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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
I figured as much. Well these guys can fit in nicely to a team with big guys like Andrew/Pau. I mean, they literally just need to stand in one spot and shoot set shots. Let's hope they can make some and at least stand in front of people on defense.
Deng has an awful contract, worse than Boozer's for what you're getting IMO. Noah impressed the hell out of me the past two years, I would personally take Noah/Boozer/picks over Bynum/Odom because of age and defense. I'd much rather have Boozer's offense mixed with Noah's defense/rebounding/consistency over Bynum/Odom's inconsistency, injury problems and age.Comment
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Lost in the shuffle is this.
Lakers can offer Bynum Odom for Howard. Magic can attach Arenas and the Lakers won't blink, hell, he's arguably a better pg than anything we have in all likelihood. You think the Magic would hang onto Odom? Doubtful. You don't think a dozen "contending" teams won't be calling on Odom? They can find a better suitor and flip Odom into something more fitting. Bynum, in my opinion, is far ahead of Brook Lopez in potential and current talents.
Bulls front office making a big trade, tearing apart the best defense along with a budding Derrick Rose? Forgive me but I don't see the Bulls front office as the type to tear apart something like what they have in order to continue. Get a shooting guard, their formula for success is already strong.
Nets offer isn't too bad. Two picks and Brook? Not bad. Maybe Magic can throw a pick back at them and push for Marshon Brooks?
If Dwight says I will only extend for LA, this all becomes moot. Though if I'm the Nets I'm more than willing to gamble than not considering they're already on a clock with Deron Williams.
Feel like Lakers have the best offer far and away unless Dwight says he will extend elsewhere. Then things might get dicey.
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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
The thing with Bynum is it's like trading Dwight for Greg Oden. Bynum has not shown at any point that he CAN stay healthy. So saying barring injuries is a big hope here. I get what you're saying with Lopez though, there are questions there. However I'd rather have him and the draft pick(s) that'll come with him as they'll probably be better than any Lakers pick whether they're lottery picks or not.
As for the Bulls offer. I think it's a much better deal because I'm biased yes lol. Also realistically you're either getting two young players in Deng and Noah or a solid frontcourt in Noah and Boozer to replace what you're going to lose in Howard and the Bulls will take Hedo off their hands if Orlando wants to try to push him off on them. Noah's been hurt the last two years, but I only chalk one of them up for the 'injury prone' label. The foot thing, okay, chalk that up. Last year a guy swung for the ball and whacked him on the hand and tore a ligament in his thumb. **** like that happens. That's like someone throwing a brick through your window and giving you a concussion when it hits you on the head and then everyone starts running around talking about you not being able to stay healthy. Not really your fault if you get hurt like that. The majority of Bynum's injuries if not all of them are things like..***nning, or jumping up and down or something like that.
Also if you take Odom out of LA who knows what this guy is going to be like as he's firmly entrenched in the idea of being a celebrity out there now that he's a full fledged Kardashian. The Bulls package and the Nets packages have question marks, but not half as many as the Lakers package.
The Bulls are committed to winning my man. Whatever they have to do to win, they're going to do it. Dwight Howard is a legit, bonafied, can't miss player. Not a fake can't miss player like Carmelo. If they have a chance to get Dwight by trading anybody but Rose, they'll take it.Comment
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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
Jared Jeffries has informed the Knicks that he intends to re-sign with the club. Deal expected to be for one year.
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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
Howard/Arenas for Bynum/Odom/Artest works.
No one is saying that Odom is a superstar but he is a guy who arguably had an All Star year, hasnt missed a game in 2 seasons and has been the third best player on a two time championship team. He's a decent asset for any team.Comment
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Thanks, I'm at work and couldn't pull all of the salaries. I'd argue Orlando could easily flip Artest on the 3rd year of his mle contract + Odom could get the Magic a really good piece to build around Bynum. While also dumping a huge salary issue of Arenas while saving. Get their Amnesty. Have to consider the Magic will be in rebuild mode and have a high value in dumping Arenas. You can't even begin to tell me Lakers say no to this trade because of adding the Artest Arenas wrinkle.
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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
That's trash.
What is that- Let's Make an Amnesty Deal?
And Odom...dude...he's not an asset. He's on the last year of the biggest payday he's ever gonna get.
You guys are making the Nets deal look better and better.Comment
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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)
You have to do better than this. Why isnt he an asset? Explain yourself instead of just making blanket statements. I'll go first: He's only 32. He was arguably an allstar last year. He doesnt miss games. He can give you 13/8/3 every single night. How isnt that guy an asset.
The Nets deal is for a center who stat padded on a loser team (Bynum could average 20 if you gave him the same number of touches on the Nets) and is one of the worst rebounding centers in the league. With that said, I like Lopez but I dont know how you can argue that Lopez plus two 1st round picks (likely not going to be lottery picks) is a much better offer than Bynum/Artest /Odom and a pick. Also Orlando gets to get rid of Gilbert w/o amnesty AND potentially use amnesty on Turk.
I'm not saying that the Laker deal is perfect but its a good offer. The Chicago deal may be better. Now please explain why Odom isnt an asset.Comment
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How is that worse?
The Magic keep their amnesty, clear out Arenas, and have three pieces that can start for them out of the gates (centered around Bynum).
If they don't want them, I can guarantee they can flip Odom and Artest into pieces that are more suited for them to build upwards. If not, that team could likely still hit the playoffs out East. Let's not forget they have Jameer still, and they'll want to find a way to trade Hedos contract away. This gives them more flexibility to start reforming the roster
Odom is definitely an asset. His contract is a bit higher than it should be but it's not unreasonable, he's coming off one of the better seasons of his career, and he's extremely versatile. He might not be what the Magic want in an asset, but he can be an asset to someone see and a versatile big can be traded easily, I'd venture.
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