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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #76
    Re: Felt Bad for Manu

    Like 24th letter said earlier in the topic...some people in this topic are just hating on the man for NO reason at all and before it was just hilarious but now it's getting quite sad.

    What's next...Somebody gonna say Tim Duncan is the worst PF in the league because he doesn't go around getting crazy techs like Kobe or Rasheed or because he doesn't do any "flashy" moves or anything.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • Kashanova
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 12695

      #77
      Re: Felt Bad for Manu

      Originally posted by minoba82


      And your response to that was the following:





      The reason why I called your previous statement biased is b/c based on your opinions on Ginobili, you obviously don't like him and this influences your judgement of just how great of a player he is. For someone to say that Ginobili is nothing more than a decent sidekick, shows that he is either biased or he doesn't know basketball. <b>So which are you?</b>



      I believe this quote answers my question. According to this statement, if you don't have a finals MVP you're just a sidekick. I believe this would make your boy LeBron a sidekick, along with a majority of the league's best players. This also includes the other 2 frontrunners for this years MVP.
      my response was the following because when you mention 17th best of all time i figure your talking about in the nba all time, not the whole wide world of everyone whos ever played SG in a pro league.

      and my opinion isnt biased just cause i dont consider him great, thats just madness. the man can ball but i think some of the spurs fan really overrated them to say he's great is just riduclous since he's done jack in the nba eveyone knows that 2004 team was weak, come marbury was on the team thats all i got to say about that team with that.

      and obviously bring up lebron james is just stupid because his team didnt win by what i meant with sidekick is, jordan has 6 finals mvps, pippen is his sidekick. shaq has 3 kobe was his sidekick, wade has 1 shaq was his sidekick. hakeem has 2 drex was his sidekick

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      • superjames1992
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 31382

        #78
        Re: Felt Bad for Manu

        Originally posted by ZB9
        Manu carried Argentina to a true world championship in international play where the refs dont go for flopping, and where they dont bail out the players constantly.

        that is one reason why our NBA superstars from the US have had problems in international play lately...they are used to getting bailed out by the refs so often and that doesnt happen as often in international play.
        Very, very true!
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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #79
          Re: Felt Bad for Manu

          Has this dude made even ONE VALID reason as to why he hate Ginobili

          It's crazy how this thread went from how f***ed up it was for Stackhouse to do what he did to Manu to the Official "I Hate/Can't Stand Manu Ginobili For No Reason" Topic
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • jmood88
            Sean Payton: Retribution
            • Jul 2003
            • 34639

            #80
            Re: Felt Bad for Manu

            Originally posted by X*Cell
            Ginobili, Oberto, Scola, and Nocioni kicked Superstars from the USA's asses and that to me is a WHACK team compared to anything that the USA was going to use. And yet... who has the gold medal.
            That US team was not the best team that could've been used.
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            • X*Cell
              Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
              • Sep 2002
              • 8107

              #81
              Re: Felt Bad for Manu

              Originally posted by jmood88
              That US team was not the best team that could've been used.
              so you're saying that...

              Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Richard Jefferson, Dwyane Wade, Carlos Boozer, LeBron James, Shawn Marion, and Amare Stoudemire...

              is worse than...

              Juan Sanchez, Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto, Andres Nocioni, Ruben Wolkowisky, Alejandro Montecchia, Walter Hermann, Gabriel Fernandez, Hugo Sconochini, Luis Scola, and Carlos Delfino???



              read it and weep. Ginobili had 29 points to finish off USA.
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              • X*Cell
                Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                • Sep 2002
                • 8107

                #82
                Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                Originally posted by Kashanova
                my response was the following because when you mention 17th best of all time i figure your talking about in the nba all time, not the whole wide world of everyone whos ever played SG in a pro league.

                and my opinion isnt biased just cause i dont consider him great, thats just madness. the man can ball but i think some of the spurs fan really overrated them to say he's great is just riduclous since he's done jack in the nba eveyone knows that 2004 team was weak, come marbury was on the team thats all i got to say about that team with that.

                and obviously bring up lebron james is just stupid because his team didnt win by what i meant with sidekick is, jordan has 6 finals mvps, pippen is his sidekick. shaq has 3 kobe was his sidekick, wade has 1 shaq was his sidekick. hakeem has 2 drex was his sidekick
                I guess I can finally accept your answer if you are comparing him to Pippen, Kobe, Shaq, and Drexler.
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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #83
                  Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                  Originally posted by X*Cell
                  so you're saying that...

                  Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Richard Jefferson, Dwyane Wade, Carlos Boozer, LeBron James, Shawn Marion, and Amare Stoudemire...

                  is worse than...

                  Juan Sanchez, Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto, Andres Nocioni, Ruben Wolkowisky, Alejandro Montecchia, Walter Hermann, Gabriel Fernandez, Hugo Sconochini, Luis Scola, and Carlos Delfino???



                  read it and weep. Ginobili had 29 points to finish off USA.
                  That team was poorly put together and Lebron, Amare, and Wade barely played anyway. There were no shooters on that team.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • minoba82
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 225

                    #84
                    Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                    Originally posted by X*Cell
                    I guess I can finally accept your answer if you are comparing him to Pippen, Kobe, Shaq, and Drexler.
                    I don't accept it because that's not what he's doing. According to him in this thread, Ginobili isn't a great player b/c he hasn't won a lot of invidividual NBA accolades nor has he led/carried his team to the Finals and won a Finals MVP. By this criteria, guys like Baron Davis and Deron Williams aren't great players either. Neither one of them has very many individual accolades nor has either one even made it to the Finals. By the way, Duncan beat out Ginobili for the 2005 Finals MVP by 1 vote. So to say he hasn't done jack is ridiculous.

                    Originally posted by Kashanova
                    eveyone knows that 2004 team was weak, come marbury was on the team thats all i got to say about that team with that.
                    And just because the 2004 USA team was weaker than usual doesn't mean it was weak. Look at the rosters that X*Cell posted. Argentina should not have beat them. After all, they were competing with that "Euroleague crap" as you so eloquently put it.

                    And as for Marbury being on that team, he was actually pretty damn good at the time. He was putting up about 20ppg 8.6apg 3rpg and 1.5spg.

                    Originally posted by Kashanova
                    and obviously bring up lebron james is just stupid because his team didnt win by what i meant with sidekick is, jordan has 6 finals mvps, pippen is his sidekick. shaq has 3 kobe was his sidekick, wade has 1 shaq was his sidekick. hakeem has 2 drex was his sidekick
                    Maybe I shouldn't have brought up LeBron. How about Kobe? Here's your exact statement again:

                    Originally posted by Kashanova
                    and what the hell is biased about calling him a sidekick thats what he is i dont see no finals mvps in his mantle.
                    According to this reasoning, if a player hasn't won a Finals MVP then he's just a sidekick. So if Kobe doesn't win a Finals MVP, he'll always be a sidekick? According to you he will. BTW, 3 of those "sidekicks" you named are among the NBA's 50 Greatest players list and the other is widely regarded as the best player in the world right now.

                    Originally posted by minoba82
                    For someone to say that Ginobili is nothing more than a decent sidekick, shows that he is either biased or he doesn't know basketball. <b>So which are you?</b>
                    Originally posted by Kashanova
                    my opinion isnt biased
                    <br>Thanks for answering my question.
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                    • X*Cell
                      Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 8107

                      #85
                      Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                      Originally posted by minoba82
                      Maybe I shouldn't have brought up LeBron. How about Kobe? Here's your exact statement again:



                      According to this reasoning, if a player hasn't won a Finals MVP then he's just a sidekick. So if Kobe doesn't win a Finals MVP, he'll always be a sidekick? According to you he will. BTW, 3 of those "sidekicks" you named are among the NBA's 50 Greatest players list and the other is widely regarded as the best player in the world right now.
                      actually, Kobe is not a good example either because he also thinks Kobe sucks like Ginobili. Good ol' Kash.
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                      • SteelersFreak
                        All Star
                        • May 2004
                        • 9582

                        #86
                        Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                        lol @ Stack with the "take down". That was half flop, half take down, definitely not enough force to sling him to the ground like that.

                        And I hate when people post that video of Stack's foul on Shaq. Yeah, it was a flagrant, yeah it was a hard foul, but Stack is an old school kind of guy, and 10 years ago, that just would've been a good hard foul and maybe a Flagrant 1, no flagrant 2 like he got.
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                        • Kashanova
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 12695

                          #87
                          Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                          Originally posted by X*Cell
                          so you're saying that...

                          Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Richard Jefferson, Dwyane Wade, Carlos Boozer, LeBron James, Shawn Marion, and Amare Stoudemire...

                          is worse than...

                          Juan Sanchez, Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto, Andres Nocioni, Ruben Wolkowisky, Alejandro Montecchia, Walter Hermann, Gabriel Fernandez, Hugo Sconochini, Luis Scola, and Carlos Delfino???



                          read it and weep. Ginobili had 29 points to finish off USA.
                          odom and marbury would make any team suck when there on the same team,

                          nocioni, scola, delfino, hermann can all ball

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                          • X*Cell
                            Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 8107

                            #88
                            Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                            Originally posted by Kashanova
                            odom and marbury would make any team suck when there on the same team,

                            nocioni, scola, delfino, hermann can all ball
                            Are we lost in La-la land? Can anyone give me a ride back to REALITY?

                            not to mention Oberto is conspicuously absent from your list of Argentinean's who can ball, but not Delfino or Hermann... your biases are glaring way too much.
                            Last edited by X*Cell; 03-31-2008, 09:11 PM.
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                            • Kashanova
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 12695

                              #89
                              Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                              Originally posted by X*Cell
                              Are we lost in La-la land? Can anyone give me a ride back to REALITY?

                              not to mention Oberto is conspicuously absent from your list of Argentinean's who can ball, but not Delfino or Hermann... your biases are glaring way too much.
                              bias against oberto? you gotta be kidding me oberto is one of the biggest bums in the nba

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                              • Kashanova
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 12695

                                #90
                                Re: Felt Bad for Manu

                                Originally posted by minoba82
                                I don't accept it because that's not what he's doing. According to him in this thread, Ginobili isn't a great player b/c he hasn't won a lot of invidividual NBA accolades nor has he led/carried his team to the Finals and won a Finals MVP. By this criteria, guys like Baron Davis and Deron Williams aren't great players either. Neither one of them has very many individual accolades nor has either one even made it to the Finals. By the way, Duncan beat out Ginobili for the 2005 Finals MVP by 1 vote. So to say he hasn't done jack is ridiculous.



                                And just because the 2004 USA team was weaker than usual doesn't mean it was weak. Look at the rosters that X*Cell posted. Argentina should not have beat them. After all, they were competing with that "Euroleague crap" as you so eloquently put it.

                                And as for Marbury being on that team, he was actually pretty damn good at the time. He was putting up about 20ppg 8.6apg 3rpg and 1.5spg.



                                Maybe I shouldn't have brought up LeBron. How about Kobe? Here's your exact statement again:



                                According to this reasoning, if a player hasn't won a Finals MVP then he's just a sidekick. So if Kobe doesn't win a Finals MVP, he'll always be a sidekick? According to you he will. BTW, 3 of those "sidekicks" you named are among the NBA's 50 Greatest players list and the other is widely regarded as the best player in the world right now.





                                <br>Thanks for answering my question.
                                you ginobli fanboys im sorry that i dont believe that ginobli is one of the top 20 shooting guards of all time but its really idiotic to say that if person doesn't believe that the flopopli is one of the best of all time then they know notihng about basketball which is pretty riduclous to say since ginobli is nothing more then a second option, sidekick, and would of been nothing with out tim duncan

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