Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

[jrich05]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

Lol Martin isn't even close to pierce sorry

[NYKnickz]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

I'd rather have Martin for the long run over Pierce.

[jrich05]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

So you would rather have:
-no defense
-low % volume shooter
-bad finisher around the rim
-flopper

over

-finals mvp
-the most clutch SF in the league
-consistent
-great defender
?

word.

[AlexBrady]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

I'd rather have Martin for the long run over Pierce.

Martin is too physically frail and defenseless to be the leading man on a title contender.

[NYKnickz]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

Right now Pierce is better, but Pierce is 32 and Martin is 26. So for the long run, I'd rather have Martin.

[Stumbleweed]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

So you would rather have:
-no defense
-low % volume shooter
-bad finisher around the rim
-flopper

over

-finals mvp
-the most clutch SF in the league
-consistent
-great defender
?

word.

Kevin Martin is a low-percentage shooter? Might want to take a look at Pierce's career numbers and compare them to Martin's... not even close efficiency-wise. Martin's 3PT shot takes him over the top. You can argue about Pierce's clutchness or whatever else, but Martin is a more efficient player on the offensive end by a good margin.

And yeah, if I'm building a team right now, it's Martin, though his injury problems would be a concern.

[KG]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

Kevin Martin is a low-percentage shooter? Might want to take a look at Pierce's career numbers and compare them to Martin's... not even close efficiency-wise. Martin's 3PT shot takes him over the top. You can argue about Pierce's clutchness or whatever else, but Martin is a more efficient player on the offensive end by a good margin.

And yeah, if I'm building a team right now, it's Martin, though his injury problems would be a concern.

Right.

People sleep on how tough Kevin Martin is because he's rail thin. Dude takes a lot of pounding, just look at his FT attempts. Martin is a good player wasting away out there in Sactown.

[JBH3]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

At this point the only knock on Kevin Martin is his durability. Since starting 80 games in 06-07 he's only started in 107 over the past three seasons. That's 107 games out of a possible 246.

That's quite astounding.

As far as %'s go in KM vs PP...Martin is HANDS DOWN the more efficient scorer. PPs best season %-wise in any cat (3's, FG, FT) isn't better than anyone year of KM's and Martin's career numbers are better in every % category.

[jrich05]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

didn't even know that pierce was such a low % scorer considering that he's SF, but KMart barely gets over 40% in a season. Not that hard to score 25 ppg when you have unlimited attempts and you are the only good player on the team.

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

Kevin Martin's true shooting % (TS%,taking into account 3 pointers) has been at or above 60% for a while now. Paul Pierce has never hit 60% and hovers around 58%

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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Kevin Martin is not better than Paul Pierce. I can't believe this is even being argued.

[DC]

Re: Top 25 Players out West-- Is KD top 12?

Kevin Martin is not better than Paul Pierce. I can't believe this is even being argued.

Yea I don't know what folks talk about at times