Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

[jordan0386]

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I don't really buy into age....I mean Kwame Brown came straight out of high school, Tim Duncan came into the league older, does that mean Kwame has more potential than Duncan, I doubt it. Talent is talent, I don't believe Parker will get much better than what he already is. Tim Duncan's presence is a big help.

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im not saying he's gonna get better just cause he 20...he has more time to develop his game more...he looks like a guy who can avg 15 and 5 for a career...

STOP SAYING KWAME BROWN

that name got jordan fired...JORDAN

bad luck...bad luck...ba..

[Admiral50]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

[Admiral50]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

[Admiral50]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

[jordan0386]

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Well I am not talking about those choices of players necessarily being 'better' players but either more suited or with more potential.

Ginobili played no minutes last year and has heaps of potential to go with what he has already shown of being a good passer, handy scorer and surprisingly good defender (especially his steal numbers).
Parker, well he is going to keep getting better and better, especially with experience. Sure some of those guys' numbers look better now, but I never said my choices were better players or had better stats.
Sprewell is old and not as consistent scoring-wise as I'd like to see. I've always thought he'd be good in the Spurs but not now and certainly not at the expense of Ginobili.
Francis, well I may be wrong and jumped the gun with Steve Nash but I've always felt Francis to be a stat man and not a win man. I think he is over-rated to the point where he wouldn't do half as much in a top team.

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stat man...thats classic...you should add paycheck man...cause when he gets that check every other thursday...he seems more eager to throw a roll of money at mitchell and ness...than pick and roll with YAO

[jordan0386]

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Admiral50 said:
Well I am not talking about those choices of players necessarily being 'better' players but either more suited or with more potential.

Ginobili played no minutes last year and has heaps of potential to go with what he has already shown of being a good passer, handy scorer and surprisingly good defender (especially his steal numbers).
Parker, well he is going to keep getting better and better, especially with experience. Sure some of those guys' numbers look better now, but I never said my choices were better players or had better stats.
Sprewell is old and not as consistent scoring-wise as I'd like to see. I've always thought he'd be good in the Spurs but not now and certainly not at the expense of Ginobili.
Francis, well I may be wrong and jumped the gun with Steve Nash but I've always felt Francis to be a stat man and not a win man. I think he is over-rated to the point where he wouldn't do half as much in a top team.

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stat man...thats classic...you should add paycheck man...cause when he gets that check every other thursday...he seems more eager to throw a roll of money at mitchell and ness...than pick and roll with YAO

[jordan0386]

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Admiral50 said:
Well I am not talking about those choices of players necessarily being 'better' players but either more suited or with more potential.

Ginobili played no minutes last year and has heaps of potential to go with what he has already shown of being a good passer, handy scorer and surprisingly good defender (especially his steal numbers).
Parker, well he is going to keep getting better and better, especially with experience. Sure some of those guys' numbers look better now, but I never said my choices were better players or had better stats.
Sprewell is old and not as consistent scoring-wise as I'd like to see. I've always thought he'd be good in the Spurs but not now and certainly not at the expense of Ginobili.
Francis, well I may be wrong and jumped the gun with Steve Nash but I've always felt Francis to be a stat man and not a win man. I think he is over-rated to the point where he wouldn't do half as much in a top team.

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stat man...thats classic...you should add paycheck man...cause when he gets that check every other thursday...he seems more eager to throw a roll of money at mitchell and ness...than pick and roll with YAO

[jordan0386]

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Admiral50 said:
Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

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[jordan0386]

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Admiral50 said:
Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

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[jordan0386]

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Admiral50 said:
Well he was a bit more than 15 and 5 already last year. I see him as being an 18-20pt guy with 6 assists or so, being much smarter and more consistent.

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[ATrillionaire]

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I agree that Francis is overrated, though I also believe that Parker is nowhere near his caliber. Not one GM would take Parker over Francis. Let's see, both can't shoot, but Francis would probably pick up more assist and definitely rebound more. He's also a better defensive presence. There is really nothing more for a PG to do in SA since the offense runs through Duncan. So I go with the more talented guy.

Also, I think Ginobili has all the talent in the world and will one day be a great player.....SA better not lose him, but he's not their yet, and he's not a big money player, so if I have Sprewell, I play him much more the Ginobili.

[ATrillionaire]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

I agree that Francis is overrated, though I also believe that Parker is nowhere near his caliber. Not one GM would take Parker over Francis. Let's see, both can't shoot, but Francis would probably pick up more assist and definitely rebound more. He's also a better defensive presence. There is really nothing more for a PG to do in SA since the offense runs through Duncan. So I go with the more talented guy.

Also, I think Ginobili has all the talent in the world and will one day be a great player.....SA better not lose him, but he's not their yet, and he's not a big money player, so if I have Sprewell, I play him much more the Ginobili.

[ATrillionaire]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

I agree that Francis is overrated, though I also believe that Parker is nowhere near his caliber. Not one GM would take Parker over Francis. Let's see, both can't shoot, but Francis would probably pick up more assist and definitely rebound more. He's also a better defensive presence. There is really nothing more for a PG to do in SA since the offense runs through Duncan. So I go with the more talented guy.

Also, I think Ginobili has all the talent in the world and will one day be a great player.....SA better not lose him, but he's not their yet, and he's not a big money player, so if I have Sprewell, I play him much more the Ginobili.

[Admiral50]

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Both can't shoot? You judging on fg%? Parker already has the ability to hit jumpers and three's (not great yet but noticeably better than what Francis can), and I can see him becoming a very good shooting point guard.

And I don't think a rebounding guard (Francis) in a nothing team would do as much in a team with Duncan (Rose and Nesterovic).

And yeah the offense does run through Duncan but coach Pop says they are better (and I agree) when Parker is looking for and hitting his shot. I know I am biased but there is something about Parker for me, he looks to have the extra edge needed to become more than a helper for Duncan. Not exactly the same, but similar to how Kobe can light up in a team with Shaq.

Oh and just a little note, my prediction, if Ginobili plays decent minutes he will be in the top steals leaders this year Hopefully in the 3pt % too, but that might be dreaming a bit much...

[Admiral50]

Re: Not a matter of IF, but WHEN the Spurs repeat!

Both can't shoot? You judging on fg%? Parker already has the ability to hit jumpers and three's (not great yet but noticeably better than what Francis can), and I can see him becoming a very good shooting point guard.

And I don't think a rebounding guard (Francis) in a nothing team would do as much in a team with Duncan (Rose and Nesterovic).

And yeah the offense does run through Duncan but coach Pop says they are better (and I agree) when Parker is looking for and hitting his shot. I know I am biased but there is something about Parker for me, he looks to have the extra edge needed to become more than a helper for Duncan. Not exactly the same, but similar to how Kobe can light up in a team with Shaq.

Oh and just a little note, my prediction, if Ginobili plays decent minutes he will be in the top steals leaders this year Hopefully in the 3pt % too, but that might be dreaming a bit much...