletically and physical but overall game Durant is a Beast.Remember he's younger than Bron also

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                • Bornindamecca
                  Books Nelson Simnation
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 10919

                  #113
                  Re: Kevin Durant

                  Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                  I'm VERY familiar with Gladwell. Like I said, I do my research, man. I have to, because I am knee deep in a very, very improbable career.

                  That having been said, there is a missing part of the equation in this summation. I'll go into a little detail, because this was very illuminating to me when I discovered it, and allowed me to apply my 10,000 most wisely.


                  When you are practicing something, even if your technique is PERFECT, you can add to that practice. Mental fatigue puts your brain on automatic, and your muscles may record memory on their own, which is great. That's how it is done.

                  However....

                  ENTHUSIASM raises your perception. When your perception is raised like this, you correct mistakes on a level that people still don't write about in the technique books. You correct mistakes down to the fraction. When your perception is raised this way, your brain gains access to things you were NEVER taught, and you get a glimpse into the divine execution of technique.

                  This is why when I'm teaching people art, I stress love, love, love. An intellect, or a yeoman can smart work or hard work their way to great success, but if you find entusiasm, you find the secret **** that nobody can teach you, or make you understand. And enthusiasm is perpetual energy once it has begun. It breeds more enthusiasm, so when you find it, you gotta ride it as long as possible. It's a world without doubt, distraction or self consciousness, but filled with energy, concentration, fatigue and insight.
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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #114
                    Re: Kevin Durant

                    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                    I'm VERY familiar with Gladwell. Like I said, I do my research, man. I have to, because I am knee deep in a very, very improbable career.

                    That having been said, there is a missing part of the equation in this summation. I'll go into a little detail, because this was very illuminating to me when I discovered it, and allowed me to apply my 10,000 most wisely.


                    When you are practicing something, even if your technique is PERFECT, you can add to that practice. Mental fatigue puts your brain on automatic, and your muscles may record memory on their own, which is great. That's how it is done.

                    However....

                    ENTHUSIASM raises your perception. When your perception is raised like this, you correct mistakes on a level that people still don't write about in the technique books. You correct mistakes down to the fraction. When your perception is raised this way, your brain gains access to things you were NEVER taught, and you get a glimpse into the divine execution of technique.

                    This is why when I'm teaching people art, I stress love, love, love. An intellect, or a yeoman can smart work or hard work their way to great success, but if you find entusiasm, you find the secret **** that nobody can teach you, or make you understand. And enthusiasm is perpetual energy once it has begun. It breeds more enthusiasm, so when you find it, you gotta ride it as long as possible. It's a world without doubt, distraction or self consciousness, but filled with energy, concentration, fatigue and insight.
                    Nice

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                    • faster
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2182

                      #115
                      Re: Kevin Durant

                      Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                      However....

                      ENTHUSIASM raises your perception. When your perception is raised like this, you correct mistakes on a level that people still don't write about in the technique books. You correct mistakes down to the fraction. When your perception is raised this way, your brain gains access to things you were NEVER taught, and you get a glimpse into the divine execution of technique.
                      Absolutely. It's hard to put this type of "next level" but I think you put it succinctly. Well done.
                      "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #116
                        Re: Kevin Durant

                        Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                        I'm VERY familiar with Gladwell. Like I said, I do my research, man. I have to, because I am knee deep in a very, very improbable career.

                        That having been said, there is a missing part of the equation in this summation. I'll go into a little detail, because this was very illuminating to me when I discovered it, and allowed me to apply my 10,000 most wisely.


                        When you are practicing something, even if your technique is PERFECT, you can add to that practice. Mental fatigue puts your brain on automatic, and your muscles may record memory on their own, which is great. That's how it is done.

                        However....

                        ENTHUSIASM raises your perception. When your perception is raised like this, you correct mistakes on a level that people still don't write about in the technique books. You correct mistakes down to the fraction. When your perception is raised this way, your brain gains access to things you were NEVER taught, and you get a glimpse into the divine execution of technique.

                        This is why when I'm teaching people art, I stress love, love, love. An intellect, or a yeoman can smart work or hard work their way to great success, but if you find entusiasm, you find the secret **** that nobody can teach you, or make you understand. And enthusiasm is perpetual energy once it has begun. It breeds more enthusiasm, so when you find it, you gotta ride it as long as possible. It's a world without doubt, distraction or self consciousness, but filled with energy, concentration, fatigue and insight.
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • Salhus
                          He can talk the talk
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1799

                          #117
                          Re: Kevin Durant

                          I can see Durant ending up with more career points than Lebron. He has the skill set and versatility.

                          The reason he could pass Lebron, and the same reason I predict LJ won't break Kareem's scoring record is because of health.

                          Lebron plays like an NFL running back. He takes on more contact than anybody (-Shaq) Also, he has a lot of weight on his frame. That can only wear him down. He is bound to get seriously injured.

                          I hate to say it, but I think he will

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                          • Altimus
                            Chelsea, Assemble!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 27283

                            #118
                            Re: Kevin Durant

                            Originally posted by dossier
                            Wasn't it just a barbie horse toy?
                            Pretty much.

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                            • faster
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 2182

                              #119
                              Re: Kevin Durant

                              Originally posted by salhus47
                              I can see Durant ending up with more career points than Lebron. He has the skill set and versatility.

                              The reason he could pass Lebron, and the same reason I predict LJ won't break Kareem's scoring record is because of health.

                              Lebron plays like an NFL running back. He takes on more contact than anybody (-Shaq) Also, he has a lot of weight on his frame. That can only wear him down. He is bound to get seriously injured.

                              I hate to say it, but I think he will
                              Agreed. I'd root for Kevin to do it too! I don't think his head will swell to the size of a hot air balloon either............
                              "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #120
                                Re: Kevin Durant

                                Personally I don't believe there is such a thing as a 'born shooter'. Some are taught correctly from a very young age, some just drill it over and over again so their unorthodox J drops at a high percentage.
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