Re: Where does LeBron rank all-time?
That's great. He still isn't racking up triple doubles with ease.
Yes. Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, etc.
Moreover, can LeBron post 20 & 20 numbers the way Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, and Rondo can? See how arbitrary a measure that is?
That's non consequential.
That's also non consequential.
And LeBron isn't close to them offensively. I'm speaking skill wise, not volume wise. But I will give you that LeBron is definitely the superior defensive player. Though, a 22 year old LeBron isn't LeBron defensively.
I agree, but they aren't asked to be. Both are pretty good passers though.
No, he isn't. Durant averaged more rebounds last season, LeBron averaged more rebounds this season. Durant has averaged more during the playoffs.
If we're comparing them at similar stages in their careers, as in LeBron's rebounding skill at 22 in comparison to Durant's, Durant has the edge. Actually, to be honest, it's pretty much even.
You really don't want to tread those waters. Someone could just as easily argue that LeBron's assist numbers are more a reflection of his ball dominance than his court vision or passing ability. It's really just a lofty argument.
Further cementing my stance that this "once in a lifetime athlete" talk is mere hyperbole. And then there's Blake Griffin, and others.
Nope, and neither is LeBron. So that's a moot point. People raving about LeBron's defense on Rose forget the fact that Rose has performed poorly throughout the playoffs, and at one point, was stifled by rookie Paul George.
Durant and Gerald Wallace can't play the 1 offensively. They aren't asked to. Durant and Wallace can play the 4 on offense though, and do so more effectively than LeBron does.
A lot of players are unselfish passers. I'm not sure exactly how that validates the Rondo court vision comparison?
So have Chris Paul, Kobe, Dwayne Wade, Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Love, Kevin Durant, etc. LeBron is a great player. He isn't a tier above everyone as most would have you believe.
He's 9th all time in triple doubles, despite having about half the playing experience of the rest of the top 10.
But can a ton of other players put up 40 one night and then put up 20, 10, and 10 the next?
Moreover, can LeBron post 20 & 20 numbers the way Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, and Rondo can? See how arbitrary a measure that is?
You can't really count Dwight considering he doesn't even shoot the ball...
Durant and Dirk shot just as well, if not better than LeBron, but they're shooters. That's what they do.
Neither of them are close to LeBron defensively
nor are they close to LeBron when it comes to passing.
LeBron's a better rebounder than Durant
If we're comparing them at similar stages in their careers, as in LeBron's rebounding skill at 22 in comparison to Durant's, Durant has the edge. Actually, to be honest, it's pretty much even.
and while he isn't better than Dirk, he also doesn't play defense right next to the hoop like Dirk either.
I kinda disagree. Dwight was the #1 pick because of the fact that his combination of athleticism and strength hadn't been seen since at least Shaq.
Come on dude... Durant isn't about to keep Derrick Rose in front of him...
You name these players that can defend multiple positions, but none of them can also play those positions on the offensive end. Wallace and Durant aren't about to play like Magic Johnson offensively.
I'm saying he's an unselfish passer who more often than not puts his teammates in the best positions to score, once again evidenced by his triple doubles despite being one of the best scorers in the NBA.
LeBron has posted historic numbers in his career too.
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