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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #4621
    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

    Example of how Amnesty would work:

    MIAMI—
    An expected windfall for NBA contending teams in search of affordable talent could wind up short-circuited by the league's soon-to-be-approved collective-bargaining agreement.

    The Sun Sentinel confirmed Sunday that instead of players being released under the league's "amnesty" provision going directly to the open market, a bidding system has been put in place for teams operating below the league's salary cap to add such players at a deep discount.

    "That's what the clause is in there for," a party familiar with the impending process Sunday told the Sun Sentinel. "It's so the Lakers can't go in and scoop up all the players."

    Under the amnesty program, a team can waive a player in order to remove his salary from its salary cap and luxury tax, while still paying out the balance of that contract. It had been widely assumed that such players then would immediately hit the open market
    That could have positioned the Miami Heat to add players such as Baron Davis, Rashard Lewis, Brendan Haywood or Brandon Roy at the NBA salary minimum, with the players' previous teams still paying their full salaries. (Team-by-team decisions on specific players, if any, to receive amnesty releases will not be announced until after the CBA is ratified.)

    However, in an outline of the proposed collective-bargaining agreement obtained by the Sun Sentinel, the NBA instead has instituted "a modified waiver process" that would allow teams operating below the salary cap to "submit competing offers to assume some but not all of the player's remaining contract."

    For example, while Lewis has two years at $44 million total remaining on his contract, a team currently operating below the salary cap could bid to pay Lewis $3 million in each of those years (with the Washington Wizards, who are expected to make Lewis available, then paying the balance of his salary).

    "Some of it is still not 100-percent worked out," a party familiar with the impending policy told the Sun Sentinel.

    Under the about-to-be-rubber-stamped program, teams such as the Heat and Lakers that are operating well above the salary cap would therefore be precluded from bidding on such players, able to move only on amnesty players who receive no partial bids in the waiver process. For the Heat, it would be a blow in the bid to add depth around LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

    For teams currently operating well below the cap, such as the Denver Nuggets, Sacramento Kings, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, New Jersey Nets, Washington Wizards and New Orleans Hornets, it could provide a pennies-on-the-dollar windfall.

    "This just makes it more attractive or appealing for a team to pick up a contract on waivers, because they're obviously not paying the whole thing, they're only going to be paying the part that they bid on," another party involved in finalizing the process told the Sun Sentinel.

    "The notion has been, unlike last time (after the 1998-99 lockout), where you have a Michael Finley, who picks the team of his choice, collects his money, and goes to the team of his choice for a million dollars, that there's going to be a secondary-bidding process. It's going to be no different than being traded."

    Because of the revised process, players who had expected an amnesty release to lead to the ability to sign with the team of their choice -- with Heat forward Mike Miller possibly to be included in such a group -- could instead find themselves forced to join small-market, small-payroll teams who have ample available salary-cap space.

    Beyond Davis, Lewis, Haywood and Roy, other players linked to potential amnesty-rule releases are Orlando Magic guard Gilbert Arenas, Detroit Pistons forward Charlie Villanueva, Lakers forward Luke Walton, Phoenix Suns forward Josh Childress, Philadelphia 76ers forward Andres Nocioni, New Jersey Nets forward Travis Outlaw, San Antonio Spurs forward Richard Jefferson and Utah Jazz center Mehmet Okur.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • Drewski
      Basketball Reasons
      • Jun 2011
      • 3783

      #4622
      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

      There's been so much content to read since the CBA dropped, especially with the sparse details of the amnesty. Always appreciate more information, tons to catch up on just as a fan. Rashard Lewis being used as an example is a great way to make the amnesty-scenario kind of... click.
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      • VanCitySportsGuy
        NYG_Meth
        • Feb 2003
        • 9351

        #4623
        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

        If the Clippers are good this season, scheduling playoff games at Staples Center is going to be a nightmare.

        You could have 3 teams in the playoffs at the sametime plus concerts and other events.

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        • a_maz_ing
          Banned
          • Sep 2011
          • 639

          #4624
          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

          I wish the owners would have just let them play less games, I don't like them feeling the need to cram extra games in the season...I already think the season is too long as it is.

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #4625
            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

            Originally posted by a_maz_ing
            I wish the owners would have just let them play less games, I don't like them feeling the need to cram extra games in the season...I already think the season is too long as it is.
            Less games equal less revenue for players and owners. Less games means that equal missing chances to see every team. Im a season ticket holder and would be pissed if I wasn't able to see every nba team play.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #4626
              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

              Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
              If the Clippers are good this season, scheduling playoff games at Staples Center is going to be a nightmare.

              You could have 3 teams in the playoffs at the sametime plus concerts and other events.
              ummm...so whats the third team that plays at Staples?

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #4627
                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                Originally posted by 23
                ummm...so whats the third team that plays at Staples?
                Hockey...the Kings.

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                • Drewski
                  Basketball Reasons
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3783

                  #4628
                  Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  Hockey...the Kings.
                  Hockey is still going during the NBA playoffs? (Legitimate question, I had the same question 23 had when I read that)
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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #4629
                    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                    Originally posted by Drewski
                    Hockey is still going during the NBA playoffs? (Legitimate question, I had the same question 23 had when I read that)
                    Yeah the schedules and amount of games are about the same

                    thx for the reminder aaron

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                    • OSUFan_88
                      Outback Jesus
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 25642

                      #4630
                      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                      Originally posted by Drewski
                      Hockey is still going during the NBA playoffs? (Legitimate question, I had the same question 23 had when I read that)
                      Pretty sure it would be the playoffs. In which case, the Kings are probably going to be playing.
                      Too Old To Game Club

                      Urban Meyer is lol.

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #4631
                        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                        So when can we actually buy tickets for games? I hope we don't gotta wait til the 9th like the players and owners have to because we didn't do **** to deserve this.
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #4632
                          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          So when can we actually buy tickets for games? I hope we don't gotta wait til the 9th like the players and owners have to because we didn't do **** to deserve this.
                          When the schedule is announced and the CBA is ratified.

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                          • da ThRONe
                            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8528

                            #4633
                            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                            Originally posted by a_maz_ing
                            I wish the owners would have just let them play less games, I don't like them feeling the need to cram extra games in the season...I already think the season is too long as it is.
                            I agree. I think the league is too short sighted to see the long term finanical benefit to reducing the season. If they would cut games and make the regular season as must see as the playoffs the revenue they would make having those extra games would pale in comparison to what they could make in shorten season.

                            But like aholbert pointed out all they can see is the carrot in front of their faces and end up walking past an entire field of carrots.
                            You looking at the Chair MAN!

                            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                            • Jasong7777
                              All Star
                              • May 2005
                              • 6415

                              #4634
                              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                              Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                              If the Clippers are good this season, scheduling playoff games at Staples Center is going to be a nightmare.

                              You could have 3 teams in the playoffs at the sametime plus concerts and other events.
                              The Clippers won't be making the playoffs, so that scenario you don't have to worry about.
                              Redskins, Lakers, Orioles, UNC Basketball , and ND Football
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                              • Jasong7777
                                All Star
                                • May 2005
                                • 6415

                                #4635
                                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                                NBA schedule plan has 48 conference games



                                The NBA regular season would run through April 26 and require teams to play at least one set of back-to-back-to-back games if a new labor deal is ratified in time to start on Christmas.
                                The league posted an outline of what the schedule would look like on its Twitter pages Sunday. The plan is a 66-game regular season, ending about 10 days later than usual. The last possible day of the NBA finals would be June 26, two weeks later than the championship series ended last season.
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                                NBA's key dates under tentative deal

                                According to commissioner David Stern, the NBA has a tentative plan to start a 66-game schedule on Christmas Day:
                                Dec. 9: Training camps open
                                Dec. 9: Free agency begins
                                Dec. 25: Regular season begins


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                                Teams would play 48 games within their conference and 18 nonconference games. Teams will not visit every NBA city.
                                Teams will play about two more games per month, but no team would play on three straight nights more than three times.
                                Back-to-backs might also be played during the second round of the postseason.
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