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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
I obviously don't know what trolling is. Enlighten me on how exactly I'm "trolling".
Anyhow, I'm listening to the ESPN's Cleveland radio right now, and they mentioned something along the lines of LeBron should be concerned with the health of himself and his family if he chooses someplace other than Cleveland. My question is, why would he want to go back to a City that'd turn completely hostile towards himself and his family if he put his own well being ahead of that of his "fans"?Comment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Valuable asset with a bad contract that was bad from the get go.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
I obviously don't know what trolling is. Enlighten me on how exactly I'm "trolling".
Anyhow, I'm listening to the ESPN's Cleveland radio right now, and they mentioned something along the lines of LeBron should be concerned with the health of himself and his family if he chooses someplace other than Cleveland. My question is, why would he want to go back to a City that'd turn completely hostile towards himself and his family if he put his own well being ahead of that of his "fans"?#RespectTheCultureComment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
So looks like Lebron is turning his back on Cleveland...Man, the first game back in town is gonna be a CIRCUS!
This still leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth for reasons i've stated before but I have to admit there's a morbid curiosity involved in seeing how it goes in Miami.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
"Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. ParkerComment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Did a quick search and didn't see it, so:
The Bath Township police department will be providing security around the house of LeBron James on Thursday, as he announces his free agency decision in Greenwich, Connecticut.
Police Chief Michael McNeeley said they have an extra squad of police officers working around James home.Comment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Does anyone think this situation is similar to Ken Griffey Jr. leaving Seattle in his prime to play for Cincinnati?Comment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
By who?
He is the best player in the league and will be next season no matter where he plays.
There is an unbelievable amount of hate floating around. People want him to do whats best for them or their personal ideals not whats best for him which is just crazy. At this point he's damned if he dont & damned if he do.
Secondly, it is not about what is best for him or for the league, it is about what one understands about competition. I don't think he knows what is best for him, if he did, he would'nt be doing that 1hr crapfest tonight.
I am sure you are familiar with the saying a captain goes down with his ship. From the outside looking in, that is a foolish thing to do but from a captains point of view it is the thing to do, it is about honor and code. In basketball it is about the spirit of competition and winning. So, sometimes it is not about getting your ring but rather how you get it.
In the case of the self proclaimed king (lebron), he has been heralded as the next great player, chosen 1, etc...anyone with that perception of himself is claiming to be a captain. The spirit of the captain is such that he steers his ship (team) to clearer navigable waters (championships). When it gets rough, you don't abandon ship, you grip the wheel and ride it out! If you are a true captain (leader, king).
A king does not abandon his kingdom in times of great turmoil, a captain never abandons his ship and a man takes care of home. Depending upon how you view these codes of conduct and mottos, goes along way into understanding why some don't feel Lebron if he leaves clvnd. It all depends on what one understands and believes. Has nothing to do with hate.Comment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Yeah that's a different point... just gotta give Shaq some kind of credit for showing up and nobody seems to be doing that. But I think Brown gets most of the blame for how everyone else looked. Neither Mo or Jamison are spot up shooters. Hickson is of great value if you run an uptempo offense, and I actually would say West is too ("great" value is a stretch with West but definitely valuable). Sideshow Bob is also a better offensive option if they push the ball and run more pick and rolls in the half court. The only way it can really be proven is if James goes back to Cleveland and we see how the core looks under Scott (even though I know you love him). But even still, as someone mentioned earlier, I find it very hard to believe that James can carry a team to 60 wins two straight years but the difference of playoff ball is SO big that he can't carry them in the playoffs. Bottom line is the team is better than they get credit for and they've had playoff success as well. Not everybody wins a ring and the Cavs were one of a handful of teams with the ability to do it. That's why I brought up the Magic and Celtics who aren't getting hammered for not winning a ring or even making it back to the finals like the Cavs have been.You looking at the Chair MAN!
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Not getting into the Lakers thing unless it directly relates to where Lebron is going, and I think it has passed that point. Kobe is a 5 time champion and most likely going down as a top ten player, and possibly the greatest Laker of All Time.
We're discussing the guy who still has yet to get anywhere near that convo. Here's the thing: I'm not against Lebron leaving Cleveland. If Lebron is convinced that he can't win without a perennial All Star, then I can't fault that logic, and NY, Chicago and Miami all go onto the table. In Chicago, I think he has the best possible chance to have his cake and eat it too. Great team, great city and he's still the man, despite the fact that we may be looking at a 45-50 win team without him over the next couple of years. Forget about overtaking Jordan and just be MJ-Lite. I get it.
In NY, he's taking the identical path to Dwyane Wade. Management and coaching in NYC have a better precedent than in Chicago, the owner is known for spending, the team has cap space, and what few players are on the roster are all shooters for the interim where he'd be waiting for the rest of the cap space to clear. Winning in NYC would bring immortality, and he'd have to do less of it to be the hero, since NY hasn't won since Michael Jackson was alive and black.
In Miami...ehh...I'm not going to say I have a flat out problem with it in the sense that I understand. You're watching Kobe and Boston play championship tennis, and you're sick of it. All three of them are sick of it, but Lebron most of all, because Kobe is winning on his clock. This is supposed to be the Lebron era, but people are talking about how KOBE can win two or three more rings. That's unacceptable, and I understand doing anything to stop it, especially since this is a rare opportunity, and this contract takes you past the big 3-0. What I don't like is that Wade an Lebron are supposed to be a rivalry, not an alliance. I got no problem with Lebron/Bosh or Bosh/Wade, but Lebron/Bosh/Wade is the path of least resistance. For perspective, just think about how you'd feel if you joined a Fantasy Draft 2k11 league and saw that team on there. Most people would say "can I put Durant on the Lakers?"
My real issue is what he's doing to the city of Cleveland if he leaves, and what he's doing to the owners/coaches/players of all the teams no matter what. It is so utterly classless and unprofessional to make a spectacle of declining a job offer, and on top of that, leaving your home team with nothing to show for it. If he leaves, we'll see the ugly aftermath. There will be a lot of tears in Cleveland. That sports culture has suffered plenty(I mean, you lose your football team, get them back and they're still the Browns??yuck), but to be destroyed in front of the entire country, to watch another city get your best, and to have it all happen at the hands of a born and bred phenom like this?
I really can't imagine it. Having the best athlete in NBA history born in your backyard is a stroke of luck that a city like Cleveland deserves, but having him do this to you just makes it the setup of the most vile joke in sports.
As LeBron continues to win MVPs and wins at minimum three championships, I think he becomes the next best player since Jordan, or even better than Jordan, regardless of where he wins those rings. He needs to get out of Cleveland if he wants to do that.
And I agree, he's really making a lot of people look very desperate and sad in Cleveland. They bent over backwards for him and he's making it worse on everyone there by dragging this thing along. It's bad enough that he's leaving, but he could have shown a little more class than he has.
Then again, maybe he's not leaving?Comment
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
Lebron is LEAVING his hometown to chase a ring with his buddies. There's not much of a similarity.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread
First of all let's get it straight, Lebron aint the best player in the league, Kobe is currently the best player in the league, and if Lebron goes to miami, it will be questionable that he is the best player on his team.
Secondly, it is not about what is best for him or for the league, it is about what one understands about competition. I don't think he knows what is best for him, if he did, he would'nt be doing that 1hr crapfest tonight.
I am sure you are familiar with the saying a captain goes down with his ship. From the outside looking in, that is a foolish thing to do but from a captains point of view it is the thing to do, it is about honor and code. In basketball it is about the spirit of competition and winning. So, sometimes it is not about getting your ring but rather how you get it.
In the case of the self proclaimed king (lebron), he has been heralded as the next great player, chosen 1, etc...anyone with that perception of himself is claiming to be a captain. The spirit of the captain is such that he steers his ship (team) to clearer navigable waters (championships). When it gets rough, you don't abandon ship, you grip the wheel and ride it out! If you are a true captain (leader, king).
A king does not abandon his kingdom in times of great turmoil, a captain never abandons his ship and a man takes care of home. Depending upon how you view these codes of conduct and mottos, goes along way into understanding why some don't feel Lebron if he leaves clvnd. It all depends on what one understands and believes. Has nothing to do with hate.Last edited by da ThRONe; 07-08-2010, 02:58 PM.You looking at the Chair MAN!
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