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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #586
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

    Had no idea people overrated Iggy so much on here.

    He does exactly ONE thing and that is jump.
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    Urban Meyer is lol.

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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24450

      #587
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
      Had no idea people overrated Iggy so much on here.

      He does exactly ONE thing and that is jump.
      As opposed to the one thing Gallo does? Never thought I'd see the day where saying Iggy is better than Gallo meant overrating him lol.

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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #588
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        As opposed to the one thing Gallo does? Never thought I'd see the day where saying Iggy is better than Gallo meant overrating him lol.
        At least Gallo's one thing is an actual basketball talent.
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        Urban Meyer is lol.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #589
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

          And Gallo does more than one thing?

          I can't believe you just said that haha.

          I do think Iggy is vastly overrated [according to his salary], and I wouldn't want him on my team with that contract. But if all things are equal Iggy is the better player my leaps and bounds.

          Iggy plays defense and can play defense at a high level. He's obviously not the best of shooters from mid to deep but he has his moments and isn't too terribly inefficient.

          His transition game is next to none.

          He rebounds and isn't afraid to mix things up with the big guys. Not to mention you can't knock his assist numbers over the past 4 years. I was somewhat surprised to see the production.

          As far as Gallo, like the guy, like his demeanor and yeah he puts the ball on the deck a bit... but I always take production in DanPhony's system with three grains of salt.

          I'm trying to just judge skill set and what I see is a very one-sided matchup with Iggy basically being better than him in every fashion. I wouldn't even care which system they were going in to, I'd rather have Iggy if the contract wasn't attached to him. No contest.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #590
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

            Even as the resident Gallo homer on OS I have to laugh at Gallo being compared to Iggy at this point.

            Give it 3-4 more years though.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #591
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

              Originally posted by ehh
              Even as the resident Gallo homer on OS I have to laugh at Gallo being compared to Iggy at this point.

              Give it 3-4 more years though.
              I was gonna say, not to make it sound like Gallo couldn't eventually become more well-rounded [or a Peja-est/Reggie knockdown three-point shooter], just right now you're comparing a borderline All-Star with a role player.

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              • Streets
                Supreme
                • Aug 2004
                • 5787

                #592
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                I wasn't going to jump on OSU like everyone else because I thought he was talking about the overall package Denver would receive. They don't want older players or bigger contracts and unfortunately, Iggy fits the bill for both. Gallo is younger and has a good contract, so in that sense he is a better player for Denver.

                Then my man had to clarify and say that Gallo is clearly the better player and all Iggy can do is jump. I know it's been awhile, but there's a whole other side of the game called defense. It's the thing other teams play that cause the Knicks to miss shots and lose games. Iggy is kind of good at that. Not to mention he can pass, slash, rebound, run the break, finish in traffic, create contact, and is a decent enough shooter for a #1 option with no other marquee players to take pressure off him.

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                • OSUFan_88
                  Outback Jesus
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 25642

                  #593
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                  Originally posted by Streets
                  I wasn't going to jump on OSU like everyone else because I thought he was talking about the overall package Denver would receive. They don't want older players or bigger contracts and unfortunately, Iggy fits the bill for both. Gallo is younger and has a good contract, so in that sense he is a better player for Denver.

                  Then my man had to clarify and say that Gallo is clearly the better player and all Iggy can do is jump. I know it's been awhile, but there's a whole other side of the game called defense. It's the thing other teams play that cause the Knicks to miss shots and lose games. Iggy is kind of good at that. Not to mention he can pass, slash, rebound, run the break, finish in traffic, create contact, and is a decent enough shooter for a #1 option with no other marquee players to take pressure off him.
                  And if you leave out all of those other things other than defense, I totally agree with you!

                  Iggy is massively overrated. His passing is average at best, his rebounding is average for his size, and the rest is general athletic ability that has nothing to do with actual basketball talent. Oh, and he also cannot shoot either.

                  Iggy is to me what Dirk is to AlexBrady. You will not change my mind. Move on.

                  Edit: And yes, I know my hate is totally irrational.
                  Last edited by OSUFan_88; 09-29-2010, 12:28 PM.
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                  Urban Meyer is lol.

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                  • Cebby
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 22327

                    #594
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                    Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                    And if you leave out all of those other things other than defense, I totally agree with you!

                    Iggy is massively overrated. His passing is average at best, his rebounding is average for his size, and the rest is general athletic ability that has nothing to do with actual basketball talent. Oh, and he also cannot shoot either.

                    Iggy is to me what Dirk is to AlexBrady. You will not change my mind. Move on.

                    Edit: And yes, I know my hate is totally irrational.
                    Iggy may be "massively overrated" but that has nothing to do with comparing him to Gallo.

                    Dwight Howard and every top point guard in the NBA are massively overrated but that doesn't mean that say...Lamar Odom is better than them.

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                    • Jukeman
                      Showtime
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10955

                      #595
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                      At least Gallo's one thing is an actual basketball talent.


                      Im sure that average Joe who could hit 100 3's out 200 attempts at his local YMCA is sitting at his PC at this...

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                      • da ThRONe
                        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8528

                        #596
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                        Originally posted by Cebby
                        Iggy may be "massively overrated" but that has nothing to do with comparing him to Gallo.

                        Dwight Howard and every top point guard in the NBA are massively overrated but that doesn't mean that say...Lamar Odom is better than them.
                        How is Chris Paul and Deron Williams overrated?
                        You looking at the Chair MAN!

                        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #597
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                          Because people think the Hornets are so good that Jannero Pargo is the piece that makes they're prediction of the Hornets finishing above a five seed a legit reality now. Deron Williams...not really sure but it probably has to do with Utah's constant finishing in the middle of the pack in the West in the playoffs every year when the talent on that team should be more than a team that can't make it to the WCF every year.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #598
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                            Originally posted by da ThRONe
                            How is Chris Paul and Deron Williams overrated?
                            My guess is if you look at the list of title winners you won't really see point guards who were considered the best of the best in the league.. last time this happened was when Isaiah/Pistons won in 1990.

                            So basically I think he's saying PG's should not be mentioned with Kobe/LeBron/Wade/Shaq/Duncan.

                            Not sure if that's his point but that's my best guess.

                            There is a handful of "great" point guards who have led their teams to the Finals though.. GP, Stockton, Kidd

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #599
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                              In addition to what Ex said you could argue the rule changes in the last decade play a big role in the fact that NBA is a "point guard league" now and that there are so many great PG's.

                              No guards were getting into to the paint so easily prior to the 2000's. The game is far less physical on the perimeter and is officiated to allow more entertainment, oops, I mean offense. Just like the NFL changing rules to favor offense and not allow the D to be as physical with WR's.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • Cebby
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 22327

                                #600
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                                How is Chris Paul and Deron Williams overrated?
                                Statistically since Magic Johnson you have as much of a chance winning a championship with a poster from OS than you do of winning with an All NBA point guard.

                                So basically I think he's saying PG's should not be mentioned with Kobe/LeBron/Wade/Shaq/Duncan.
                                More or less

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