The future for the NBA?

[Rocky]

Re: The future for the NBA?

This is simply a "How to Buy a Championship" manual.

And it's a recipe for disaster.

The league will suffer because you've pulled superstars out of their smaller markets and it just trickles down the national fanbase.

Ohio'ers have a right to be mad.

I don't think it's a small market v. big market thing.

San Antonio, Portland, Utah, Orlando, OKC have just as good a shot as any to topple the big 3.

I think it's all about teams tanking in hopes they get that two or three stars to play together. I loved the fact that it bit the Knicks in the butt, but hopefully a guy like Deron Williams or Carmelo doesn't think he needs to follow another player to win a ring.

[ehh]

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I think it's a good thing for the NBA. It will be like the NBA have a "Rock Star" team, just like the Bulls in the 90's.

Cept MJ & the Bulls were beloved, this team will be hated. Which isn't quite as good for the ratings but they'll still boost ratings like crazy.

The new CBA will probably have to take this into consideration. Maybe they could put in place a rule where only 2 max deals are allowed per team (unless you have Bird rights) to try to stop this sort of gutting a team then reloading with stars thing from happening in the future. Doesn't help stop the Heat over the next 5 years though......

LBJ and Wade aren't taking max deals, dunno about Bosh, so that wouldn't help.




The problem with this team is that Kobe & the Lakers and the Celtics are on borrowed time. Once their run is over in 2-3 years then the league could be in major trouble. The Heat will have had plenty of time to acquire all the pieces needed through exceptions, the draft and trades by the time LA & BOS are done.

I have trouble seeing how this team doesn't run the NBA from 2012-2016 or so. I don't think dynasties are bad things for any sport, but when you have the two best players in the league on the same team it might get a little boring. If they get to a point where this team is destroying everyone in a few years (which more likely than not) then it will turn off a ton of casual fans.

The Bulls are obviously in the best position looking down the road, though Boozer isn't a spring chicken. The Knicks, if they can get one of their big targets they're looking at over the next three years (Melo, CP3, Deron) might cause some trouble. Hopefully the Thunder can continue to build and will provide a challenge down the road.

[ehh]

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I think it's all about teams tanking in hopes they get that two or three stars to play together. I loved the fact that it bit the Knicks in the butt

How did it bite us in the butt? We're going to have our best and player team in a decade with youth and cap space.

Rewind to 2008 and Zeke's mess, you take over the Knicks. What do you do differently to revive the Knicks? This was a necessary step regardless of who we got. I'm very happy with where the team stands right now given the last decade.

[Kashanova]

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Cept MJ & the Bulls were beloved, this team will be hated. Which isn't quite as good for the ratings but they'll still boost ratings like crazy.



LBJ and Wade aren't taking max deals, dunno about Bosh, so that wouldn't help.




The problem with this team is that Kobe & the Lakers and the Celtics are on borrowed time. Once their run is over in 2-3 years then the league could be in major trouble. The Heat will have had plenty of time to acquire all the pieces needed through exceptions, the draft and trades by the time LA & BOS are done.

I have trouble seeing how this team doesn't run the NBA from 2012-2016 or so. I don't think dynasties are bad things for any sport, but when you have the two best players in the league on the same team it might get a little boring. If they get to a point where this team is destroying everyone in a few years (which more likely than not) then it will turn off a ton of casual fans.

The Bulls are obviously in the best position looking down the road, though Boozer isn't a spring chicken. The Knicks, if they can get one of their big targets they're looking at over the next three years (Melo, CP3, Deron) might cause some trouble. Hopefully the Thunder can continue to build and will provide a challenge down the road.

it'll be like the yanks or mayweather.... people will watch to see them lose

[jmood88]

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The same teams have been winning in the NBA for awhile so I don't see how this changes the league in any way, other than the location of the new dominant team.

[23]

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Agreed Jmood

This is a huge overreaction

Calling a team with a roster not even full a superteam is ridiculous

Bosh and Lebron are unproven, and only one of those two is really a star player

Thats it. This is the day of the big 3 not the big 2 anymore.

[ehh]

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The same teams have been winning in the NBA for awhile so I don't see how this changes the league in any way, other than the location of the new dominant team.

Because we're in danger of a new 1999-2007 era where there are only 2-3 good teams in the league (not even contenders, just good teams). Little drama, low ratings.....

[Dice]

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The new CBA will probably have to take this into consideration. Maybe they could put in place a rule where only 2 max deals are allowed per team (unless you have Bird rights) to try to stop this sort of gutting a team then reloading with stars thing from happening in the future. Doesn't help stop the Heat over the next 5 years though......

Personally i think this super team in MIA could work in the nba's favor in a similar way to how the Bulls 72-10 season where the team almost became bigger than the league itself and it was like a travelling rock show going from town to town. I know Mia is a relatively small market (i saw a post saying it was the 17th largest tv market in the US) but every game they play will be an absolute sellout both home and away and they will just about be all nationally / internationally telecast.

I was going to post something similar. BUT I think the new CBA now is going to institute a hard cap now. The owners have been talking about it for a while and at first it wasn't too favorable. NOW, after this, the owners now have the fans on their side because majority of NBA fans do not want to see this happen again. And if you have a hard cap(like the NFL) this would be impossible without one of the stars taking a significant pay cut.

[23]

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Because we're in danger of a new 1999-2007 era where there are only 2-3 good teams in the league (not even contenders, just good teams). Little drama, low ratings.....

I guess thats what alot of these teams get for tanking and overpaying players who dont deserve it huh?

[jmood88]

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Because we're in danger of a new 1999-2007 era where there are only 2-3 good teams in the league (not even contenders, just good teams). Little drama, low ratings.....

This isn't going to change teams from trying to win games. The Lakers and Spurs have been pretty much the only teams winning championships the past decade but I never saw the whole sky is falling proclamation from anyone.

[ehh]

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I guess thats what alot of these teams get for tanking and overpaying players who dont deserve it huh?

What are their other options?

"Build like the Thunder"? Ah, yes, we should all pray the best scorer to come into the league in 25 years will fall into our lap.

[ehh]

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This isn't going to change teams from trying to win games. The Lakers and Spurs have been pretty much the only teams winning championships the past decade but I never saw the whole sky is falling proclamation from anyone.

I didn't think the sky was falling then nor do I now, but as I said the NBA was absolutely terrible from 1999-2007. I don't think a lot of younger dudes realize how bad it was because it's all they know.

[23]

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What are their other options?

"Build like the Thunder"? Ah, yes, we should all pray the best scorer to come into the league in 25 years will fall into our lap.

Blazers started all the way over didnt they?

PHX could've had a legit super team had the owner not got greedy and wanted to keep all the money for himself

Stay away from the NY model... giving big money to players like Eddie Curry and taking everyone's trash while also trading away your draft picks.

Actually have a plan to win instead of settling to be mediocre forever like Donald Sterlings Clippers

I could go on but please man, alot of teams tanked the last few years for cap space not trying to win and you know it because they Knicks did it too and they lucked up on Amare. Much better option and attraction than freaking Douglas or Wilson Chandler

[tehova]

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just go to 14 teams man please

[ehh]

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Blazers started all the way over didnt they?

PHX could've had a legit super team had the owner not got greedy and wanted to keep all the money for himself

Stay away from the NY model... giving big money to players like Eddie Curry and taking everyone's trash while also trading away your draft picks.

Actually have a plan to win instead of settling to be mediocre forever like Donald Sterlings Clippers

I could go on but please man, alot of teams tanked the last few years for cap space not trying to win and you know it because they Knicks did it too and they lucked up on Amare. Much better option and attraction than freaking Douglas or Wilson Chandler

Yeah, the Blazers started over......and haven't won a playoff series since.

No other team, as far as I can remember, has ever been in the shape that the Knicks were after Zeke's mess. Seriously though, what could they have possibly done differently that was a better plan? Keep some of our picks? So we'd have Brandon Jennings and Gordon Hayward on our team now.

Where is that taking us?