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  • Nike Fattz
    Banned
    • Mar 2010
    • 182

    #3721
    Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    You forget we live in a "What have you done for me lately" Society so going by those standards(which would mean speaking on his recent playoff performance from this year)he sure enough didn't do much when it mattered/
    Regardless, he still isn't "awful". He isn't great, nor is he as good as he once was(obviously), but he continues to be a valuable asset for the Magic.

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    • boomhauertjs
      All Star
      • Feb 2004
      • 5373

      #3722
      Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

      Originally posted by Nike Fattz
      I obviously don't know what trolling is. Enlighten me on how exactly I'm "trolling".

      Anyhow, I'm listening to the ESPN's Cleveland radio right now, and they mentioned something along the lines of LeBron should be concerned with the health of himself and his family if he chooses someplace other than Cleveland. My question is, why would he want to go back to a City that'd turn completely hostile towards himself and his family if he put his own well being ahead of that of his "fans"?
      Every city has wackos like that.

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      • Kully
        MVP
        • Jul 2007
        • 3178

        #3723
        Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

        Great post Bornindamecca

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #3724
          Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

          Originally posted by Nike Fattz
          Regardless, he still isn't "awful". He isn't great, nor is he as good as he once was(obviously), but he continues to be a valuable asset for the Magic.
          Valuable asset with a bad contract that was bad from the get go.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #3725
            Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

            Originally posted by Nike Fattz
            I obviously don't know what trolling is. Enlighten me on how exactly I'm "trolling".

            Anyhow, I'm listening to the ESPN's Cleveland radio right now, and they mentioned something along the lines of LeBron should be concerned with the health of himself and his family if he chooses someplace other than Cleveland. My question is, why would he want to go back to a City that'd turn completely hostile towards himself and his family if he put his own well being ahead of that of his "fans"?
            No different than what folks in Green Bay were saying when Favre said he wanted to play for the Vikings just so he can stick it to us. Every city has crazies like that.
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #3726
              Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
              Winning in NYC would bring immortality, and he'd have to do less of it to be the hero, since NY hasn't won since Michael Jackson was alive and black.
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #3727
                Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                So looks like Lebron is turning his back on Cleveland...Man, the first game back in town is gonna be a CIRCUS!

                This still leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth for reasons i've stated before but I have to admit there's a morbid curiosity involved in seeing how it goes in Miami.
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                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • bjf1377
                  Lurker
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6620

                  #3728
                  Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                  Did a quick search and didn't see it, so:



                  The Bath Township police department will be providing security around the house of LeBron James on Thursday, as he announces his free agency decision in Greenwich, Connecticut.

                  Police Chief Michael McNeeley said they have an extra squad of police officers working around James home.
                  If I was all those rich people in Bath, I'd be annoyed/worried about having the cities police force focused on one house

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                  • Nike Fattz
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 182

                    #3729
                    Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                    Does anyone think this situation is similar to Ken Griffey Jr. leaving Seattle in his prime to play for Cincinnati?

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                    • NovaStar
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 3561

                      #3730
                      Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      By who?

                      He is the best player in the league and will be next season no matter where he plays.

                      There is an unbelievable amount of hate floating around. People want him to do whats best for them or their personal ideals not whats best for him which is just crazy. At this point he's damned if he dont & damned if he do.
                      First of all let's get it straight, Lebron aint the best player in the league, Kobe is currently the best player in the league, and if Lebron goes to miami, it will be questionable that he is the best player on his team.

                      Secondly, it is not about what is best for him or for the league, it is about what one understands about competition. I don't think he knows what is best for him, if he did, he would'nt be doing that 1hr crapfest tonight.

                      I am sure you are familiar with the saying a captain goes down with his ship. From the outside looking in, that is a foolish thing to do but from a captains point of view it is the thing to do, it is about honor and code. In basketball it is about the spirit of competition and winning. So, sometimes it is not about getting your ring but rather how you get it.

                      In the case of the self proclaimed king (lebron), he has been heralded as the next great player, chosen 1, etc...anyone with that perception of himself is claiming to be a captain. The spirit of the captain is such that he steers his ship (team) to clearer navigable waters (championships). When it gets rough, you don't abandon ship, you grip the wheel and ride it out! If you are a true captain (leader, king).

                      A king does not abandon his kingdom in times of great turmoil, a captain never abandons his ship and a man takes care of home. Depending upon how you view these codes of conduct and mottos, goes along way into understanding why some don't feel Lebron if he leaves clvnd. It all depends on what one understands and believes. Has nothing to do with hate.

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                      • da ThRONe
                        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8528

                        #3731
                        Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                        Originally posted by wwharton
                        Yeah that's a different point... just gotta give Shaq some kind of credit for showing up and nobody seems to be doing that. But I think Brown gets most of the blame for how everyone else looked. Neither Mo or Jamison are spot up shooters. Hickson is of great value if you run an uptempo offense, and I actually would say West is too ("great" value is a stretch with West but definitely valuable). Sideshow Bob is also a better offensive option if they push the ball and run more pick and rolls in the half court. The only way it can really be proven is if James goes back to Cleveland and we see how the core looks under Scott (even though I know you love him). But even still, as someone mentioned earlier, I find it very hard to believe that James can carry a team to 60 wins two straight years but the difference of playoff ball is SO big that he can't carry them in the playoffs. Bottom line is the team is better than they get credit for and they've had playoff success as well. Not everybody wins a ring and the Cavs were one of a handful of teams with the ability to do it. That's why I brought up the Magic and Celtics who aren't getting hammered for not winning a ring or even making it back to the finals like the Cavs have been.
                        I dont think I have seen one player carry a team as much as LeBron. Are the Cavs roster better then some of us(me included) have given them credit maybe ,but playoff basketball is a whole different beast. Teams play harder,(especially defensively) line up get shorten and minutes for starters increase.
                        You looking at the Chair MAN!

                        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                        • Brankles
                          Banned
                          • May 2003
                          • 5113

                          #3732
                          Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                          Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                          Not getting into the Lakers thing unless it directly relates to where Lebron is going, and I think it has passed that point. Kobe is a 5 time champion and most likely going down as a top ten player, and possibly the greatest Laker of All Time.

                          We're discussing the guy who still has yet to get anywhere near that convo. Here's the thing: I'm not against Lebron leaving Cleveland. If Lebron is convinced that he can't win without a perennial All Star, then I can't fault that logic, and NY, Chicago and Miami all go onto the table. In Chicago, I think he has the best possible chance to have his cake and eat it too. Great team, great city and he's still the man, despite the fact that we may be looking at a 45-50 win team without him over the next couple of years. Forget about overtaking Jordan and just be MJ-Lite. I get it.

                          In NY, he's taking the identical path to Dwyane Wade. Management and coaching in NYC have a better precedent than in Chicago, the owner is known for spending, the team has cap space, and what few players are on the roster are all shooters for the interim where he'd be waiting for the rest of the cap space to clear. Winning in NYC would bring immortality, and he'd have to do less of it to be the hero, since NY hasn't won since Michael Jackson was alive and black.

                          In Miami...ehh...I'm not going to say I have a flat out problem with it in the sense that I understand. You're watching Kobe and Boston play championship tennis, and you're sick of it. All three of them are sick of it, but Lebron most of all, because Kobe is winning on his clock. This is supposed to be the Lebron era, but people are talking about how KOBE can win two or three more rings. That's unacceptable, and I understand doing anything to stop it, especially since this is a rare opportunity, and this contract takes you past the big 3-0. What I don't like is that Wade an Lebron are supposed to be a rivalry, not an alliance. I got no problem with Lebron/Bosh or Bosh/Wade, but Lebron/Bosh/Wade is the path of least resistance. For perspective, just think about how you'd feel if you joined a Fantasy Draft 2k11 league and saw that team on there. Most people would say "can I put Durant on the Lakers?"


                          My real issue is what he's doing to the city of Cleveland if he leaves, and what he's doing to the owners/coaches/players of all the teams no matter what. It is so utterly classless and unprofessional to make a spectacle of declining a job offer, and on top of that, leaving your home team with nothing to show for it. If he leaves, we'll see the ugly aftermath. There will be a lot of tears in Cleveland. That sports culture has suffered plenty(I mean, you lose your football team, get them back and they're still the Browns??yuck), but to be destroyed in front of the entire country, to watch another city get your best, and to have it all happen at the hands of a born and bred phenom like this?

                          I really can't imagine it. Having the best athlete in NBA history born in your backyard is a stroke of luck that a city like Cleveland deserves, but having him do this to you just makes it the setup of the most vile joke in sports.
                          I haven't heard anyone bring Kobe up as any part of LeBron's decision, nor any jealousy or whatever you're talking about here.

                          As LeBron continues to win MVPs and wins at minimum three championships, I think he becomes the next best player since Jordan, or even better than Jordan, regardless of where he wins those rings. He needs to get out of Cleveland if he wants to do that.

                          And I agree, he's really making a lot of people look very desperate and sad in Cleveland. They bent over backwards for him and he's making it worse on everyone there by dragging this thing along. It's bad enough that he's leaving, but he could have shown a little more class than he has.

                          Then again, maybe he's not leaving?

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                          • Nike Fattz
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 182

                            #3733
                            Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                            Originally posted by bjf1377
                            Did a quick search and didn't see it, so:





                            If I was all those rich people in Bath, I'd be annoyed/worried about having the cities police force focused on one house
                            That, if nothing else, confirms that he isn't going back to Cleveland.

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #3734
                              Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                              Originally posted by Nike Fattz
                              Does anyone think this situation is similar to Ken Griffey Jr. leaving Seattle in his prime to play for Cincinnati?
                              Not really, sure we all saw Griffey mature through our very eyes in Seattle but he was going home to Cincy where he spent his childhood years and the Reds were his team growing up.

                              Lebron is LEAVING his hometown to chase a ring with his buddies. There's not much of a similarity.
                              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                              • da ThRONe
                                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 8528

                                #3735
                                Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                                Originally posted by NovaStar
                                First of all let's get it straight, Lebron aint the best player in the league, Kobe is currently the best player in the league, and if Lebron goes to miami, it will be questionable that he is the best player on his team.

                                Secondly, it is not about what is best for him or for the league, it is about what one understands about competition. I don't think he knows what is best for him, if he did, he would'nt be doing that 1hr crapfest tonight.

                                I am sure you are familiar with the saying a captain goes down with his ship. From the outside looking in, that is a foolish thing to do but from a captains point of view it is the thing to do, it is about honor and code. In basketball it is about the spirit of competition and winning. So, sometimes it is not about getting your ring but rather how you get it.

                                In the case of the self proclaimed king (lebron), he has been heralded as the next great player, chosen 1, etc...anyone with that perception of himself is claiming to be a captain. The spirit of the captain is such that he steers his ship (team) to clearer navigable waters (championships). When it gets rough, you don't abandon ship, you grip the wheel and ride it out! If you are a true captain (leader, king).

                                A king does not abandon his kingdom in times of great turmoil, a captain never abandons his ship and a man takes care of home. Depending upon how you view these codes of conduct and mottos, goes along way into understanding why some don't feel Lebron if he leaves clvnd. It all depends on what one understands and believes. Has nothing to do with hate.
                                Yeah well for the sake of trying to keep this thread on topic I'll just strongly disagree here.
                                Last edited by da ThRONe; 07-08-2010, 02:58 PM.
                                You looking at the Chair MAN!

                                Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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