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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #916
    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ZB9
    i watched every possession and you didnt watch any....

    it means i cant debate you on this subject
    I wasn't trying to debate...I was actually asking the question because I can't believe that a team that was up by 23 could have it taken away by the refs. For the record, I'd love to see the Mavs win...I've always been a Cuban fan and I like the way Dallas plays. I just have a hard time believing that a team could blow a 23 point lead and it is the officials fault.
    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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    • Bumi
      Banned
      • Sep 2010
      • 967

      #917
      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

      As a Thunder fan, I don't know if I'd rather play San Antonio or Memphis? The Grizzlies look good.

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      • ZB9
        Hall Of Fame
        • Nov 2004
        • 18387

        #918
        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Fiasco West
        There were a few calls
        understatement

        but I didn't think the refs slanted over to any side this game
        contradictory statement is contradictory...see next statement

        Well, they seem to have something against Chandler
        clearly

        the out of bounds could have gone either way
        there was nothing there to overturn that call

        with the way things were going I knew they were going to

        Still Broy exploded at the end and you should be blaming Marion because he blew right past the dude. If Dallas gets a couple of stops the Blazers do not win.
        true

        and if the refs dont do all they can to give Blazers extra possessions, the Blazers do not win

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        • Bumi
          Banned
          • Sep 2010
          • 967

          #919
          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ZB9
          idk know about any **** percentage

          Mavs obviously had a large percentage...but without the zebras slanting things as much as possible to one side, the Blazers do not win.
          I'll give you a percentage.

          50% of it was the Mavs. The other 50% was Brandon Roy.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #920
            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Bumi
            As a Thunder fan, I don't know if I'd rather play San Antonio or Memphis? The Grizzlies look good.
            Yall would have no prob w\ Memphis.....you dont put Matt Bonner in at center

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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #921
              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ZB9
              Mavs had zero total FTs at half time in a physical game....how many times have you seen that in a playoff game

              refs kept it as close as they could throughout the entire game....then helped take the Blazers over the top at the end with the changes of possession with the phantom foul on Chandler, the "charge" on Dirk, the out of bounds overturn, etc.
              They might not have had any free throws but they still had a lead and in the second half the Mavericks took more free throws than the Blazers and had a 23 point lead. The Mavericks choked and that's all there is to it.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • Mrcabone
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2251

                #922
                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Bumi
                As a Thunder fan, I don't know if I'd rather play San Antonio or Memphis? The Grizzlies look good.
                And that's without Rudy Gay.







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                • ZB9
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 18387

                  #923
                  Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Bumi
                  I'll give you a percentage.

                  50% of it was the Mavs. The other 50% was Brandon Roy.
                  ya of course the refs have zero percentage. they were not a factor at all and they didnt slant the game at all

                  now that the attention towards sending Danny Crawford to game two is down, the league is going to slant it towards Portland as much as possible...not to mention that a west coast time slot series is more advantageous to the league in the second round on top of their central time slot series
                  Last edited by ZB9; 04-23-2011, 07:50 PM.

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                  • Bumi
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 967

                    #924
                    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Mrcabone
                    And that's without Rudy Gay.
                    I was just thinking that. I could most definitely see them finishing as a top 4 seed next season.

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                    • Bumi
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 967

                      #925
                      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ZB9
                      ya of course the refs have zero percentage

                      they were not a factor at all and they didnt slant the game at all

                      now that the attention towards sending Danny Crawford to game two is down, the league is going to slant it towards Portland as much as possible...not to mention that a west coast time slot series is more advantageous to the league in the second round on top of their central time slot series
                      There were a few bad calls. The refs most definitely didn't play a major role in the Mavs allowing a 23 point lead to so quickly dissipate, nor were they responsible for Brandon Roy going 8-9 in the 4th. Dirk not getting a shot for the last 7 minutes of the game? Not the refs fault either.

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                      • Fiasco West
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2820

                        #926
                        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ZB9
                        understatement

                        contradictory statement is contradictory...see next statement

                        clearly

                        there was nothing there to overturn that call

                        with the way things were going I knew they were going to

                        true

                        and if the refs dont do all they can to give Blazers extra possessions, the Blazers do not win
                        Sometimes the Refs are horrible with big men. Yao Ming would always get called for ridiculous things. I don't think it's the Refs fixing the game, just that NBA refs are very mediocre if that imo.

                        As for giving the Blazers extra possessions. I don't remember that. Nowitzki had 1 offensive foul that qtr which was correctly called.

                        The Marion foul on Roy's 3 pointer was embellished (which the refs always fall for) and even if you take that 1 FT away the Blazers still win the game.

                        Just look at the play-by-play from 10mins on in the 4th. The refs really only got one call wrong which is the out of bounds play which could have went either way any ways.

                        Also still...if the Mavs get one stop in the final 5 or so mins they win this game. Thats all there is to it. Roy does not miss a single shot from 7 mins on until the very last shot which allowed Terry to chuck up a prayer. Thats bad defense and it is bad offense that Dirk didn't try to quell such a run.
                        Last edited by Fiasco West; 04-23-2011, 07:55 PM.

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                        • LingeringRegime
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 17089

                          #927
                          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                          LOL at Dallas. How do you let that happen?

                          Kidd can't even hit the rim on a wide open three? The '08 Lakers thought that was a meltdown.
                          Last edited by LingeringRegime; 04-23-2011, 08:03 PM.

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                          • ZB9
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 18387

                            #928
                            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by jmood88
                            They might not have had any free throws but they still had a lead and in the second half the Mavericks took more free throws than the Blazers and had a 23 point lead. The Mavericks choked and that's all there is to it.
                            the choke would not have been possible without the officials slanting it as much as possible throughout the game...Dallas getting zero FT attempts in the first half made it obvious that they were trying their best to slant it for Portland

                            but really the only evidence needed is the overturn in the final minute giving Portland possession. The Blazers had to have that and the refs knew it
                            Last edited by ZB9; 04-23-2011, 08:03 PM.

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                            • jmood88
                              Sean Payton: Retribution
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34639

                              #929
                              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ZB9
                              the choke would not have been possible without the officials slanting it as much as possible throughout the game...Dallas getting zero FT attempts in the first half made it obvious that they were trying their best to slant it for Portland

                              but really the only evidence needed is the overturn in the final minute giving Portland possession. The Blazers had to have that and the refs knew it
                              If the refs were really trying to keep the game close for the Blazers, then they would've given them more fouls once the game started getting out of hand. The Blazers and Mavericks both got 6 free throws in the 3rd quarter and the Mavericks had one more free throw than the Blazers in the 4th quarter. Also, the Blazers only had 1 less foul than the Mavericks in the 4th quarter. The officiating is not the reason for the game going the way that it did and if you actually look at the facts, you would see that.
                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52920

                                #930
                                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - First Round Discussion Thread

                                Okay guys, enough of this roundabout ****.

                                There were questionable calls, yes.....but the sole blame is the rest of the team not getting the ball to arguably the best 4th quarter player in the league in said quarter.

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