NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

[da ThRONe]

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Probably should re sign chandler in that big man search

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I would much rather see DeAndre Jordan. Younger, more athletic, and cheaper. Not signing West would give us more room to pick up a DJ and a decent 2guard. I would package any one player not named Paul to get Emeka moved. We do that and stay healthy we will shock a lot of teams next year and I believe we can keep Paul.

[Drewski]

I would much rather see DeAndre Jordan. Younger, more athletic, and cheaper. Not signing West would give us more room to pick up a DJ and a decent 2guard. I would package any one player not named Paul to get Emeka moved. We do that and stay healthy we will shock a lot of teams next year and I believe we can keep Paul.

Deandre would be nice definitely. I don't know though, the 2 is a big hole that a lot of teams will be addressing this off season so it'll be hard without some trade luck. Ariza + okafor for ? Seems to be the package you'd want to send out for a 2 that also relieves the cap. Would probably need to throw in a protected future pick in that to get a reasonable return as well, which seems sketchy to do with the potential of cp ghosting out of there.

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[da ThRONe]

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Deandre would be nice definitely. I don't know though, the 2 is a big hole that a lot of teams will be addressing this off season so it'll be hard without some trade luck. Ariza + okafor for ? Seems to be the package you'd want to send out for a 2 that also relieves the cap. Would probably need to throw in a protected future pick in that to get a reasonable return as well, which seems sketchy to do with the potential of cp ghosting out of there.

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No doubt it's rolling the dice. But CP is the best basketball players the city has had since Pistol Pete(really ever). If your going to gamble the mortgage on any player it's somebody like him. If it fails we would have had to blow up and rebuild anyways.

With West clearly interested in testing the free agency water. We should be proactive. Would love to see some deal with Philly to acquire Iggy for Ariza/Okafor.

[Chrisksaint]

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Either way the Hornets are in a situation where they will have to roll the dice. By either going out now and trying to build a team to win now around CP3 in hopes of him signing and extension, clearing up salary space to possibly make a run at a guy like Dwight to pair up with CP3, or taking the risk and trading him for prospects and such

[Drewski]

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Either way the Hornets are in a situation where they will have to roll the dice. By either going out now and trying to build a team to win now around CP3 in hopes of him signing and extension, clearing up salary space to possibly make a run at a guy like Dwight to pair up with CP3, or taking the risk and trading him for prospects and such

True. Hornets have a very cloudy future, which could turn out very bright... or incredibly rainy. I really dont like their prospects of signing impact FA's though. I think theyd have to go all in with a few packages that clear space, and brings in talent, at the cost of future picks... if they really want to try and get CP3 to stay. But they've failed to give him reason to stay in all these past years... they have 1 year to get it right, or I think Chris Paul can wash his hands clean and chalk it up to him doing what he could but not having much around him.

[Altimus]

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Page updated with latest resignings and trades. Carry on...

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Why did San Antonio trade George Hill

[Drewski]

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Why did San Antonio trade George Hill

To get to the other side?

No, I guess they like Kawhi Leonard, and by like I mean LOVE. Because I thought Hill was one of Pop's guys. I don't blame them in loving Kawhi, he's a guy I think can really impact a game with his hussle and hard nose. I dont know if it was worth dumping Hill though, that remains to be seen. Bit of a gamble, but I think the Spurs get a... well it's the Spurs, they get everything right... card.

[Altimus]

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The question for me is why did the Pacers acquire George Hill? It just seems like it was do a trade for the sake of it. Maybe because of the failed Mayo trade? Who knows. The bottom line is though where does Hill even fit in their need?

Undersized for a two guard and a backup to Collison? Thing is I liked what I saw from A.J Price and thought he is a solid backup. Bird wanted Hill since day 1 and now he has him but not sure he needs him.

[wwharton]

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The question for me is why did the Pacers acquire George Hill? It just seems like it was do a trade for the sake of it. Maybe because of the failed Mayo trade? Who knows. The bottom line is though where does Hill even fit in their need?

Undersized for a two guard and a backup to Collison? Thing is I liked what I saw from A.J Price and thought he is a solid backup. Bird wanted Hill since day 1 and now he has him but not sure he needs him.

I'm interested to see Hill with more PT. He doesn't seem like a true PG, more of a SG who gets thrown at point bc of his size (which, unlike some other shorter guys, does seem to be an issue with him getting significant minutes at the 2). I have a feeling his situation being a backup was the best case scenario but we'll see if he can prove me wrong. But as for SA, I think Leonard fits that team perfectly and there are minutes for him, while Hill's minutes decreates unless there's an injury.

[Gibbz]

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The question for me is why did the Pacers acquire George Hill? It just seems like it was do a trade for the sake of it. Maybe because of the failed Mayo trade? Who knows. The bottom line is though where does Hill even fit in their need?

Undersized for a two guard and a backup to Collison? Thing is I liked what I saw from A.J Price and thought he is a solid backup. Bird wanted Hill since day 1 and now he has him but not sure he needs him.

Hill is a hometown boy and will be a huge fan favorite in Indiana. I could see him being a big-number guy on a bad team. He averaged about 16 points and 4 assists in his time starting for the Spurs.

I'm a fan of his and will definitely be pulling for him to do work in Indiana.

[wwharton]

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Hill is a hometown boy and will be a huge fan favorite in Indiana. I could see him being a big-number guy on a bad team. He averaged about 16 points and 4 assists in his time starting for the Spurs.

I'm a fan of his and will definitely be pulling for him to do work in Indiana.

Sounds like you know a bit about him. Do you see him as a true PG? I just don't see him getting many more assists per game than the 4. He won't have to as a back up but I don't see him being a good SG option either so I don't know.

[Drewski]

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Sounds like you know a bit about him. Do you see him as a true PG? I just don't see him getting many more assists per game than the 4. He won't have to as a back up but I don't see him being a good SG option either so I don't know.

Chiming in though I can't say I'm a George Hill wikipedia.

I think you're assumption on him is right. Seems like a back up type who can get 10+ a game, and on a good run out get about 4 assists. And as you stated, off the bench, that's about all you need.

At the 2 I think the Pacers can use him situationally. There are a good number of undersized 2's/Combo guards who play the position so he can definitely pick up some of those guys throughout the season. I think the Spurs are kind of crazy letting George Hill go for that reason, but I also think Kawhi Leonard will be an extremely valuable asset to have.

Pacers get some flexibility around the backup 1/2, George Hill is a pretty solid piece in general, and he has some hometown love so he'll quickly be a fan favorite so long as he produces even in a minimal amount. A little surprised the Pacers couldn't target a draft pick that high, I'd have to pull out the draft picks...

Kenneth Farried, Jordan Hamilton, Reggie Jackson, Marshon Brooks - Just at first glance.

And they lost their 2nd rounder, which turned into Bertans, which I think is an interesting prospect. Leave him over seas while he continues to grow and bring him over in a few years. The only thing I can think is

A) They wanted to bring someone for fanfare (Hill)
B) They wanted a backup PG and didn't feel any of those rookies could be serviceable.

B isn't crazy. I like(d) the prospect of Reggie Jackson but he was such a huge ? mark because he denied workouts in hopes of falling to the Heat (who then took Norris Cole instead). I don't feel like they got the best backup PG available to them, but it's not a complete slip by the Pacers. Kawhi and Farried probably both had more value, same with Hamilton, but if they feel the 1/2 backup is a slot they want to solidify they made a passable move.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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From everything I've heard about Bertans, that was an absolute steal by the Spurs (surprisingly...)

[ex carrabba fan]

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Hill is a hometown boy and will be a huge fan favorite in Indiana. I could see him being a big-number guy on a bad team. He averaged about 16 points and 4 assists in his time starting for the Spurs.

I'm a fan of his and will definitely be pulling for him to do work in Indiana.

The hometown angle is probably what explains this most.

To me it really didn't make sense for either team. Unless SA has a target backup PG in mind or if they're gonna bring back Neal to run the backup permanently. They're still in win now mode, but it almost seems like Pops is trying to rebuild and win now all with one stone. I'm not so sure it makes sense because Hill is a Spurs type player though and through.

Pacers needed another steady player in the rotation because Rush and Jones aren't consistent enough. Problem is Hill and Price are now redundant, I'm guessing Price might be done in Indy though he played well at times for them.