Highlight Reeling

[SteelersFreak]

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Melo is the best one-on-one scorer in the league, hands down.

[JasonWilliams55]

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I'm not sure I agree. It appears to be a routine reverse pivot/drop step/spin/whatever-you-want-to-call-it, only he does it after one single dribble, as opposed to off the run like many other players do. I just watched him pull off the same move in Olympic play. The spin is still a part of the gather then the setting of the two feet is, well, the setting of the two feet.

Sorry, he moves his pivot foot (left) before the ball hits the ground. Resulting in a travel. Most NBA players do this as the refs let it slide. But its still a travel according to the rules.

Watched again a few more times, he indeed travels off the pivot. Also in the process of the spin move, he moves his spin pivot foot as well.

You can see it from the 2nd angle very clearly.

[VDusen04]

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Sorry, he moves his pivot foot (left) before the ball hits the ground. Resulting in a travel. Most NBA players do this as the refs let it slide. But its still a travel according to the rules.

Watched again a few more times, he indeed travels off the pivot. Also in the process of the spin move, he moves his spin pivot foot as well.

You can see it from the 2nd angle very clearly.

Yep, I may be with you. I still like the idea of the move though. If he pulled it off in what I feel to be normal fashion (without his left foot lifting and sputtering randomly) I think it'd be a solid maneuver. To be real, it occurs so quickly it appears as if that little lifting of the foot isn't even there. Sometimes, I don't think it's just a matter of NBA officials letting things slide. Instead, I believe there's a lot of very small movements that may technically be illegal that are just too minuscule or quick to recognize and pick up, for as I mentioned, Anthony executed this move today in Olympic play with no violation being whistled. Perhaps he was able to keep that foot properly grounded in today's occasion.

[JasonWilliams55]

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Yep, I may be with you. I still like the idea of the move though. If he pulled it off in what I feel to be normal fashion (without his left foot lifting and sputtering randomly) I think it'd be a solid maneuver. To be real, it occurs so quickly it appears as if that little lifting of the foot isn't even there. Sometimes, I don't think it's just a matter of NBA officials letting things slide. Instead, I believe there's a lot of very small movements that may technically be illegal that are just too minuscule or quick to recognize and pick up, for as I mentioned, Anthony executed this move today in Olympic play with no violation being whistled. Perhaps he was able to keep that foot properly grounded in today's occasion.

Agreed. But, if he doesn't travel, does he still get the move to work?

Here is why this is a big deal and why refs need to start calling it.

First, upon the ball being thrown, Melo has his left foot towards LeBron which is giving him needed seperation as LeBron will not be able to go through his foot-body without a foul. Advantage offense. His pivot is established, he claimed that spot, the defense cannot do much.

Second, he catches and turns towards LeBron. Keeping his left foot pivoted. As a defender he (LBJ) should realize this and play Melo to his right, as that is where his pivot "should" take him. Barring a spin off the pivot to his (Melo's) left, baseline side. But that would be a slow move to go against LeBron and Melo already faced up.

With that faceup, Melo has many options (I will talk about two), cross pivot go (right foot crosses, leaving the left pivot behind, and going with a strong push off the pivot, this move keeps Melos back to LeBron as Melos chest would be facing baseline), cross pivot spin (which is what he really did, spun off the right foot) but with him being able to travel first gives him that back foot initial push which gives him a needed burst to get LBJ to jump back into a defensive position for a drive (instead of the cross pivot with his right foot and initially spinning off of it, which would have been a 'slower' move).

That is why this ish needs to be called. But its the NBA, they've 'earned' the right to get passed this ticky tack BS.

[DieHardYankee26]

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They don't call it because the movements are so small, and the NBA would be unbearable to watch if they called every travel. The games would be 5 hours long with all the whistles blown.

[JasonWilliams55]

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They don't call it because the movements are so small, and the NBA would be unbearable to watch if they called every travel. The games would be 5 hours long with all the whistles blown.

Agreed, but its still a travel which gave an advantage. Why not just let players take 4-5 steps. Or just get rid of the rule if they aren't going to call it.

I'm not for one to call traveling when someone switches or moves their pivot a little bit. Only when it gives a clear advantage during an offensive move.

[youvalss]

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I think refs don't call travelling as they should because, in this day and age, the NBA allows ANYTHING that would increase the score and let the stars shine. No matter how big of a change it means, the NBA will make it.

[JasonWilliams55]

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The biggest reason they should either call it or not call it consistently is this; it allows the ref to determine whether the call is made or not, meaning that the ref holds the power in the game, not the players.

For example; you can look it up; Donahue came out and said that the refs had a little thing against Allen Iverson. Hence more calls against him. Obviously that is cheating.

Now when the refs have the power to call a travel on one person and not the other, it is cheating. That's why rules are rules and refs are out there to uphold the rules.

[JasonWilliams55]

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They don't call it because the movements are so small, and the NBA would be unbearable to watch if they called every travel. The games would be 5 hours long with all the whistles blown.

So the players wouldn't adjust? They've made it from little league to high school to college following the 'same' rules but with those rules actually being called.

Also if there was that many travels to make the game last 5 hours, you have some pretty terrible players out there, if they can't even play the game.

[aloncho11]

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Volumes 1 and 2

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[youvalss]

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Nov 2, 1990: Warriors-Nuggets, Casual settings:


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[aloncho11]

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^The system in action!

[VDusen04]

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[youvalss]

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[VDusen04]

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First off, I'm undoubtedly a Pistons fan, so bias is there. With that said, one of my favorite things about the Larry Brown teams was watching an NBA club, in a championship round, successfully utilize a full court trap.

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A tie game turns into a 7 point deficit in under a minute (if not for a random missed layup, it could have been 9). Side props go to Bob Horry for two near great defensive plays himself. A battle that year, wasn't it?