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Re: The LeBron James Saga
ever try the "euro step" move? that's all it is. Shooting the ball with the wrong hand. I'm so programed to do it the right way I have to force myself to do shoot with the wrong hand.Comment
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Haha . Then u must be a mod (bows down to the keyboard)Comment
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I'm sorry say but I think you have it either confused. You don't know what your talking about. The Euro Step is done by jumping off the correct foot. The thing that makes the Euro Step look so awkward. Is because the player take his first step with wrong foot first ( usually away/at the defender)
I can't find a one clip video with LeBron's lefty layup. But you can do a search for any of his highlights. And I bet you'll find at least 2 times in any game of his.
.....But I did find this left layup of him. (He still jumping off the wrong foot).
Euro step is with the correct foot.Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQoComment
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Re: The LeBron James Saga
^^Exactly^^Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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Re: The LeBron James Saga
Lets try this again SMH
[SO I have waited, and read, and sat back, and watched, and listened to, but now I am just plain tired. And before guys start getting angry and spewing craziness, all I ask is that if you disagree please have a valid argument to back it up. Not oh Lebron is so arrogant and such a baby. Cause he charter is not the topic of this thread.
First off a lot of people are knocking Lebron for not staying in Cleveland, well let me ask you this looking at the current Eastern Conference landscape did Lebrons chance of winning a ring in Cleveland get better or worse. Miami added a very serviceable piece in Chris Bosh instantly pushing them into Eastern conference contender status even without LBJ. Orlando maintained there dominate status only lossing M Barnes to free agency, this the same team that dismantled the Cavs a year prior. The Celtic maintained there core team even hypothetically with out the addition of Shaq there squad was still better then what the Cavs were offering. You also had teams making leaps forward like the now scrappy knicks who bolstered their rosters with the addition of Amare and Ramond Felton. And lets not forget about the Bulls who looked very up to the task last year adding Carlos Boozer and losing almost nothing in return. So people lets not act like all Lebron had to do was put on the jersey, tough it out for a few years and magically a ton of rings would show up at his doorstep. Cleveland was not the destination for Lebron to return.
With that being said lets tackle the issue of Miami. I am a 29 yr old man and I work for a rather large corporation and I have for a couple of years. I have made some really good friends there, and have some pretty decent Unit Managers. Now if some of my college friends that I have know for years, worked for a competitor and were two the top ten guys in the business. And they asked me to come work with them and I knew that my potential for success would be multiplied exponentially. I would jump at the chance. Lets not forget that these are his friends, not his enemies or just some guys he competes against. The ultimate goal in his sport is to win and be successful, this was by far the best way to accomplish the those two goals. What other goals would have been accomplished easier in Cleveland. And before you say winning a ring in his hometown, that slim chance was discussed earlier. We look at this situation with our emotions while we expect him not to act with his. Outside of the jerseys I am okay with it.
Lastly as far as whose team is it, lets examine the Lakers with Kareem, he joined the team in 1975 while Magic joined 4 years later. When the smoke cleared there was know questions as to whose team the was, yes Magic was drafted there but he still became a part of the team years after there best player had established himself. Of course only time will tell whose team it will be, but if history stands true, the best player will become the focal point of the team, so I am definitely not worried.
Again these are just a few things to consider before labeling Lebron Public enemy number one, and proclaiming that he committed an unforgivable sin, which would surely lead to his eternal damnation. We often times let or emotions cloud reality. I have been guilty of it many times myself, but this time I wanted to take a look at it from a logical perspective.
P.S. I was not the biggest fan of how the choice was released to the world, but after the comments of his owner, (Who I too would have been a little butt hurt knowing that my teams earning potential was just cut in half possible losing over a hundred million in the up and coming season) I will call it a wash.]Align your will, with his will, and you will thrive.Comment
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Re: The LeBron James Saga
This thread is currently over 7,000 posts long so you're not really saying anything new. LeBron joining the Heat is not comparable to you leaving one company and joining another, it's more like Wal-Mart and Target merging and forming a super company that will squash out all other competition. LeBron has essentially created a monopoly by signing with Wade and Bosh.
I said it in my last post, but it is not LeBron's fault, it's the NBA and its fans' fault. The ring overshadows all other accomplishments, faults and successes. The ring is the goal. The ring is the goal. The ring is the goal. This is repeated over and over and over to players, fans, and organizations until they become completely obsessed with obtaining one.
But what does a ring mean when it's won by a team like the 2010 Heat? Is that ring as valuable as when the Detroit Pistons built their franchise up and clawed and scrapped their way to a ring?
What happens when the 2008 Gold Medal team all takes the veteran minimum and signs to play together in 2012? Is that ring as valuable as the ring the Miami Heat won when they were carried on the back of Dwyane Wade (and maybe some officials) to beat the Mavs?
What happens if Lance Armstrong hops in a Ferrari on the Tour de France and wins the race by 2 days? Or if in your fantasy league, Chris Johnson, Drew Brees, Andre Johnson, Antonio Gates, and Adrian Peterson all get dropped and picked up the next day by another team, would it feel right if they won the championship?
I'm mad at the decision because to me, it takes away from the importance of an NBA Finals. It was essentially bought by the Miami three. And you can make a case for the last three NBA titles, too. The Lakers gave up nothing for arguably the best PF in the NBA. The Celtics traded away their league gutter team for Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. It's this new kind of mentality that's been progressively getting worse over the last decade where players in their prime will abandon their current team in order to get a ring on their finger.
Very good players are told they suck if they can't get their team out of the first round, despite playing with borderline D-Leaguers. They're told that Player A is better than Player B because "look at the rings," even though Player B is actually a better player. That role players like Trevor Ariza and Shannon Brown go down in history books because they were on the right team, yet were playing the same way they would anywhere else.
LeBron's heard that since he was a boy. He did his best to win in Cleveland and it's clear it was never going to happen, so he had to leave. But he did something no other player of his caliber has ever done. He skipped the step of going from a mediocre team to a good team and went ahead and went to the clear-cut best team in the NBA, and perhaps the best team since MJ's Bulls. And now he's going to win a title, and have a ring, and nobody can call him a loser anymore. Because in the NBA, you're a loser if you're not the champion. And for three years running, you're not the champion if you don't get there with some shady maneuvering that is unavailable to the 29 other teams in the league. And that to me is taking away from what the ring means.
It's borderline a white-collar crime what LeBron James is doing, but that's the culture the NBA has built. Win, anyway possible. If you're trying and getting close, quit and join a new team where you know you can win a title. It's not LeBron's fault, it's your fault, and everyone else who thinks simply having a ring is the pinnacle of success. It's been building on itself for years.
Champions are not born. They're signed and traded.Comment
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No he hasn't.
The Heat don't have close to a monopoly on talent. That would require them having the vast majority of the talent in the NBA.
We won't know how valuable the Heat's ring will be until we know the number and quality of the diamonds on it.Is that ring as valuable as when the Detroit Pistons built their franchise up and clawed and scrapped their way to a ring?
Kareem, Wilt, Barkley, Shaq, and Moses disagree with you on this being "new."It's this new kind of mentality that's been progressively getting worse over the last decade where players in their prime will abandon their current team in order to get a ring on their finger.Comment
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You're right, I'm misusing the term monopoly. But they're the closest thing to a guaranteed championship in the last 15 years.
Winning was important to those guys, but none of them straight up formed a superteam the way the Miami Heat did.Kareem, Wilt, Barkley, Shaq, and Moses disagree with you on this being "new."
Barkley was traded to the Suns and later to the Rockets when he was at the tail end of his career.
Wilt Chamberlain was traded to the Sixers when he won his first championship. He only won two championships his entire career. It is well documented he didn't care about winning. He's one of the worst arguments you could make for this.
Kareem won his first championship in his second year with the Bucks, then won 5 more after being traded to the Lakers and playing with them from 1975-89.
Shaq left the Magic for Hollywood and a higher earning potential. He actually left a great situation for a worse situation. The Lakers team was eventually built around him and they weren't really favorites until Kobe came into his own, but that was after Shaq was already the centerpiece there. Shaq was traded to Miami in a trade that the Heat gave up a lot of big pieces for him.
Moses Malone was traded to the Sixers when he won his one and only championship, although the trade was for scraps. This is the closest you can get to the LeBron situation because he went to a team with Dr. J (who was 32/33 at the time) and a lot of other good players on it that made the Finals the year before when Moses was the MVP. That team only lost one game in the playoffs and swept LA in the Finals.
Besides Moses Malone, none of those other guys are really good examples. And in almost all of the examples, they were traded to their respective teams, not signed outright. LeBron/Bosh/Wade is an unprecedented situation and the culmination of all things bad in the formation of super teams.Comment
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Didn't Shaq have a like a super team when he left Orldano for LA? Didn't they have Nick, Jones, Campbell (and not mention Kobe). Just asking guys....I mean that was a very good team without Shaq.Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQoComment
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I would hardly call that a super team though.
The year before Shaq arrived they won 53 games and lost in the first round.
The year before that they won 33 games and the year before that they won 39.
I would say they were a "good" team not great or super. Definitely not as good as Orlando was, at the time.Comment
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Re: The LeBron James Saga
What EC said.
Shaq made a personal move and not a team-based move when he went to LA. He went from the NBA Finals with Penny/Nick Anderson/Horace Grant and great role players, to LA so he could star in Kazaam and Man of Steel and make video games and rap. Not so he could be in a better position to win a championship, although it certainly worked out for him a few years later.Comment
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I wouldn't say they were a Super Star teams. But they sent like 4 people to the All Star game that year. But that was a pretty good team. And could of worked.Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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