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  • DC
    Hall Of Fame
    • Oct 2002
    • 17996

    #181
    Re: MVP Discussions

    I just said I didn't do it on purpose.

    What I said has NOTHING to do with what happened with Bron and Roy last night

    Statistically, there is no way you can say ROy is having a better season than Dwight or CP3.

    That is the point I am making in reference to


    I've already explained and statistically backed up why Roy should be 4th
    I don't see how stats can back up that statement because his numbers do not look better than any of the 5 people in discussion
    Bron
    Wade
    Kobe
    CP3
    Dwight
    Concrete evidence/videos please

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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #182
      Re: MVP Discussions

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      Going by this, can I call Gilbert Arenas an MVP candidate since it's obvious the Wizards wouldn't be this bad without him?
      But Gilbert didn't play last year.

      The true MVP is Brenda Haywood. With him last year, the Wizards were the 5th team in the East. Without him, they're second to last in the league by a game.

      People claim that DWade is doing that this year. Brenda actually did that ****. If Kobe has any respect for the game, he'll give Brenda last year's MVP.

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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #183
        Re: MVP Discussions

        Originally posted by Cebby
        But Gilbert didn't play last year.

        The true MVP is Brenda Haywood. With him last year, the Wizards were the 5th team in the East. Without him, they're second to last in the league by a game.

        People claim that DWade is doing that this year. Brenda actually did that ****. If Kobe has any respect for the game, he'll give Brenda last year's MVP.
        Don't forget he almost won the Wizards their playoff series by nearly breaking LeBron's leg.

        Brenda for MVP.
        Too Old To Game Club

        Urban Meyer is lol.

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        • X*Cell
          Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
          • Sep 2002
          • 8107

          #184
          Re: MVP Discussions

          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
          I just said I didn't do it on purpose.

          What I said has NOTHING to do with what happened with Bron and Roy last night

          Statistically, there is no way you can say ROy is having a better season than Dwight or CP3.

          That is the point I am making in reference to




          I don't see how stats can back up that statement because his numbers do not look better than any of the 5 people in discussion
          Bron
          Wade
          Kobe
          CP3
          Dwight
          when referring to statistics, I assume you are going by the basic boxscore statistics. The way we look at stats, is vastly different comparatively. I look at a whole range of factors including team involvement, and especially the ability to create and facilitate.

          There's a reason why the Magic refer to first-time all-star Jameer Nelson as the soul of the Magic, and it's no mistake that the Magic have improved greatly because the way he stepped up his game. Howard has benefitted from this clearly. CP3's team is only a shadow of what it used to be, and I have a lot of reason to believe that they won't be making the same impact come playoff time that they did last year. Teams that become worse don't have MVP candidates. MVPs improve their team.

          Roy is the clear-cut leader of Portland... lightyears ahead of anyone else on his squad... and he has improved his team to awesome new heights.
          SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #185
            Re: MVP Discussions

            You guys are awful. One of you asked for an explanation as to why anyone would even mention Bradon Roy. You got two and still remain silly about it, to the point where the thread has become embarrassing.

            Xcell has done exactly what the thread is meant for and what I see for his analysis are silly responses, and immature sarcasm.

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            • X*Cell
              Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
              • Sep 2002
              • 8107

              #186
              Re: MVP Discussions

              Originally posted by 23
              You guys are awful. One of you asked for an explanation as to why anyone would even mention Bradon Roy. You got two and still remain silly about it, to the point where the thread has become embarrassing.

              Xcell has done exactly what the thread is meant for and what I see for his analysis are silly responses, and immature sarcasm.
              Thankyou! Truth in the building!
              SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #187
                Re: MVP Discussions

                This was the exact point of my PJ Brown comment. The writer wasnt just blasted for voting for him, because nobody here knew who he was until I posted the article "I voted for PJ Brown" way after the award was given out.

                The guy didnt vote PJ because he thought he was the best choice, but it was a vote for PJ and mainly a shot at the process.

                What you have here is a guy like myself and in great detail XCell who has explained and made a case for someone like Brandon Roy who has carried his team to a record more superior to one of the top 3 candidates but there is not going to be any voting for him

                The process is basically undefined and to mock and and say it makes no sense, even in the light of evidence as if someone said Kwame Brown was a top 3 choice without reason really makes you shrug

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                • JBH3
                  Marvel's Finest
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 13506

                  #188
                  Re: MVP Discussions

                  Originally posted by 23
                  This was the exact point of my PJ Brown comment. The writer wasnt just blasted for voting for him, because nobody here knew who he was until I posted the article "I voted for PJ Brown" way after the award was given out.

                  The guy didnt vote PJ because he thought he was the best choice, but it was a vote for PJ and mainly a shot at the process.

                  What you have here is a guy like myself and in great detail XCell who has explained and made a case for someone like Brandon Roy who has carried his team to a record more superior to one of the top 3 candidates but there is not going to be any voting for him

                  The process is basically undefined and to mock and and say it makes no sense, even in the light of evidence as if someone said Kwame Brown was a top 3 choice without reason really makes you shrug
                  ...and defeats the whole purpose of "discussing", or making the case for a candidate such as Wade.
                  Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                  All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #189
                    Re: MVP Discussions

                    Im not making a case for Wade, because he has no case.

                    Now that he's injured, he really has no case on top of not having a case.

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                    • JBH3
                      Marvel's Finest
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 13506

                      #190
                      Re: MVP Discussions

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Im not making a case for Wade, because he has no case.

                      Now that he's injured, he really has no case on top of not having a case.
                      Point is he can still be discussed w/o getting brow beaten by the OS "MVP" committee.
                      Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                      All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • X*Cell
                        Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 8107

                        #191
                        Re: MVP Discussions

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        Point is he can still be discussed w/o getting brow beaten by the OS "MVP" committee.
                        SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #192
                          Re: MVP Discussions

                          LOL I'm done.
                          Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 03-20-2009, 01:05 PM.
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • DC
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 17996

                            #193
                            Re: MVP Discussions

                            So now he uses the immature card. Good job 23.

                            XCell how can you use the world FACILITATE when comparing Roy and Howard? Explain that please. SO Howard gets punished because he is a post player?

                            Roy vs CP3 in terms of team involvement and facilitation; I don't think it is a contest. Winner CP3.
                            Concrete evidence/videos please

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                            • X*Cell
                              Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 8107

                              #194
                              Re: MVP Discussions

                              Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                              So now he uses the immature card. Good job 23.

                              XCell how can you use the world FACILITATE when comparing Roy and Howard? Explain that please. SO Howard gets punished because he is a post player?

                              Roy vs CP3 in terms of team involvement and facilitation; I don't think it is a contest. Winner CP3.
                              You don't think it's a contest... but it actually is. Oh well, I've run out of points, so let the believers believe, and let the non-believers not...

                              but one thing is for sure... Brandon Roy is the most underrated NBA player at Operation Sports.
                              SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                              • DC
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 17996

                                #195
                                Re: MVP Discussions

                                No he isn't. We know what he does and what he CAN do. Don't use the word underrated because we don't think that he is a Top 4 MVP Candidate.



                                I don't think I have asked you

                                XCell name me your top 5 MVP candidates in ORDER
                                Concrete evidence/videos please

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