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  • Game4fun
    Rookie
    • Jun 2010
    • 201

    #856
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

    Denver's roster with Carmelo was never suited to win a championship. There Bigs were never good enough. The role players never showed up when they had to. Carmelo couldnt do it all by himself. What a suprise! Camby, Nene, Martin, Anderson don't equal to gasol, garnet, shaq, duncan ect...... The thought that Carmelo had a roster to win a championship is comical to me. lol. By the way before Carmelo got there they never had a shot in this world even being mentioned competeing with the top teams in the NBA.

    Lets not act like he is overrated as much as Vince Carter or something. Because we all know who is more overrated! lol
    Last edited by Game4fun; 11-01-2010, 05:50 AM.

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    • TMagic
      G.O.A.T.
      • Apr 2007
      • 7550

      #857
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

      For those of you who think that Melo and Rose are not a good match...Why?

      I can't agree with the notion that Melo would take away from or hinder Rose.

      One of the great things about Melo is that he doesn't necessarily need the ball for long to score. He goes to work quick on offense. Matter of fact, it's one of the reasons he's been so great for Team USA and it's one of the things Coach K likes about him on the team. He's a quick scorer.

      Melo doesn't waste time or dribble on offense. So his game is not akin to a LeBron or Wade in that they need the ball in their hands to be effective. They both would take away from Rose's game because of how ball dominant they are. Melo is NOT a ball dominating player which would allow Rose to still be the guy with the ball in his hands for the majority of the time.

      Another thing that I think makes this combination work is that Melo does not operate on the perimeter like Rose. He works from the low post up to about 15-17 feet for the most part. Again, this allows Rose to be out on the perimeter to play to his best strength which is driving and the pick and roll game. They operate on completely different areas on the floor offensively which would allow them both to play where the most effective without interfering with the others game.

      Melo is the best one on one player in the league along with Kobe. He doesn't require the pick and roll to score. Compare this again to Wade or LeBron who use the pick and roll extensively to get their offense going, similar to Rose. Melo gets his just playing straight up for the most part. So I can see why they would take away from Rose's game. I don't see how Melo would.

      The closest comparison we have is Westbrook and Durant in OKC. Another explosive, scoring point guard and another guy who is a quick, non-ball dominating scorer. They work great together. In Chicago, I can see the same, if not better success with a Rose and Melo combination.
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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #858
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

        How is Melo playing anyway?
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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #859
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

          I agree with Tmagic's assessment, although Melo doesn't take as many 3s as KD does, for the most part he's spot on about Melo's game.

          Melo is playing just fine by the way man. Just watched them marauder Houston a couple of nights ago with him having no problems.

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #860
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

            Someone teach that man some D. That's all I'm asking for.
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #861
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

              Originally posted by 23
              I agree with Tmagic's assessment, although Melo doesn't take as many 3s as KD does, for the most part he's spot on about Melo's game.

              Melo is playing just fine by the way man. Just watched them marauder Houston a couple of nights ago with him having no problems.
              I see KD more as a catch and shoot guy. Like he works within the system to get his shots. While Melo is like was said before. Don't have to call a play for him. Just give him the rock. But also I don't see Melo having problems fitting in any where in the really lol.

              Its so funny to me though. For someone who has all these rumors and trade talk going on. That he is actually playing and playing well. I remember the Vince Carter thing. And a few other players who took the shady road to get off of a team. It must be weird in the locker room though.
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              • PrettyT11
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 3220

                #862
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                My problem with the trade has never had anything to do with the offensive side of the court. My complaint has always been what it will do to the team defensively. Too many people here are just hung up on the idea that Melo would add so much scoring and such that they are forgetting just how horrible of a defensive team we would be with the move. I can say enough just how horrible of a defensive front court Melo, Boozer, and Kurt Thomas/Gibson would be. We would go from having arguably the best rebounding team in basketball to arguably the worst defensive front court in basketball. That isn't a blueprint for winning. It doesn't matter if you score 105 points a night if you are giving up 110 or more. You can't win a title if you are a weak defensive team. It has never happened and it never will.

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #863
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                  ^^Bingo^^

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #864
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    I see KD more as a catch and shoot guy. Like he works within the system to get his shots. While Melo is like was said before. Don't have to call a play for him. Just give him the rock. But also I don't see Melo having problems fitting in any where in the really lol.

                    Its so funny to me though. For someone who has all these rumors and trade talk going on. That he is actually playing and playing well. I remember the Vince Carter thing. And a few other players who took the shady road to get off of a team. It must be weird in the locker room though.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • Dice
                      Sitting by the door
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6627

                      #865
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                      Originally posted by TMagic
                      For those of you who think that Melo and Rose are not a good match...Why?

                      I can't agree with the notion that Melo would take away from or hinder Rose.

                      One of the great things about Melo is that he doesn't necessarily need the ball for long to score. He goes to work quick on offense. Matter of fact, it's one of the reasons he's been so great for Team USA and it's one of the things Coach K likes about him on the team. He's a quick scorer.

                      Melo doesn't waste time or dribble on offense. So his game is not akin to a LeBron or Wade in that they need the ball in their hands to be effective. They both would take away from Rose's game because of how ball dominant they are. Melo is NOT a ball dominating player which would allow Rose to still be the guy with the ball in his hands for the majority of the time.

                      Another thing that I think makes this combination work is that Melo does not operate on the perimeter like Rose. He works from the low post up to about 15-17 feet for the most part. Again, this allows Rose to be out on the perimeter to play to his best strength which is driving and the pick and roll game. They operate on completely different areas on the floor offensively which would allow them both to play where the most effective without interfering with the others game.

                      Melo is the best one on one player in the league along with Kobe. He doesn't require the pick and roll to score. Compare this again to Wade or LeBron who use the pick and roll extensively to get their offense going, similar to Rose. Melo gets his just playing straight up for the most part. So I can see why they would take away from Rose's game. I don't see how Melo would.

                      The closest comparison we have is Westbrook and Durant in OKC. Another explosive, scoring point guard and another guy who is a quick, non-ball dominating scorer. They work great together. In Chicago, I can see the same, if not better success with a Rose and Melo combination.
                      Once again, the only poster in this thread making sense.
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                      • mKoz26
                        In case you forgot...
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4685

                        #866
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                        Originally posted by Dice
                        Once again, the only poster in this thread making sense.
                        Oh okay. lol

                        I like TMagic's post but defense is the biggest issue with Carmelo.
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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #867
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                          So the other people who've posted in this thread don't or are not making any sense because we don't agree with you?

                          Defense has been one of, if not the main issue with Carmelo and that's what the majority of people in here were saying.
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • Dice
                            Sitting by the door
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6627

                            #868
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                            Originally posted by mKoz26
                            Oh okay. lol

                            I like TMagic's post but defense is the biggest issue with Carmelo.
                            And someone has yet to give me conclusive evidence that his defense is a liability. All I hear from people is, "He's a terrible defender" or "His defense is an issue". OK? In what way?

                            Give me something to work on with this. Help me figure this out. I always here about how great a PG Steve Nash is, BUT I rarely hear someone talk about his defense. Which in my opinion, is nothing to write home about. BUT for me, that doesn't exclude him from the conversation of great PG's of today. So why does Melo get crucified for it?
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                            • Dice
                              Sitting by the door
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6627

                              #869
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              So the other people who've posted in this thread don't or are not making any sense because we don't agree with you?

                              Defense has been one of, if not the main issue with Carmelo and that's what the majority of people in here were saying.
                              I just call it the way I see it. If your offended because I didn't hit the "like" button on your comment then that's your problem. I can't help you on that.
                              I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                              • mKoz26
                                In case you forgot...
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4685

                                #870
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                                Originally posted by Dice
                                And someone has yet to give me conclusive evidence that his defense is a liability. All I hear from people is, "He's a terrible defender" or "His defense is an issue". OK? In what way?

                                Give me something to work on with this. Help me figure this out. I always here about how great a PG Steve Nash is, BUT I rarely hear someone talk about his defense. Which in my opinion, is nothing to write home about. BUT for me, that doesn't exclude him from the conversation of great PG's of today. So why does Melo get crucified for it?
                                You REALLY need to start responding to what people are posting rather than talking about what you want their posts to say. Nobody said Melo is terrible because he can't play D.

                                We're saying he's a terrible fit for the Bulls because he can't play D. Especially if they have to give up Noah to get him.
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                                Originally posted by baumy300
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