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  • stlducks
    MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 2885

    #16
    Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

    Originally posted by capp34
    LMAO at them MVP pics...they remind me of how watered down the MVP award was then. How in the hell does Nash and Dirk have more MVPs than Kobe and Shaq.
    Maybe because they do more with less and they both do more than just score. All kobe does is shooting 20-25 times and finishes with 20-25 points a game. Not a good ratio if you ask me.
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    • capp34
      MVP
      • Mar 2007
      • 1313

      #17
      Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

      Originally posted by stlducks
      Maybe because they do more with less and they both do more than just score. All kobe does is shooting 20-25 times and finishes with 20-25 points a game. Not a good ratio if you ask me.
      1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
      1998-99 Karl Malone Utah
      1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago
      1996-97 Karl Malone Utah
      1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago
      1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio
      1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston
      1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix
      1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago
      1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago
      1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
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      1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago
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      1985-86 Larry Bird Boston
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      Like most of these guys who played with other Hall of Famers? Like I said in the MVP thread when did ''more with less'' become the criteria for MVP.
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      • BATMON
        Banned
        • Oct 2010
        • 1445

        #18
        Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

        Originally posted by 23
        Thats an unfair statement to make
        I agree.."............

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        • capp34
          MVP
          • Mar 2007
          • 1313

          #19
          Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

          Originally posted by 23
          Thats an unfair statement to make
          Its always unfair to post something that's not praising Nash on these boards.
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          • Tydis
            Rookie
            • Feb 2009
            • 388

            #20
            Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

            Originally posted by stlducks
            Maybe because they do more with less and they both do more than just score. All kobe does is shooting 20-25 times and finishes with 20-25 points a game. Not a good ratio if you ask me.
            I'm a huge Dirk fanboy and Mav's homer but to be fair Dirk doesn't do much more than score.
            At an amazing rate, with great efficiency, still he really just scores.

            Capp seems to be saying foreign players are the issue.
            Get out of here with that stuff man, rule changes have changed the game.
            Simple as that.

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            • Cutthroat
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 60

              #21
              Today's NBA>>Yesterdays NBA.


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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #22
                Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                Today's NBA>>Yesterdays NBA.

                Yesterday's NBA>>>Today's NBA


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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #23
                  Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                  Originally posted by Tydis
                  rule changes have changed the game.
                  Simple as that.
                  Bascially man...simple as that...

                  This is exactly what Rick Mahorn was just saying on NBA TV...

                  You cant have these "enforcers" of yesteryear with the way the league is called now...

                  I saw alot of people on and off here up in arms about Bynums foul on Beasley last night....which would have pretty much just been a "hard foul" back then...

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                  • jfsolo
                    Live Action, please?
                    • May 2003
                    • 12965

                    #24
                    Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Bascially man...simple as that...

                    This is exactly what Rick Mahorn was just saying on NBA TV...

                    You cant have these "enforcers" of yesteryear with the way the league is called now...

                    I saw alot of people on and off here up in arms about Bynums foul on Beasley last night....which would have pretty much just been a "hard foul" back then...
                    IMO, in any era, that Bynum play is bush league and ejection and suspension is warranted. As a Laker fan I like to see Andrew being aggressive and challenging all comers at the rim, but there is no place for that kind of cheap shot.

                    I grew up on the 80's ball and was an adult by the time the 90's rolled around, but when see replays or clips of a lot of the games back then I am very glad that they outlawed all that cheap play.

                    Real defense is quick feet, anticipation, ball denial, studying tendencies, funneling, quick/early help and sometimes meeting a guy at the rim chest to chest with hard contact being made while you're playing the ball.

                    Shoving or forearming a guy while he's in the air or steering a player with your hand while he's dribbling is not basketball, IMO.
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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52908

                      #25
                      Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                      Originally posted by capp34
                      LMAO at them MVP pics...they remind me of how watered down the MVP award was then. How in the hell does Nash and Dirk have more MVPs than Kobe and Shaq.
                      How may times do we have to run through this discussion?

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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #26
                        Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                        How may times do we have to run through this discussion?
                        Hopefully never again.

                        Nash and Dirk are two fantastic players regardless of what some people have against them.

                        I'd take either one of them on my team in a heartbeat.

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                        • ZB9
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 18387

                          #27
                          Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                          Originally posted by jfsolo

                          Real defense is quick feet, anticipation, ball denial, studying tendencies, funneling, quick/early help and sometimes meeting a guy at the rim chest to chest with hard contact being made while you're playing the ball.

                          Shoving or forearming a guy while he's in the air or steering a player with your hand while he's dribbling is not basketball, IMO.
                          quoted for the truth

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                          • jmood88
                            Sean Payton: Retribution
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 34639

                            #28
                            Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                            Originally posted by Cutthroat
                            Today's NBA>>Yesterdays NBA.


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                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • redcedarrevenge
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 98

                              #29
                              Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                              What exactly was manly about Chris Childs slap fights and Jeff Van Gundy hugging player's ankles?

                              The NBA hasn't had nasty physicality since the Jordan Rules in the late 80's. It's just a symptom of the complete overrating of the 90's New York Knicks because they were considered the rival for the Bulls out of the East, acting like they were just this nasty throwdown team. Watch the Celtics over the last few years and you'll see the same thing, save the fact that they can, you know, win Championships.

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                              • BATMON
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1445

                                #30
                                Re: What ever happened to it being a mans game?

                                Originally posted by redcedarrevenge
                                What exactly was manly about Chris Childs slap fights and Jeff Van Gundy hugging player's ankles?

                                The NBA hasn't had nasty physicality since the Jordan Rules in the late 80's. It's just a symptom of the complete overrating of the 90's New York Knicks because they were considered the rival for the Bulls out of the East, acting like they were just this nasty throwdown team. Watch the Celtics over the last few years and you'll see the same thing, save the fact that they can, you know, win Championships.
                                ONE ring against a then soft Paul Gasol isnt the same Defensive style as the more man to man style as those Knicks teams.

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