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  • mKoz26
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    • Jan 2009
    • 4685

    #11086
    Re: The LeBron James Thread

    Originally posted by 23
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1t3w6J4ui

    LeBron James sinks into a restaurant booth on the first floor of the Westin in Jersey City, N.J., and orders a chamomile tea. The sun is setting on a Saturday in the middle of April, and through the windows he can see cars snaking toward the Holland Tunnel, beckoned by the lights of New York City. "For me," says James, "this is chillin' time." It is the travel day between two back-to-backs, four games in four cities, and he is swaddled in black sweats and a red Heat baseball cap with a flat black brim. His voice is hoarse but he says he doesn't have a sore throat.

    He prepares the tea as if it is a science project, lifting a small jar of honey and slowly pouring it into a teaspoon he holds over the mug, until the honey is about to overflow. He lowers the spoon and gently stirs, then squeezes three lemon wedges into the tea and sucks the rinds. It is suggested that lemons are bad for his teeth. "That's OK," James says, easing his massive shoulders against the back of the booth. "My teeth are already terrible." He smiles wide enough to reveal almost every one.

    Tranquil moments are few in the chaotic life of LeBron James. He steals them when he can, sitting on his patio in Coconut Grove, Fla., and admiring the waves on Biscayne Bay, biking across Rickenbacker Causeway with friends to Key Biscayne, watching basketball on television and flipping the channel when the announcers utter his name. Forward Shane Battier, in his first year with Miami, sounds as if he could lead a seminar at Duke deconstructing the James phenomenon. "He is a global icon, a basket-ball monolith, the most prevalent and recognizable athlete of our generation," says Battier. "And he's one of a kind, because he's the first to rise to prominence in the Information Age, which is why he's such a fascinating sociological observation. He's accountable every single day for every single thing, from how he plays to what he tweets to what he says in the pre- and the postgame interviews. He has a camera and a microphone on him wherever he goes, and then when he [goes out to] dinner, there's a camera phone on him. This is what he signed up for. There is a price to pay. He understands that. But I don't think a lot of guys could handle it."Inside SI


    James isn't just coping, he is completing one of the finest all-around seasons in the NBA's modern era. At week's end he was averaging 27.1 points with 7.9 rebounds and 6.2 assists while shooting 53.1 percent. Larry Bird never shot 53.1 percent. His player efficiency rating of 30.6 leads the league by more than four points, and he is holding opposing small forwards to an anemic efficiency rating of 10.4, according to 82games.com.

    The 6-foot-8 James is the Heat's best ball handler, passer and post scorer, but he also covers everyone from point guards to centers, sometimes in the same game. "We are asking him to play at an MVP level," says coach Erik Spoelstra, "and at a Defensive Player of the Year level." James is attempting fewer three-pointers than ever while making them at a higher clip (36.2 percent). He is grabbing more rebounds in part because he is spending more time inside. His game log is a litany of near triple doubles. The NBA has not witnessed such a balanced and prolific individual assault since Michael Jordan in 1988--89, two years before....
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    • wwharton
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      • Aug 2002
      • 26949

      #11087
      Re: The LeBron James Thread

      Originally posted by BringTheHeat
      I completely agree they shouldn't have had it. BUT, they did. And when you're standing on stage with all of Miami and the basketball world watching you, you have to "talk the talk".
      Interesting cliche to use there... if you "talk the talk" you also have to "walk the walk" so when you give millions of people reasons to hope you fail and you talk the talk, you're going to take a lot of heat until you walk the walk. Walking to the tune of the number of championships he talked about is damn near impossible, so no, he shouldn't have gone there.

      Like you said, he did, and now this is what he has to deal with.

      BTW, Battier's description of James' life is what I meant when I said Dirk isn't Lebron. Not a knock on either one, just the reality of the situation.

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52915

        #11088
        Re: The LeBron James Thread

        Oh, LeBron James knows how to drink tea? He's so sophisticated.

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        • BringTheHeat
          MVP
          • Jan 2012
          • 2264

          #11089
          Re: The LeBron James Thread

          Originally posted by wwharton
          Interesting cliche to use there... if you "talk the talk" you also have to "walk the walk" so when you give millions of people reasons to hope you fail and you talk the talk, you're going to take a lot of heat until you walk the walk. Walking to the tune of the number of championships he talked about is damn near impossible, so no, he shouldn't have gone there.

          Like you said, he did, and now this is what he has to deal with.

          BTW, Battier's description of James' life is what I meant when I said Dirk isn't Lebron. Not a knock on either one, just the reality of the situation.
          The use of that cliche is exactly what I wanted, he needs to 'walk the walk' but like you said, very few people have won 7+ titles. So cut the man some slack on that, he was excited and trying to make a good impression on his new home. Basically, he was talking out of his ***.
          "To the last minute, to the last second, to the last man, we fight"

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          • wwharton
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2002
            • 26949

            #11090
            Re: The LeBron James Thread

            Originally posted by BringTheHeat
            The use of that cliche is exactly what I wanted, he needs to 'walk the walk' but like you said, very few people have won 7+ titles. So cut the man some slack on that, he was excited and trying to make a good impression on his new home. Basically, he was talking out of his ***.
            The question is why should anyone (besides Heat fans) cut him some slack?

            I understand your perspective. Any Heat fan that took him seriously (or anyone that took it seriously) doesn't understand the reality of what it takes to win 7 championships. But people aren't hammering him for making unrealistic promises. He pissed people off and then provided more ammo for those pissed off people to sling mud back at him. Why should those people not use that ammo? It's his fault... he can take it like a man.

            And this isn't saying that that's not exactly what he's doing, but fans that tell media and other fans to cut him some slack... that's what I don't get. He created this tornado so now he needs to live with it. ALL fans just need to sit and watch how he deals with it.

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            • BringTheHeat
              MVP
              • Jan 2012
              • 2264

              #11091
              Re: The LeBron James Thread

              Originally posted by wwharton
              The question is why should anyone (besides Heat fans) cut him some slack?

              I understand your perspective. Any Heat fan that took him seriously (or anyone that took it seriously) doesn't understand the reality of what it takes to win 7 championships. But people aren't hammering him for making unrealistic promises. He pissed people off and then provided more ammo for those pissed off people to sling mud back at him. Why should those people not use that ammo? It's his fault... he can take it like a man.

              And this isn't saying that that's not exactly what he's doing, but fans that tell media and other fans to cut him some slack... that's what I don't get. He created this tornado so now he needs to live with it. ALL fans just need to sit and watch how he deals with it.
              I see what you mean, it's nothing to do with what he said or if he meant to say it, but the whole "entitlement" thing. He basically said, "well just crown us now".
              "To the last minute, to the last second, to the last man, we fight"

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              • weeeeeeez
                MVP
                • May 2011
                • 1736

                #11092
                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                Best player in the league but he's a doosh.
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                • JerzeyReign
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 4847

                  #11093
                  Re: The LeBron James Thread

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                  • wwharton
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 26949

                    #11094
                    Re: The LeBron James Thread

                    Yep, ripping off this scab again, lol.

                    On Mike and Mike this morning they were talking about fans saying Riley needed to get more shooters to help James and Wade. Forgot who the guest was, but he pointed out that Haslem, Battier and Miller were all good shooters and are getting wide open shots bc of the attention the big 3 get... but are having the worst shooting seasons of their careers.

                    It seems very similar to guys like Jamison, Williams, etc. in Cleveland. I said before with that team, these guys aren't used to standing around watching and then expected to knock shots down when the iso play gets stuck. In short, none of these guys (or the guys on the Heat) are Steve Kerr or Craig Hodges and that's what they get reduced to on offense.

                    The Heat have more of a "real" offense, and both Wade and James for defenders to deal with, but I still think this is the problem. Even Bosh is more of a jump shooter than post up player, and he was criticized last year for the same issue (luckily he's been more involved this year).

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                    • BlastX21
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2118

                      #11095
                      Re: The LeBron James Thread

                      Originally posted by wwharton
                      Yep, ripping off this scab again, lol.

                      On Mike and Mike this morning they were talking about fans saying Riley needed to get more shooters to help James and Wade. Forgot who the guest was, but he pointed out that Haslem, Battier and Miller were all good shooters and are getting wide open shots bc of the attention the big 3 get... but are having the worst shooting seasons of their careers.

                      It seems very similar to guys like Jamison, Williams, etc. in Cleveland. I said before with that team, these guys aren't used to standing around watching and then expected to knock shots down when the iso play gets stuck. In short, none of these guys (or the guys on the Heat) are Steve Kerr or Craig Hodges and that's what they get reduced to on offense.

                      The Heat have more of a "real" offense, and both Wade and James for defenders to deal with, but I still think this is the problem. Even Bosh is more of a jump shooter than post up player, and he was criticized last year for the same issue (luckily he's been more involved this year).
                      i'm not sure what you mean...are you saying that Battier/Miller are shooting poorly because they only take jumpshots (since the inside ones go to Wade/James)?
                      Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                      there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #11096
                        Im a little confused myself.....that's exactly what Jones, Miller, Battier, Haslem have been doing for forever....spot up 3's, jumpers...

                        EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, Miller, Chalmers, and Jones have all had career years from 3 between the last couple of years...

                        They just aren't converting on what a lot of the time are wide open opportunities lately...
                        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 05-16-2012, 02:50 PM.

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #11097
                          Re: The LeBron James Thread

                          Basically I think it boils down to the fact that they aren't shooters who you can just call on to randomly hit shots now and then after having stood around for 15-20 seconds watching Wade or Bron go iso. They're rhythm shooters who need to knock down some shots to get themselves going and you're basically asking them to do nothing but stand around and THEN hit big shots in the game while ice cold.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #11098
                            Re: The LeBron James Thread

                            No actually I completely understand where Wwharton is coming from.

                            Mike Miller, Mo Williams, Jamison, these guys aren't strictly spot up shooters, they're used to having the offense almost be suited around them.. so they've all had a hard time adjusting to being a complimentary player rather than the guy who can hoist up all the shots.

                            I don't necessarily agree with Wwharton but I understand the point he's making.

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                            • BlastX21
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2118

                              #11099
                              Re: The LeBron James Thread

                              I dont think the heat is as Iso as people think though. Even with superstars, you don't become a top 2 team in the league through isolation. See: Atlanta Hawks. Tons of good players but no ball movement.

                              The Heat do move the ball around and the role players get shots from what I've seen. Must be some other explanation. Maybe just bad luck. Kind of like how any player that goes to the Chicago Bears turns to crap, and then dominates once they leave, lol.
                              Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                              there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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                              • BlastX21
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 2118

                                #11100
                                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                No actually I completely understand where Wwharton is coming from.

                                Mike Miller, Mo Williams, Jamison, these guys aren't strictly spot up shooters, they're used to having the offense almost be suited around them.. so they've all had a hard time adjusting to being a complimentary player rather than the guy who can hoist up all the shots.

                                I don't necessarily agree with Wwharton but I understand the point he's making.
                                I dont think Mo and Miller have ever been the focal point of anybody's offense. Or Battier.
                                Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                                there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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