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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #2626
    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion



    Just asked someone with knowledge of NBA labor negotiations if sides were almost home on a deal. Response: "Very close"
    Michael Lee.

    Please be true.
    Too Old To Game Club

    Urban Meyer is lol.

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    • TN3LL
      Banned
      • Sep 2011
      • 414

      #2627
      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

      MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
      Just asked someone with knowledge of NBA labor negotiations if sides were almost home on a deal. Response: "Very close"

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      • TN3LL
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 414

        #2628
        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

        you beat me to it lol

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        • OSUFan_88
          Outback Jesus
          • Jul 2004
          • 25642

          #2629
          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

          Originally posted by TN3LL
          you beat me to it lol
          don't worry bro, no shame in that.

          I am on top of this. If a major NBA source tweets something, I'm probably going to post it within the minute they post it.
          Too Old To Game Club

          Urban Meyer is lol.

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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52901

            #2630
            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

            Who the hell is Michael Lee?

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            • TN3LL
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 414

              #2631
              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

              Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
              Source reiterates that labor Meeting is going very well...

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              • OSUFan_88
                Outback Jesus
                • Jul 2004
                • 25642

                #2632
                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                Who the hell is Michael Lee?
                Washington Post Wizards writer.
                Too Old To Game Club

                Urban Meyer is lol.

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                • DukeC
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 5751

                  #2633
                  Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                  Don't let me down Lee! I need my ROOKIES!!!!

                  Oh...I want the NBA back too >.>

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                  • da ThRONe
                    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8528

                    #2634
                    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                    Originally posted by Court_vision
                    Excellent article at www.grantland.com basically detailing why the players CANNOT win.




                    .
                    </ASIDE>Does anyone really believe that Paul Allen, worth $13.2 billion, is holding up this deal for a few million dollars out of his pocket?<SUP id=reffoot3>3</SUP> Of course not. The reality is that there is not, nor will there ever be, parity in the NBA. You need an elite superstar to win a championship, and there are maybe 10 of those in the NBA. Parity is simply being used to hide their true intent.
                    The owners aren't holding out for parity. They are holding out because of indifference and vindictiveness. Financially, they have so much money and so many alternate sources of revenue that it doesn't matter if their teams play or not. And since most owners' teams aren't going to win anyway, the motivation just isn't there to cave. For certain owners, like Dan Gilbert, this is taken to an extreme. The man who penned the Comic Sans diatribe against LeBron James would love nothing more than to slice a year off James' championship window in Miami.
                    So, the players must cave, right? They need paychecks and the owners appear indifferent. The short answer is yes. Economically speaking, they should cave immediately. They are going to lose more money from missing games than they will lose from taking a worse deal. And the players will eventually cave. There will be basketball again. But it's the system that causes reluctance. Sure enough, it's being reported that the owners are not offering 50 percent with a system the players covet, but are instead offering a choice: (1) a 50 percent split with a restrictive system, OR (2) a 47 percent split with a non-restrictive system. So, the players are in a situation where they have already lost, already given so much, and already covered the owners' losses (some of which are unrelated to players' salaries), and they now must choose between keeping more raw money or protecting that middle class of players. Not nearly as simple as dividing a $4 billion pie.
                    The one thing I disagree with is the idea that you need a superstar to win. I think the system is such that certain teams can have up to 2 superstar and still surround them with quality starters and role players. If we had a cap system with a number that could not be exceed talent then would naturely even out.

                    Example if the league a had a cap limit of 60mil. Lets look at the NYK. they have two superstars who together total 36 million. Which would leave them 24 million to fill out the rest of their roster. Which would mean that they wouldn't have the cap space to surround their two superstars with quality starters and role players. Sure you could go to the NYK, but you would be looking at making around a third (if not less) of your market value. So teams like Denver may never get another superstar they would be able to give 3 or 4 star players market value and acquire solid pieces to field a competitive team. Small/mid rev teams would look more like the the championship Pistons teams with Billups/Prince/Hamilton/Wallace's. Thus creating more parity and a better on court product. It's easy for a league to look short on talent when most of the elite/refined talents are all on the same few teams.
                    You looking at the Chair MAN!

                    Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                    • TN3LL
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 414

                      #2635
                      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                      im trying not to get my hopes up again......

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                      • cmebfresh
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 930

                        #2636
                        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                        My hopes is at mid-level. I hate to be negative but i don't believe none of the source until ESPN have it on breaking news
                        "Sometimes i sit and piss myself" - Quote Cmebfresh

                        MIAMI ALL THE WAY

                        MIAMI HEAT
                        MIAMI DOLPHINS
                        MIAMI MARLINS
                        AND THE U

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                        • TN3LL
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 414

                          #2637
                          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                          NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
                          Tweet about sides being "very close'' is "premature,'' according to source who would know. But this marathon frankly is a surprise.

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                          • Taur3asi3
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3727

                            #2638
                            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                            Theres way too many sources and far too many of those too many sources are worthless.
                            As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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                            • OSUFan_88
                              Outback Jesus
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 25642

                              #2639
                              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                              Meeting over, no deal.
                              Too Old To Game Club

                              Urban Meyer is lol.

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                              • TN3LL
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 414

                                #2640
                                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                                KBergCBS Ken Berger
                                NBA talks are over for the night. "No deal," a source says

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