What Do You Think About RAJON RONDO?

[amra01]

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team usa is total different story they play a few games and you can afford to lose games there you to win them you have to be streaky all teams play zone D since and they let us team shoot the ball the depend of their miss cause of lack of athleticism. so someone like hinrich would fit better but in the nba rondo is a great for every team with his D rebounding and decision making he has time to develop his shot...

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He is the starting pg for a championship team. How many people in the league last year could say that ?

How many people in any given year can say that?

[PrettyT11]

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CP3 relies on his teammates more than Rondo,I've never seen Paul takeover down the stretch in a crucial game! Hence Pargo

Time out. Come again?? You must not have watched CP3 play. His teammates rely on him FAR MORE than he relies on them. He carries that team EVERY game. If you haven't seen where Paul has taken over at the end of a game you either haven't watched him or need to get your eyes checked. Check any game he played in last seasons playoffs or the regular season for that matter.

Now as far as Rondo goes in this playoffs please tell me ONE game that he has taken over the end of the game?? Last I recalled the end of EVERY GAME they won against the Bulls in the first round was either by Ray Allen or Paul Pierce making shots and having to carry the offense. I didn't see Rondo making ANY clutch jumpers or any of that at the end of the game. In fact he was MISSING shots to make the games go into overtime and double overtime. Hell even the games they lost to the Bulls Pierce and Allen was the ones trying to close out the game. NOT Rondo.

I give the boy props he has played some DAMN good basketball in the playoffs but let's not exaggerate and try to make him into some ultimate player, leader, and game closer. Rondo never has nor ever will be asked to carry the offense at the end of games. In fact they try to keep the ball out of his hands in crucial moments cause he is a horrible shooter and even worse of a free throw shooter. That why they either iso Pierce or bring Allen off of a screen. That will fall onto Pierce or Allen EVERY TIME just like it should.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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All of that talk was for nothing!

1.I never said Rondo took over the end of games my point there was CP3 and alot of other top 10 pg's doesn't either.

2.CP3 rely's on his teammates just like they rely on him,Did you watch the Nuggets series? NOT ONCE did PAUL ATTEMPT TO TAKEOVER,The only thing he did was pass the ball to his teammates hoping they hit.Same thing when he let Pargo no not Ray Allen or Paul Pierce but Pargo takeover in a deciding game.

3.I'm not turning Rondo into no ultimate player, my points were the same things you all say about Rondo can be used for the other top point guards.

Yes he plays with 3 HOF players but I guess Nash,Billups,Kidd, or Parker never has/had a team around them? The Fact is the same player they doubted last season DID IT in his 1st year as a starter.

4.You must not have watched the Celtics series did you? Rondo took a couple of game winning shot, granted he didn't hit but HE WAS ASKED TO DO IT!

5.This system bs is hilarious- Every player has a system that suits they're style best.The reason the Celtics play this way is BECAUSE OF RONDO.

Look at Iverson,Nash,Stoudamire,Marion,etc.... Every system isn't suited for everyone.

Great players gets the system either built or adapted around them.

You don't see a difference in the Celtics this year and last? They aren't more of a fastbreak team because that's what they decided.That idication should show you it's slowly and surely becoming Rondo's Team.


Only thing you all do is point out he can't shoot yet he does everything else well.I don't know if you all remember Chris Paul couldn't shoot either coming into the league and now look he's the best pg.

All in all Rondo has god given abilities you can't teach.

Extremely Quick,Athletic,Long,High IQ,and Great point guard intagibles

[Cebby]

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They could've had this lineup and still been decent

Perkins
Jefferson
Pierce
T.Allen
Rondo

No they couldn't have. They already tried that. They sucked.

CP3 relies on his teammates more than Rondo

Pure nonsense

He is the starting pg for a championship team. How many people in the league last year could say that ?

So he's what, roughly a third of the player Derick Fisher is? Is Perkins the man for being the starting center for a championship team?

[BTB]

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No they couldn't have. They already tried that. They sucked.



Pure nonsense



So he's what, roughly a third of the player Derick Fisher is? Is Perkins the man for being the starting center for a championship team?

Ha. Saying Rondo now = Rondo as a rookie is just as nonsensical. Same goes for Perkins during that time period, and hell even Al Jefferson at that level of his development.

One thing I will always wonder is how good we would've been having just made the Ray Allen trade. I know we got the Championship, but I think a starting lineup of

Rondo
Ray Allen
Pierce
Al Jefferson
Perkins

wouldve been one of the top teams in the east eventually. We also wouldve kept all the young players we sent to minny plus some future picks and who knows maybe we couldve offered a trade to memphis instead of what they got from the lakers.

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Gasol
Jefferson

wouldve been serious for many years to come

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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No they couldn't have. They already tried that. They sucked.

If you would take off you ***** glasses you would realize that Telfair started and Rondo was a rookie


Pure nonsense

Rondo and Paul both do the same thing if you would WATCH games.


So he's what, roughly a third of the player Derick Fisher is? Is Perkins the man for being the starting center for a championship team?
No need to respond to this Perkins is a legit starting Center and RIGHT NOW Perkins > Bynum

[PrettyT11]

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All of that talk was for nothing!

1.I never said Rondo took over the end of games my point there was CP3 and alot of other top 10 pg's doesn't either.

2.CP3 rely's on his teammates just like they rely on him,Did you watch the Nuggets series? NOT ONCE did PAUL ATTEMPT TO TAKEOVER,The only thing he did was pass the ball to his teammates hoping they hit.Same thing when he let Pargo no not Ray Allen or Paul Pierce but Pargo takeover in a deciding game.

3.I'm not turning Rondo into no ultimate player, my points were the same things you all say about Rondo can be used for the other top point guards.

Yes he plays with 3 HOF players but I guess Nash,Billups,Kidd, or Parker never has/had a team around them? The Fact is the same player they doubted last season DID IT in his 1st year as a starter.

4.You must not have watched the Celtics series did you? Rondo took a couple of game winning shot, granted he didn't hit but HE WAS ASKED TO DO IT!

5.This system bs is hilarious- Every player has a system that suits they're style best.The reason the Celtics play this way is BECAUSE OF RONDO.

Look at Iverson,Nash,Stoudamire,Marion,etc.... Every system isn't suited for everyone.

Great players gets the system either built or adapted around them.

You don't see a difference in the Celtics this year and last? They aren't more of a fastbreak team because that's what they decided.That idication should show you it's slowly and surely becoming Rondo's Team.


Only thing you all do is point out he can't shoot yet he does everything else well.I don't know if you all remember Chris Paul couldn't shoot either coming into the league and now look he's the best pg.

All in all Rondo has god given abilities you can't teach.

Extremely Quick,Athletic,Long,High IQ,and Great point guard intagibles

What the hell are you talking about?? Most of this crap you typed has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post and hasn't been brought up by ANYBODY in this thread. I think you are styill hung up on old threads and old arguments against him. Where did I or anybody else talk about Nash, Billups, and the others?? Where did anybody discredit him or say he was just a product of a system?? As I recall most if not all is giving him credit for what he has done but are ALSO stating what he needs to improve on and what would put him in elite status.

You must not have watched the Nuggets/Hornets series. CP3 tried to takeover and tried everything he could but had ZERO help. His starting center was on one leg, doesn't have a single player who can make a shot for themselves, and the ONE guy on his team who could score was getting bitched by Martin. So it was CP3 and nobody else. They locked in on him and when he doesn't go the Hornet's don't go. I don't know where all this Pargo crap is coming from?? Last I checked he was a reseve role player and didn't play a SINGLE minute in the NBA this year. CP3 was the one that DOMINATED the Mavs and almost carried them past the Spurs.

Lastly I watched EVERY single MINUTE of the Bulls/Celtics series. I have no idea what you was watching cause NOBODY asked Rondo to take ANY game deciding shots. The facts are that he was forced to take those shots that he BRICKED. They play was designed for other players but the Bulls played at least 5 feet OFF of Rondo and dared him to shoot the ball. He had no choice but to shoot and you saw what happened. There is no chance in hell they play that far off of Paul, Williams, Nash, or Billups in that situation.

[BigTigLSU]

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Okay the points you all make for Rondo can be made for majority of the other pg's

Chauncey played with Rip,Ben,Rasheed,and Prince in they're prime

CP3 relies on his teammates more than Rondo,I've never seen Paul takeover down the stretch in a crucial game! Hence Pargo

And the I'll never build a team around Rondo is very stupid....He's already one a championship running a team.

They could've had this lineup and still been decent

Perkins
Jefferson
Pierce
T.Allen
Rondo


Actually the only two HOF players that helps Rondo is Ray Allen and KG and KG isn't even playing,Pierce isolates 95% of his points.

He had a good game with Pierce only playing 10-15 minutes and KG not even dressing.

Give credit where credit is due because Chauncey isn't carrying no team on his bac either.

You havent watched the Hornets ever....

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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Where did I or anybody else talk about Nash, Billups, and the others??[/b]

I mean you wanna downplay Rondo and snatch him out of elite status and name others elite when they have the same problems.

Billups is a career 40% shooter......Rondo shoots 50% I don't give a rats *** where you shoot the ball 2 points is 2 points.

Lets talk about Nash's Defense......He gets outplayed by 75% of the point guards now but he's elite

Parker has played with Tim Duncan and Manu is whole career.....Actually the only thing Parker has over Rondo is his scoring ability.



Where did anybody discredit him or say he was just a product of a system??


Bornindamecca
When I say lineups, I mean that his current team and offensive scheme cater very much towards his strengths, and that's good. But if you put him on a team that is less motion and screen oriented, but more inside-out post up oriented, his lack of a jumper could really hurt. If he's dropping it down to a post player, you get a free double team, and you'd have to have the SG dump it into the post so Rajon's man has to come all the way from the weakside, and this limits your offensive options. Right now, with Ray, PP, House and big men who can hit a jumper, Boston doesn't suffer from this.

ALSO stating what he needs to improve on and what would put him in elite status.

So I guess Chris Paul,Deron Williams,Nash,Billups,etc.. has nothing to work on?
Only thing you are doing is pointing out ONE GLARING WEAKNESS.

Lets talk about the best defensive pg in the game,Best Rebounder for a pg,top 5 passer,Leadership,IQ,His quickness,jumping ability,The ability to control 3 hof players.

No you want to talk about ONE Weakness like none of the other players have none.


You must not have watched the Nuggets/Hornets series. CP3 tried to takeover and tried everything he could but had ZERO help.

I seen Chris Paul let Kenyon Martin,Nene,Birdman,Melo,etc.. Guard him on the perimeter and he passes the Ball to Peja with Dahntay Jones on him like it's a big mismatch.

I don't care If CP3 was missing I would have atleast like my Superstar to take 20 shots if the team couldn't score.

Cp3 never tried to takeover that whole series,He was more worried about getting his teammates involved.


I don't know where all this Pargo crap is coming from?? Last I checked he was a reseve role player and didn't play a SINGLE minute in the NBA this year. CP3 was the one that DOMINATED the Mavs and almost carried them past the Spurs.

Game on the line for you to go to the finals and you're right a RESERVE who didn't play a single minute DOMINATED THE BALL AT THE END OVER THE BEST PG IN THE GAME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTFKogzdZk&feature=related

Lastly I watched EVERY single MINUTE of the Bulls/Celtics series. I have no idea what you was watching cause NOBODY asked Rondo to take ANY game deciding shots.

Yo was watching NBA 2k9....I seen Rondo take atleast 3 game winning shots


The facts are that he was forced to take those shots that he BRICKED.

You're right but he still damn near averaged a Triple Double and WON the series so who cares?

He had no choice but to shoot and you saw what happened.

Like I said that's the only thing you can say is his shooting!

Jordan,Parker,Paul,Kobe,Wade,etc... Neither of them were good shooters until 5-6 years in the league.


There is no chance in hell they play that far off of Paul, Williams, Nash, or Billups in that situation.

The funny thing is you're talking ONE SITUATION...Look at what he does throughout a game.I can guarantee Nash's man will have 40 on him by time that situation comes.

Paul got HANDLED this year playoffs so HE NEVER MADE IT TO THAT SITUATION.

Billups is streaky also and he can't penetrate better than Rondo so what's your point?

The best scoring pg is Deron Williams but he's not the defender Rondo is nor the Rebounder

You point out ONE weakness while I can point out multiple weakness for other point guards.

But have fun with your hate because I do remember the ownage I gave you in another thread on this topic.

FTR Rondo has been the BEST PG IN THIS YEAR PLAYOFFS Bad jump shot and all.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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You havent watched the Hornets ever....

I'm sorry Chris Paul has no weaknesses

He is GOD

[PrettyT11]

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Man please. What ownage?? What I remember from that other was you talking in damn circles and avoiding questions not just from me but others that showed you was wrong and didn't know what you was talking about. It is hilarious to me that you want to say we all are hating cause we are pointing out something that even YOURSELF has stated to be true. So are you hating too??

Like I said and I stand by my point NOBODY was trashing the guy. EVERYBODY was giving him credit for playing damn good ball. All that was pointed out was thier reasons why they don't consider him one of the top 3 or 4 PG's in the league. You act like cause somebody said they didn't think he was top 4 or 5 they are just out to get the damn kid.

You need to get over your leve fest, man crush, or whatever your deal is with they guy and stop acting like everybody is out to get him and calling him trash. The fact that you picked out Born's post as a diss post show you have some serious blinders on. In not ONE part of that post was a diss. All it said was the system he is in now benefits his skills. If he played in a half court system or a post oriented system his numbers and production wouldn't be as good. That is FACT. There isn't a diss in that at all.

Lastly your lil analysis of the Hornets/Nuggets series shows just how much you DIDN'T watch that series. No Jones was NOT guarding Peja. Jones spent at least 90 percent of his time on the court guarding Paul. That was his ONLY purpose on the court was to guard Paul. The only time Martin or anybody else was on Paul was switching the sreen and roll. What where you watching??

EDIT--- Your lil youtube clip show just how much you didn't watch that series either. You show a game recap where Pargo took two shots in that clip and one was off a loose ball broken play set up by PAUL. Paul has 18 and 14 in that game and set up Pargo's shots so how again did Pargo dominate the ball?? Kind of hard to have 14 assists with somebody ELSE dominating the ball.

[Bornindamecca]

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I'm sorry Chris Paul has no weaknesses

He is GOD

Don't be sarcastic. It's silly. You're just wrong. Chris Paul closes out games all the time. He's a clutch scorer. He finishes inside and outside and gets to the free throw line. He's arguably the #1 PG option in the league in late game situations because he can equally create for himself, distribute or get a steal/pressure the ball on the other end.

You're wrong about Chris Paul.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Jason Kidd played with 2 HOFers? Where?

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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Don't be sarcastic. It's silly. You're just wrong. Chris Paul closes out games all the time. He's a clutch scorer. He finishes inside and outside and gets to the free throw line. He's arguably the #1 PG option in the league in late game situations because he can equally create for himself, distribute or get a steal/pressure the ball on the other end.

You're wrong about Chris Paul.

If that's what you think.

1 Question Game 7 Semi Finals who do you want taking over your game?


No! That's Hands Down Deron Williams

If you want to bring that up then Bring up the game winning rebounds,steals,and defensive stops Rondo has made.

Quit acting like Chris Paul has no Flaws BECAUSE HE DOES.I haven't seen one perfect player and Chris Paul is far from it.

That's his main Flaw he doesn't step up to the challenge in the clutch.

If He had no flaws he would've had a field day when Martin,Nene,Birdman,and Melo switched on him instead of relying on Peja and West to do something.