The LeBron James Thread

[luv_mist]

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Man oh man how things change. Spo suddenly is a terrible coach eh? He was D-Wade's boy and now suddenly he's the problem that has to go cause he's too hard on them? Never would have imagined this thing going this badly to start. This is how it starts though. Wade wants his boy Spo to keep his job and Bron wants godfather Riles to take over. Sooner or later dudes start bumping heads with this tension. Riles don't want nothing to do with taking over this team yet, there's too much work to be done this year, the roster isn't perfect yet the Lakers and Celtics are still too good. Riles is about the same as his prized acquisitions in the fact that he wants the easiest route possible to a title. Obviously there is no easy road to a title as there is always going to be something come up to challenge you, but some challenges simply are easier than others.

Riley won't take over because they don't have a legitimate big man to carry the team. He's smarter than that. Can't win if your center isn't at least a little above average in something.......

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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That post certainly suggests otherwise, regardless of what you've said previously.

As if averaging a triple dub is just that easy.

I don't like LeBron, I hope the Heat miss the playoffs. I wish they just signed Bosh an not Bron. I wish they would go 0-72. So trust me I was not one of those guys. I dislike LeBron almost as much as that one dude whos always bashing Kobe dislikes Kobe.

[King_B_Mack]

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Riley won't take over because they don't have a legitimate big man to carry the team. He's smarter than that. Can't win if your center isn't at least a little above average in something.......

Noted in the 'roster is not perfect' line I said in the post playa.

On another note, Cleveland needs to somehow get over .500 by Thursday. It seems that's almost a guranteed loss for the Heat that way since they suck against winning teams. Miami may explode for real though if they lose to the Cavs Thursday. Evil LeBron is going to show his *** for real if they lose that game just watch. **** is going to hit the fan if Thursday don't go how he wants.

[The 24th Letter]

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Lol watching the Spurs/Hornets replay from yesterday....Duncan actually nudges Pop on the way back to huddle......GASP.

[albsur2003]

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Riley won't take over because they don't have a legitimate big man to carry the team. He's smarter than that. Can't win if your center isn't at least a little above average in something.......

Exactly...Riley only would come into a situation where he felt confident he was gonna get some glory hahaha.

I'm honestly a little surprised with how Wade's personality and dominance is just GONE this year. I knew that James was a better player but I thought Wade was a better leader than this. Wade is busy worrying that he's quite not the star he thought he was once Lebron came to town, Lebron is busy deferring to Wade and Bosh and looking for scapegoats already because he doesn't know how to lead, and Bosh is busy wearing skinny pants and going to fashion shows. Nobody's worried ENOUGH about winning, there is NO sense of urgency. The team's problem is that all three thought they would be able to come in and win right away and be best friends and have a party every night. Now that there's issues, and all three don't want to say anything and call each other out. IMO if Lebron wants to win a championship so bad and live up to the praise that so many people give him, he needs to actually lead. Stop having players only meetings. Lebron has ALL the power in this situation pretty much, USE IT!!! Tell the coach what you think should be happening. Work with him. I'd respect a headline that said "Lebron challenges Spolestra about philosophy in meeting" or something like that as long as he's being constructive and not just whining. If he wants to post up more or run more screens or whatever, challenge Spolestra. Don't just do nothing so someone else can get blamed. He'd rather clown around in practice like a 12 year old. Lebron is a baby, he's been coddled since he was 16 until now, and he still hasn't grown up. And it's showing right now. I hope this guy finally gets it.

[King_B_Mack]

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LOL OMG at Chris Broussard on Sportscenter just a few minutes ago. Pounding the drum that the three want to win a championship and want to win one this year despite all reports pointing to them just wanting to sit on they're *** and party. Then he goes on to mention how LeBron gave up a lot leaving Cleveland and how...I'm not even joking he said Chris Bosh gave up a lot leaving Toronto so they feel whatever it takes needs to be done to win this year even if it means making a coaching change. Nevermind trying to change playing styles so that this thing will actually work and you know...being serious as the coach asked. Allegedly.

[capp34]

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So Stockton, Malone, Barkely,Ewing, etc.. or not some of the best of the best ever?

If Nash doesn't when a ring he shouldn't be considered a best of the best?

There is only one champion per season. Teams when championships, not players. Its fair to use the championship barometer when talking about teams but not individual player placement in history. Just to further back up my point, if Dan Marino played for the 49ers, Steelers, or Cowboys and their QB's played for the Dolphins, he automatically becomes a better QB?

So if Jordan, Magic or Bird won zero titles do you think they would still be in the same place in NBA history.

[King_B_Mack]

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So if Jordan, Magic or Bird won zero titles do you think they would still be in the same place in NBA history.

Checkmate here. Titles are everything in sports as far as being the best goes. There are lots of great players across all leagues, but when discussing the best of the best only the ones with the championships are the ones who truly matter. For example if Charles Barkley had a few titles to his name how would he stand now in league history? Same for Malone, how would his spot be different?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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So Stockton, Malone, Barkely,Ewing, etc.. or not some of the best of the best ever?

If Nash doesn't when a ring he shouldn't be considered a best of the best?

There is only one champion per season. Teams when championships, not players. Its fair to use the championship barometer when talking about teams but not individual player placement in history. Just to further back up my point, if Dan Marino played for the 49ers, Steelers, or Cowboys and their QB's played for the Dolphins, he automatically becomes a better QB?

Except that's not what I said.

[DieHardYankee26]

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So if Jordan, Magic or Bird won zero titles do you think they would still be in the same place in NBA history.

Honestly, yes. Now if Bill Russell hadn't won any titles, I think that would lower him on the NBA history totem pole by quite a bit, given that his claim to fame other than defense is being the greatest winner in any sport (I believe). But, Jordan, Magic, and Bird, three of the most transcendent athletes in the history of American sport, two being the saviors of basketball, and one being the reason the sport is so popular now, I don't think them having never won a championship would change much.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Checkmate here. Titles are everything in sports as far as being the best goes. There are lots of great players across all leagues, but when discussing the best of the best only the ones with the championships are the ones who truly matter. For example if Charles Barkley had a few titles to his name how would he stand now in league history? Same for Malone, how would his spot be different?

I like the way you think, kid.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Honestly, yes. Now if Bill Russell hadn't won any titles, I think that would lower him on the NBA history totem pole by quite a bit, given that his claim to fame other than defense is being the greatest winner in any sport (I believe). But, Jordan, Magic, and Bird, three of the most transcendent athletes in the history of American sport, two being the saviors of basketball, and one being the reason the sport is so popular now, I don't think them having never won a championship would change much.

Honestly, I don't know how to argue this with you, but you're wrong. If Jordan had zero championships, there's no way people would still say he's the best of all-time almost unanimously the way it is now.

[JBH3]

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Ultimately what I think kills Spolestra's clout with stars like LeBaby and Bosh is that he was never an NBA player, and for that matter an NBA player w/ any merit/pedigree.

[OSUFan_88]

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Ultimately what I think kills Spolestra's clout with stars like LeBaby and Bosh is that he was never an NBA player, and for that matter an NBA player w/ any merit/pedigree.

Nah, it's the discipline.

Bosh and LeBitch thought it would be the easiest thing they have ever done and Spo is demanding effort and physical play.

I hope Spo gets fired and Riles comes in...then we'll really see a miserable LeBitch.

[JBH3]

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Nah, it's the discipline.

Bosh and LeBitch thought it would be the easiest thing they have ever done and Spo is demanding effort and physical play.

I hope Spo gets fired and Riles comes in...then we'll really see a miserable LeBitch.

Which is essentially what I'm getting at.... If these more than reasonable demands were coming from an esteemed coach, or a coach who played the game at a high level...for all intents and purposes Avery Johnson or Mo Cheeks, then I'd think...or at least like to think that it would have some resonance... at least w/ the media.