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  • NYCBred
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
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    #61
    Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

    Originally posted by Jukeman
    LoL I think you answered your own question
    I know lol but you know what I mean. He hasnt given us a full season for us to say that he is going to be good or not. Obviously with all the knee troubles already it's hard to see this guy as the 20 and 10 guy that I was hoping he could have become.

    Even at Ohio State you could have told that he was a great talent but if anything were to stop him it would be the injuries. He has been injury prone since high school so we always knew that somehow they would find him.

    It's a shame though, but if Bynum could come back and look fine then I wouldnt put it pass Oden.

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    • Rocky
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6896

      #62
      Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      Ah when nothing to say but efficiency stats go for the AB reference.

      Efficiency stats?....Blocks, Rebounds? C'mon now, some stats DON'T lie. The guy is almost averaging a double double in 24 minutes. I'll take those efficiency stats.

      He isn't what he was expected to be but the guy is a pretty good young player when healthy.
      "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
      -Rocky Balboa

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #63
        Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

        Originally posted by Rocky
        Efficiency stats?....Blocks, Rebounds? C'mon now, some stats DON'T lie. The guy is almost averaging a double double in 24 minutes. I'll take those efficiency stats.

        He isn't what he was expected to be but the guy is a pretty good young player when healthy.
        LOL, stats don't lie? Get out of here with that

        And I never said he wasn't "good".

        I said he was an all-time bust.

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        • LingeringRegime
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2007
          • 17089

          #64
          Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

          Just imagine if the C's ended up with the #1 pick that year and picked him.

          1) Doc Rivers would be somewhere else.
          2) The C's would not have been even close to being competitive the latter part of this decade.
          3) Paul Pierce would probably be playing for someone else by now.

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          • NYCBred
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            • Nov 2009
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            #65
            Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

            Um yes stats do lie but REBOUND and BLOCK stats dont. It was obvious he was already becoming a force on the defensive end. We all know that he barely had an offensive game but so did Dwight Howard and look at wat he has become.

            Actually Oden has been more impressive to me than Dwight was in his rookie year. Seeing as Oden was averaging almost the same as Dwight and he was playing 11 less minutes a night. You must have been saying Dwight was a bust to right?

            And please dont say these stats lie without giving any evidence as to why.

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            • Jukeman
              Showtime
              • Aug 2005
              • 10955

              #66
              Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

              What IF Portland drafted Durant...



              No doubt Oden is a good player but with the hype he had, I'd say he is a bust...Heck, technically CWebb is a bust and look how he turned out...To badd it wasnt with the Warriors...

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #67
                Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                Originally posted by NYCBred
                Um yes stats do lie but REBOUND and BLOCK stats dont. It was obvious he was already becoming a force on the defensive end. We all know that he barely had an offensive game but so did Dwight Howard and look at wat he has become.

                Actually Oden has been more impressive to me than Dwight was in his rookie year. Seeing as Oden was averaging almost the same as Dwight and he was playing 11 less minutes a night. You must have been saying Dwight was a bust to right?

                And please dont say these stats lie without giving any evidence as to why.
                Are we actually going to have this discussion?

                Are we completely ignoring skill sets in this discussion?

                Wow OS strikes again

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                • NYCBred
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                  • Nov 2009
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                  #68
                  Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  Are we actually going to have this discussion?

                  Are we completely ignoring skill sets in this discussion?

                  Wow OS strikes again
                  So please tell me how Dwight Howard and Greg Oden offensive skill sets are totally different?

                  Can you actually answer question's before you start changing the topic?

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                  • Sarah
                    MVP
                    • May 2003
                    • 2609

                    #69
                    Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                    Originally posted by NYCBred
                    One of the biggest busts in history? How can you say that and the dude hasnt even played a full season yet. Come on now dont go overboard give the guy some more time.
                    That's just the sad thing though. He has yet to play a full season and his knees already had a mileage of a veteran. He got great potentials but that would mean nothing if his knees himself will drag him to mediocrity. If this is the prelude of what is to come to his career, the most we can expect from him are just flashes of what he would have been if his knees did not betray him.

                    I hope he won't ask a lot of money from POR when his contract is up.

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #70
                      Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                      Originally posted by NYCBred
                      So please tell me how Dwight Howard and Greg Oden offensive skill sets are totally different?

                      Can you actually answer question's before you start changing the topic?
                      Howard's athleticism alone is enough to make the point.

                      Howard is quick off his feet on his first leap and second leap

                      He can go through or over defenders unlike anyone since Shaq

                      Obviously Howard is still extremely undeveloped, but the difference is Oden doesn't have that extra gear like I said before. He's the same size but that's where the similarities end on the offensive side.

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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #71
                        Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                        Originally posted by NYCBred
                        So please tell me how Dwight Howard and Greg Oden offensive skill sets are totally different?

                        Can you actually answer question's before you start changing the topic?
                        Not that much of a difference...Oden just not the athletic freak that DH is..

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                        • CeltBhoy33
                          Love Celtic, Hate Racism
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1446

                          #72
                          Re: Greg Oden: Possibly dislocated kneecap..

                          Originally posted by eckoefx
                          Hope it isn't true. Greg is finally starting to live up to his potential.
                          I watched the highlight it really didn't look pretty. I remember going to tons of his high school games. I support the guy and he has been getting a lot better in the nba. Just a sad story i hope he can get healthy.
                          MCRD October 29. Oh Rah!
                          Soon to be a United States Marine

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                          • PrettyT11
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3220

                            #73
                            Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                            Originally posted by NYCBred
                            Um yes stats do lie but REBOUND and BLOCK stats dont. It was obvious he was already becoming a force on the defensive end. We all know that he barely had an offensive game but so did Dwight Howard and look at wat he has become.

                            Actually Oden has been more impressive to me than Dwight was in his rookie year. Seeing as Oden was averaging almost the same as Dwight and he was playing 11 less minutes a night. You must have been saying Dwight was a bust to right?

                            And please dont say these stats lie without giving any evidence as to why.
                            This makes no sense at all?? First why are you comparing Oden's second year (third on the pay roll) to Howard's rookie season?? What kind of comparison is that?? There is a reason why Oden plays that many less minutes. It's because he can't stay on the floor that long because of foul trouble. Oden averages OVER six fouls per 36 mins. Meaning he would be fouled out of the game before he made it that far.

                            If you wanted to do a proper comparison you would compare Oden's year this season to Howard second year. In Howard's second year he lead the league in total rebounds and averaged 16 points and 13 rebounds. That was also at the age of 20 compared to Oden's 22. Those are numbers Oden can only dream of at this point in time. Until Oden learns how to not commit stupid fouls he will always be limited to around half of a game.

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                            • NYCBred
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                              • Nov 2009
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                              #74
                              Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              Howard's athleticism alone is enough to make the point.

                              Howard is quick off his feet on his first leap and second leap

                              He can go through or over defenders unlike anyone since Shaq

                              Obviously Howard is still extremely undeveloped, but the difference is Oden doesn't have that extra gear like I said before. He's the same size but that's where the similarities end on the offensive side.
                              I agree with you on this but the way Oden was jumping and moving around this season before this injury I thought he was showing that he some athleticism. He was looking very good moving and getting up and down the court.

                              Dont get me wrong im not trying to say Oden is/can be as good as Dwight im just saying that alot about their games are similar.

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                              • NYCBred
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                                • Nov 2009
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                                #75
                                Re: Greg Oden Out For The Year...Again

                                Originally posted by PrettyT11
                                This makes no sense at all?? First why are you comparing Oden's second year (third on the pay roll) to Howard's rookie season?? What kind of comparison is that?? There is a reason why Oden plays that many less minutes. It's because he can't stay on the floor that long because of foul trouble. Oden averages OVER six fouls per 36 mins. Meaning he would be fouled out of the game before he made it that far.

                                If you wanted to do a proper comparison you would compare Oden's year this season to Howard second year. In Howard's second year he lead the league in total rebounds and averaged 16 points and 13 rebounds. That was also at the age of 20 compared to Oden's 22. Those are numbers Oden can only dream of at this point in time. Until Oden learns how to not commit stupid fouls he will always be limited to around half of a game.
                                I was comparing Oden's first season(which was last year and second on the payroll) to Howard's rookie season.

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