The LeBron James Thread

[Blazix]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I can see and understand that side of things, but we are talking about two of the three best players in the entire league (and IMO, the two best) being on the same team. The match up problems that would be created would be insane, especially when you throw Bosh in there.

LeBron an Wade are two of the best players in the league because they can dominate games, create instant offense for their teams, and pretty much score at will. The problem is they can only do this if they get the touches they need from the ball. Both Lebron and Wade need the ball to play at their superstar levels. Both of them can't have the ball at the same time.

[ehh]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

LeBron an Wade are two of the best players in the league because they can dominate games, create instant offense for their teams, and pretty much score at will. The problem is they can only do this if they get the touches they need from the ball. Both Lebron and Wade need the ball to play at their superstar levels. Both of them can't have the ball at the same time.

The 2008 Olympics beg to differ.

[Bornindamecca]

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The 2008 Olympics beg to differ.

Wade came off the bench, and there were one or two other pretty good players on that team. Not the trash Miami will likely be forced to surround them with if they go for all three.

[ehh]

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He came off the bench but was the best player on Team USA in Bejing. He was ridiculous out there.

[RayAllen20]

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Let's say Miami gets Wade, James, and Bosh. Does this mean they will most likely have to trade Beasley? And that they will have basically no one on their roster? So wouldn't that mean that they'd only have the minimum left to fill out their bench and starting line-up. I honestly don't think, if this is the case, that they'd win it all with that team. You need a bench, a good point guard, and a better front court to win. L.A.'s front court would eat Bosh + fill-in center alive. Who could possibly guard Dwight Howard? Nobody. I honestly think that this team wouldn't win the championship and would become the great dissapointment in NBA history.

James and Bosh should go to Chicago, to have a better chance IMO.

[Blazix]

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He came off the bench but was the best player on Team USA in Bejing. He was ridiculous out there.

So you're saying Wade should come off the bench? And as mentioned before Team USA cant be compared to Miami. In Miami, Wade, LeBron, and Bosh are the team. Team USA had a lot more talent on it

[ehh]

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So you're saying Wade should come off the bench?

LOL, what? How did you interpret my post to mean that?

[Cebby]

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Let's say Miami gets Wade, James, and Bosh. Does this mean they will most likely have to trade Beasley? And that they will have basically no one on their roster? So wouldn't that mean that they'd only have the minimum left to fill out their bench and starting line-up. I honestly don't think, if this is the case, that they'd win it all with that team. You need a bench, a good point guard, and a better front court to win. L.A.'s front court would eat Bosh + fill-in center alive. Who could possibly guard Dwight Howard? Nobody. I honestly think that this team wouldn't win the championship and would become the great dissapointment in NBA history.

They would have those three and no one else on the roster assuming a sign and trade with Toronto.

I believe the only thing they would have to fill out the roster is the MLE, the veterans thing, and minimum salaries.

I don't see how that would create a contender. Players will take the MLE to chase rings. I don't see them taking half a million for a ring.

[Vince]

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Let's assume the starting salary for Bron, Wade and Bosh is 16 million this season for each.

That's 48 million right there.
Assuming the Cap is at 56 million they would still have 8 million left to fill out their roster.

Say they fill it out with two players who cost 4 million each, they would now be able to use the MLE, since they are over the cap. Now they can fill out the roster with minimums and veteran exceptions.

Did I get this right?

[Cebby]

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Let's assume the starting salary for Bron, Wade and Bosh is 16 million this season for each.

I'm pretty sure that assumes that Bosh and Wade sign for a few million under the max.

[Blazix]

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LOL, what? How did you interpret my post to mean that?

Ok so what was your post supposed to mean? Anyway bottom line is Wade and LeBron are not going to produce statistically as they did when on separate teams

[Vince]

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I'm pretty sure that assumes that Bosh and Wade sign for a few million under the max.

Honestly, I don't know off hand what the 1st year salary is for players who sign with new teams or players who sign with their current team then are traded. So I'm kinda just using a random number. I'm sure it's somewhere between 16 and 18 million.

[Kully]

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Let's assume the starting salary for Bron, Wade and Bosh is 16 million this season for each.

That's 48 million right there.
Assuming the Cap is at 56 million they would still have 8 million left to fill out their roster.

Say they fill it out with two players who cost 4 million each, they would now be able to use the MLE, since they are over the cap. Now they can fill out the roster with minimums and veteran exceptions.

Did I get this right?

Nope, some things are a little off, but you are close.

If you are under the cap, you lose the exceptions. Only have vet minimums to use. Also, you can't go from under the cap to over it, then have the MLE to use. YOu lose that once you are far enough under the cap.

Max contracts for Wade/LBJ/Bosh start at 16.57 million.

[ehh]

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Ok so what was your post supposed to mean? Anyway bottom line is Wade and LeBron are not going to produce statistically as they did when on separate teams

Born posted that Wade came off the bench in Bejing, I was responding to him.

No one is debating their individual production either, it's if Miami can win a title with Wade + Bosh + LBJ.

[boomhauertjs]

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Brian Windhorst, the Cavs beat writer, thinks LeBron will re-sign with the Cavs based on what he knows about LeBron's personality and LeBron's connections to Northeast Ohio. However, he did say he wouldn't bet his house on it.
I'll put more stock in what Windhorst thinks since he's been covering LeBron for 10 years than some national writer who may not even know LeBron personally. I just hope he's right...