It's amazing how all these guys from the class of 2003 are losing stock in my eyes -- regarding class. Melo is probably most deserving of on-court criticism than anyone. He's had the most stacked teams of anyone (LeBron, Wade, Bosh), and has nothing more to show for it than some division titles.
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Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga
It's amazing how all these guys from the class of 2003 are losing stock in my eyes -- regarding class. Melo is probably most deserving of on-court criticism than anyone. He's had the most stacked teams of anyone (LeBron, Wade, Bosh), and has nothing more to show for it than some division titles.After more than eight years on here, I finally figured out how to edit my time zone! -
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It's amazing how all these guys from the class of 2003 are losing stock in my eyes -- regarding class. Melo is probably most deserving of on-court criticism than anyone. He's had the most stacked teams of anyone (LeBron, Wade, Bosh), and has nothing more to show for it than some division titles.Comment
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Just listening to the Dan Patrick show and he had C-Webb on there. He asked Webber would he build his team around Paul or Melo. Webber replied, "Melo. I'd tell Anthony, look man I'm going to build this team around you but I'm going to need you to score and play defense. If I can get you to play defense then I can convince the pieces around you to play defense.".
My sentiments exactly.Originally posted by My Wife"The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."Comment
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Bumi, a few questions for ya:
1. How often do you watch the Bulls?
1a. Where did you get the idea that Rose is an inefficient scorer?
1b. How was Michael Jordan an efficient scorer the second he stepped on the court?
1c. What does "efficient" mean? Specifically. In basketball terms.
2. How can a frontcourt with exactly 0 above-average defenders win a title?
3. Why can't a team make history? Who was the first team led to win a title without a star big before Jordan? Who won without a star player before Detroit in '04? etc etcBears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some
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Originally posted by baumy300Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...Comment
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You're completely missing the point. History supports the notion that an elite scorer with serviceable big men and and a good to great second options can win a chip. However; Never, in the modern history of the NBA, has a team won a chip with a PG as their primary means of offense. Never, and it aint happening with the Bulls.
Fact is what you are suggesting the Bulls do has never worked in NBA history. No team has ever won a title lead by a one dimensional player. All Melo brings to the table is points. That is all. He is not a defender, a weak passer when he does decide to pass the ball, and is not a leader. That is not the description of a player who can lead you to a title. To take it a step further no team has ever won an NBA title without good interior defense. It has never happened and never will. If you can't protect the basket you will not win. The Bulls team you are saying we should have have wouldn't be able to protect the basket at all. It doesn't matter how many points you can score if you can't stop anybody else from scoring. History has already proven high scoring teams with no D can't and won't win.Comment
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How many players are better than Melo in the NBA? Some of you guys are talking like he not a franchise changer.Comment
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No one is saying the dude isn't an all star or one of the best scorers in the game. But he is not a franchise changer. He is not the kind of player you blow your team up for to get. Like others have said for all his scoring and what not he has only been out of the first round once in seven years.Comment
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No one is saying the dude isn't an all star or one of the best scorers in the game. But he is not a franchise changer. He is not the kind of player you blow your team up for to get. Like others have said for all his scoring and what not he has only been out of the first round once in seven years.Comment
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Really? You don't think Lebron or Wade on Denver goes to the finals? Hell, if it weren't for a couple of bone-headed plays against the Lakers they really should have made it out the year before last. But the reason they got out of the 1st round was greatly due to Billups coming in and playing defense and holding Melo and the others accountable to playing defense.Originally posted by My Wife"The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."Comment
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Let's not act like his roster has been complete trash now. He has always had at least one other player who has been an all star on his team. He and Iverson was the highest scoring tandem in the league while he was there and they also had an NBA defensive player of the year in Camby. Then after Iverson he has had a finals MVP PG in Billups. Sounds like a pretty good roster to me. You say other guys wouldn't have wom more with that roster I completely disagree. James, Kobe, Wade, and Duncan off the top of my head all would have won more with that roster. James has taken a far weaker team than any of those Nuggets teams to the finals. Duncan has won a championship with a lot less talented roster than Melo has ever had.Comment
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James has taken a far weaker team than any of those Nuggets teams to the finals. Duncan has won a championship with a lot less talented roster than Melo has ever had.<!-- / message -->
2. A lot less though? Ehhh I don't know about "a lot less" talented roster...#RespectTheCultureComment
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2. Yes it was a far less talented team in 03 that won it all. We are talking about a second year Tony Parker, a rookie Manu, a 37 year old and part time David Robinson to go along with Malik Rose and a second year completely unknown Stephen Jackson. That team had zero offensive fire power and Duncan carried them all the way to the title. That isn't anywhere near the talent level of the Melo, Iverson, Camby, and crew Nuggets or last years team for that matter.Last edited by PrettyT11; 10-29-2010, 07:46 PM.Comment
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1. It was impressive. But the way you made it sound(or at least phrased it)you made it seem like 'Oh since Lebron did it with no problem in the East, Carmelo should('ve)done it in the tougher West as well. That's the only reason why I took issue with that.
2. I guess we have different definitions of " a lot less" because when I think of that, I think of J. Kidd had took to the Finals in back to back years. Not THAT would be considered " a lot less" to me at least.#RespectTheCultureComment
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1. It was impressive. But the way you made it sound(or at least phrased it)you made it seem like 'Oh since Lebron did it with no problem in the East, Carmelo should('ve)done it in the tougher West as well. That's the only reason why I took issue with that.
2. I guess we have different definitions of " a lot less" because when I think of that, I think of J. Kidd had took to the Finals in back to back years. Not THAT would be considered " a lot less" to me at least.
2. Oh no doubt Kidd's squad he took to the finals meets the grade as well no question. I was going to add him to the list as well but he isn't the same guy now that he was then. If we was talking about a prime Kidd no doubt. Also cause his teams was in the east as well. Last thing about that Spurs team though. Not saying you are but alot of guys might/do see the names Parker and Manu and see them as the all stars they are now and not the unproven and not nearly as good players that they were then. That team was Timmy, and old and part time Robinson, and a bunch of either old or unknown guys.Comment
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