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  • wildcatchild
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    • Jan 2003
    • 2129

    #496
    Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

    Originally posted by wwharton
    What's wrong with Brandon Roy?

    I'd be shocked if Cousins approaches "22 points, 11 rebound man every single night" but even if he did, that's a stretch to call him a poor man's Shaq. Must not remember what Shaq was dropping every night when he first came out of college.
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with Brandon Roy. I just don't think Evan Turner will ever become a super duper star like Dwyane Wade or even a Paul Pierce. But can you win a championship with Brandon Roy or a Joe Johnson (another player I've seen compared to Turner) as your best player? Doubtful.

    You must not understand what "poor man's" means. It means I think Cousins can become a lesser version of Shaq. And I don't think he'll average 22 and 11 right out of the gate...but I think he could average that down the road.

    The reason I use the Shaq comparison is because of DeMarcus's size. He will not be able to be guarded one-on-one, well, if he keeps his weight down. He proved that by putting up insane numbers against top competition. He averaged 15 points and almost 10 rebounds a game playing 22 minutes a night. He's 6-11 and 290 lbs. and moves extremely well. He can't jump and will not beat people down the court, but he is a physical freak...take this from someone who has crossed paths with him on more than several occasions at the Fayette Mall. Would be tough to pass on if I were Philly's GM, especially when you already have Iguodala, Young, and Holiday on the perimeter to build around. I'm sorry, but a past-his-prime Elton Brand, Jason Smith, and Samuel Dalembert are not going to take you anywhere. Speights has potential, but not sure if he's going to be a dominant force anytime soon.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #497
      Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

      Philly would be a fool to pass on Turner and that's putting it in nicer terms.
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      • P2K
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 8845

        #498
        Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

        Originally posted by wildcatchild
        There is absolutely nothing wrong with Brandon Roy. I just don't think Evan Turner will ever become a super duper star like Dwyane Wade or even a Paul Pierce. But can you win a championship with Brandon Roy or a Joe Johnson (another player I've seen compared to Turner) as your best player? Doubtful.

        You must not understand what "poor man's" means. It means I think Cousins can become a lesser version of Shaq. And I don't think he'll average 22 and 11 right out of the gate...but I think he could average that down the road.

        The reason I use the Shaq comparison is because of DeMarcus's size. He will not be able to be guarded one-on-one, well, if he keeps his weight down. He proved that by putting up insane numbers against top competition. He averaged 15 points and almost 10 rebounds a game playing 22 minutes a night. He's 6-11 and 290 lbs. and moves extremely well. He can't jump and will not beat people down the court, but he is a physical freak...take this from someone who has crossed paths with him on more than several occasions at the Fayette Mall. Would be tough to pass on if I were Philly's GM, especially when you already have Iguodala, Young, and Holiday on the perimeter to build around. I'm sorry, but a past-his-prime Elton Brand, Jason Smith, and Samuel Dalembert are not going to take you anywhere. Speights has potential, but not sure if he's going to be a dominant force anytime soon.
        We all know you love your boy Cousins, which has jaded your opinion.

        Brand is going nowhere soon unless some is dumb enough to take his contract. Emo-bert will be here maybe for the whole season. The team has two 3s in Iggz and Thad. They have their PG.

        Sixers are missing one position: Shooting guard.

        Turner may not turn out to be Wade. But they have to start somewhere. They won't be contending any time soon.

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        • DakkoN
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          • Sep 2006
          • 5611

          #499
          Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

          The 76ers were 25th out of 30 teams.. They are missing a lot more than just SG.
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          • wwharton
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2002
            • 26949

            #500
            Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

            Originally posted by wildcatchild
            There is absolutely nothing wrong with Brandon Roy. I just don't think Evan Turner will ever become a super duper star like Dwyane Wade or even a Paul Pierce. But can you win a championship with Brandon Roy or a Joe Johnson (another player I've seen compared to Turner) as your best player? Doubtful.

            You must not understand what "poor man's" means. It means I think Cousins can become a lesser version of Shaq. And I don't think he'll average 22 and 11 right out of the gate...but I think he could average that down the road.

            The reason I use the Shaq comparison is because of DeMarcus's size. He will not be able to be guarded one-on-one, well, if he keeps his weight down. He proved that by putting up insane numbers against top competition. He averaged 15 points and almost 10 rebounds a game playing 22 minutes a night. He's 6-11 and 290 lbs. and moves extremely well. He can't jump and will not beat people down the court, but he is a physical freak...take this from someone who has crossed paths with him on more than several occasions at the Fayette Mall. Would be tough to pass on if I were Philly's GM, especially when you already have Iguodala, Young, and Holiday on the perimeter to build around. I'm sorry, but a past-his-prime Elton Brand, Jason Smith, and Samuel Dalembert are not going to take you anywhere. Speights has potential, but not sure if he's going to be a dominant force anytime soon.
            If Roy can stay healthy he can still be a superstar... not saying he will but I don't think comparing anybody to him (besides the injuries) is a bad thing.

            And sorry, Cousins is not a poor man's Shaq. He doesn't have Shaq's size, athletic ability, etc. He may be a poor man's version of today's Shaq. I hope he has a great career but lets slow that roll a little bit.

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            • P2K
              Banned
              • Aug 2006
              • 8845

              #501
              Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

              Originally posted by DakkoN
              The 76ers were 25th out of 30 teams.. They are missing a lot more than just SG.
              So just leave the SG alone and let Willie Green start?

              Or what...magically pick Turner, Cousins and Favors with one pick?

              Thanks for your post

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              • DakkoN
                All Star
                • Sep 2006
                • 5611

                #502
                Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                Originally posted by P2K
                So just leave the SG alone and let Willie Green start?

                Or what...magically pick Turner, Cousins and Favors with one pick?

                Thanks for your post
                Or they could draft a SG who can't shoot a 3 and have the same problems they have now.

                I'd rather take Favors or Cousins and move Dalembert's huge expiring contract for a SG upgrade. Dalembert doesn't want to be there and I'm not sure Philly management wants him there anymore either after he started showing up late for practices and games and demanding trades.
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                • ProfessaPackMan
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #503
                  Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                  Problem is you have to find somebody who WANTS to take Dalembert's Contract and if he's been demanding to be traded and nobody STILL hasn't taken him, then at this point the best(and really only bet)for Philly is to take Turner.

                  When you're drafting in the top 3-4, you ALWAYS draft BPA regardless of what other holes you have on your team.
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                  • DakkoN
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5611

                    #504
                    Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                    I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone who would take a 12.2M expiring contract to be able to make a splash in 2011 free agency.
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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #505
                      Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                      But there's no rush for Philly to move him though, that's the thing. They can hold onto him and have his contract come off the books as opposed to having to take on someone ELSE's Contract.

                      Like you said, they're missing more than a SG but that position has been a hole for them for quite sometime now while they can still get away with having Brand at the 4 for another year.
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                      • KG
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                        • Sep 2005
                        • 17583

                        #506
                        Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                        Turner can handle the ball enough to take the pressure of a young PG like Jrue, Iggy too. Turner's a playmaker too that can step right in from Day 1 and contribute. Favors can't do that and Cousins is still a little bit too raw although I can see him putting up 12 &10 just off putbacks and garbage buckets.
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                        • wildcatchild
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2129

                          #507
                          Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                          Originally posted by P2K
                          We all know you love your boy Cousins, which has jaded your opinion.

                          Brand is going nowhere soon unless some is dumb enough to take his contract. Emo-bert will be here maybe for the whole season. The team has two 3s in Iggz and Thad. They have their PG.

                          Sixers are missing one position: Shooting guard.

                          Turner may not turn out to be Wade. But they have to start somewhere. They won't be contending any time soon.
                          Yes, I am a Kentucky fan. And honestly, I'm not sold on Cousins being better than Turner in the long run. Really, it makes no sense to compare the two because they play opposite postions. I'm just saying I disagree with the notion that taking Turner makes tons more sense than taking Cousins or Favors. They could use a two guard and they could use low post scoring. I think one can make a compelling argument on why Philly could play the "potential" card here instead of taking the more polished player in Turner. If he had off the charts athleticism or was a great shooter, this pick would be a no brainer. However, he has neither....and if they're not going to contend anytime soon, would it be a total shocker if they chose potential over finished product?
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #508
                            Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                            I don't know about Turner at the next level. For someone who handles the ball so much he is pretty careless and has some bad turnovers that shouldn't be committed by the level of star he was in college. Just makes me wonder what he'll be like against NBA defenders.

                            His other big advantage in being a playmaker was his size advantage, that's not going to be around in the NBA. I really can't call how Turner will fair at the next level. I can see him being a bust or being a good player. Just another tough one to call...
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                            • Vince
                              Bow for Bau
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26017

                              #509
                              Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                              Now Toronto seems very interest in Cole Aldrich. What can y'all tell me about him?
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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #510
                                Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                                Originally posted by ehh
                                I don't know about Turner at the next level. For someone who handles the ball so much he is pretty careless and has some bad turnovers that shouldn't be committed by the level of star he was in college. Just makes me wonder what he'll be like against NBA defenders.

                                His other big advantage in being a playmaker was his size advantage, that's not going to be around in the NBA. I really can't call how Turner will fair at the next level. I can see him being a bust or being a good player. Just another tough one to call...
                                I credit that 1st part a lot to Thad Motta's offense. He handled the bar for pretty much the entire time they were on offense but yeah his handles are kind of inconsistent. For someone 6'7 they are better than average but he still needs to tighten them up.

                                As a college player I thought he was a less athletic Grant Hill with a better jumper.
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