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  • PhantomPain
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 3512

    #871
    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by HighRiser32
    Anthony Davis as 1 ok I'm a UK fan he has great shot blocking Potential. He has no post game, but he's got to turn out better than Greg Oden for anyone. Love the kid but damn on the offensive side of the ball, they had him pull high every play and clear out for UK, hopefully he has some trick up his sleeve. Supposedly he can handle like a guard I hope so. Marcus Camby type I'm seeing not too bad though for a #1
    Are you a UK fan that didn't watch a lot of games? If you did, you would have seen that as the season went on he became more comfortable stepping outside and shooting or driving. He needs to get stronger and has to work some more on facing up and driving, but it was clear he has the tools...just needs the practice. As for his post up moves, the only one he has is not a bad one to have. He can go right or left on a baby hook that was near automatic when he used it...either hand, out to about 8 feet.

    Davis will be fine. He will have a chance to live, eat and breath basketball and do nothing but get better each and every game he is in the NBA. The sky is the limit for him.
    Last edited by PhantomPain; 06-09-2012, 07:22 AM.
    #WeAreUK

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #872
      Originally posted by HighRiser32
      Anthony Davis as 1 ok I'm a UK fan he has great shot blocking Potential. He has no post game, but he's got to turn out better than Greg Oden for anyone. Love the kid but damn on the offensive side of the ball, they had him pull high every play and clear out for UK, hopefully he has some trick up his sleeve. Supposedly he can handle like a guard I hope so. Marcus Camby type I'm seeing not too bad though for a #1
      Ugh.
      Game changer on the defensive side of the ball.

      If he blocks 2-3 shots a game and alters 4-5 others..that's at least a 10 point swing.

      His offense will come around eventually.

      I can't believe people don't feel he's "worthy" of being a #1 pick because of his lack of scoring ability.

      Camby..no. At least not for awhile. Camby could score at UMass.

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      • da ThRONe
        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
        • Mar 2009
        • 8528

        #873
        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

        I just don't see where Davis is the clear #1 pick. I don't think his offense will just "come around". I didn't see "guard skill" out of Davis at Kentucky and his big man skills are sorely lacking. He'll be affective blocking shots, but its no guarantee that he'll be as effective as he was at UK. The guys he see in the league will be an entirely different animal than what he just saw. His post defense is below par he was just able to recover most times due to his length and athleticism at the college level. Doubt this will be the case in the pros. He struggled to consistently create offense at the collegiate game. Don't see that improving vastly even over the life of his career.

        That's not even getting into his physique. Most guys can't tack on 10-20 lbs without some hit to there quickness, explosiveness, and/or leaping ability. We know he'll struggle playing the 4 at his current weight and/or strength level.

        Davis IMO is just as much of a risk pick as many of the other players. I think his college numbers (which IMO are inflated) combined with his college success(inflated as well), and the potential(which I think is higher in some other players) is what has player overrating Davis. I see a Serge Ibaka type ceiling for Davis. Which isn't bad, but far from the consensus #1 pick he has become.
        You looking at the Chair MAN!

        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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        • BlueNGold
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 21817

          #874
          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by leoalure
          Cleveland will pass on him and get Barnes because he is best friends with Kyrie Irving.
          Is he really?

          ****, ****, ****.
          Originally posted by bradtxmale
          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #875
            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

            His agent has done a poor job of preparing this kid for interviews. He just doesn't get it. For his sake and whichever team who selects him...I hope he can put it together. I can just imagine how he'll respond to reporters after he has a bad game.

            Andre Drummond Combine Interview:
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            • BlueNGold
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 21817

              #876
              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

              What was wrong with that interview?
              Originally posted by bradtxmale
              I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #877
                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                I just don't see where Davis is the clear #1 pick. I don't think his offense will just "come around". I didn't see "guard skill" out of Davis at Kentucky and his big man skills are sorely lacking. He'll be affective blocking shots, but its no guarantee that he'll be as effective as he was at UK. The guys he see in the league will be an entirely different animal than what he just saw. His post defense is below par he was just able to recover most times due to his length and athleticism at the college level. Doubt this will be the case in the pros. He struggled to consistently create offense at the collegiate game. Don't see that improving vastly even over the life of his career.

                That's not even getting into his physique. Most guys can't tack on 10-20 lbs without some hit to there quickness, explosiveness, and/or leaping ability. We know he'll struggle playing the 4 at his current weight and/or strength level.

                Davis IMO is just as much of a risk pick as many of the other players. I think his college numbers (which IMO are inflated) combined with his college success(inflated as well), and the potential(which I think is higher in some other players) is what has player overrating Davis. I see a Serge Ibaka type ceiling for Davis. Which isn't bad, but far from the consensus #1 pick he has become.
                The who is better than him?

                And why should he have to display "guard skill" at 6-foot-10 with almost an 8-foot wingspan?

                Why does every tall kid have to be like Durant? I know you didn't mention KD but I know that's what people are thinking since they bring up offense so much?

                Throw Serge Ibaka in last year's draft and tell me that he wouldn't be Top 3?

                And who says he has to be a leaper when he has incredible defensive instincts and length? Do you see Marcus Camby jumping out the gym to block shots?

                This is crazy. Who are these big, bruising PFs that are in the league that he should be worried about posting him up?

                Boozer, Griffin, Amare, Love?

                Most PFs outside of the few like LaMarcus Aldridge are settling for jumpshots nowadays.

                Davis will be fine. Get your focus off his weight.

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                • PhantomPain
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3512

                  #878
                  Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by da ThRONe
                  I just don't see where Davis is the clear #1 pick. I don't think his offense will just "come around". I didn't see "guard skill" out of Davis at Kentucky and his big man skills are sorely lacking. He'll be affective blocking shots, but its no guarantee that he'll be as effective as he was at UK. The guys he see in the league will be an entirely different animal than what he just saw. His post defense is below par he was just able to recover most times due to his length and athleticism at the college level. Doubt this will be the case in the pros. He struggled to consistently create offense at the collegiate game. Don't see that improving vastly even over the life of his career.

                  That's not even getting into his physique. Most guys can't tack on 10-20 lbs without some hit to there quickness, explosiveness, and/or leaping ability. We know he'll struggle playing the 4 at his current weight and/or strength level.

                  Davis IMO is just as much of a risk pick as many of the other players. I think his college numbers (which IMO are inflated) combined with his college success(inflated as well), and the potential(which I think is higher in some other players) is what has player overrating Davis. I see a Serge Ibaka type ceiling for Davis. Which isn't bad, but far from the consensus #1 pick he has become.
                  There is a huge reason why your views are not shared by the majority.
                  #WeAreUK

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                  • bigeastbumrush
                    My Momma's Son
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19245

                    #879
                    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                    Originally posted by BlueNGold
                    What was wrong with that interview?
                    His attitude.

                    I'm pretty sure most GMs, scouts, execs, etc. know his game and limitations. But I'm sure they're looking at how players respond in interviews and meeting with people.

                    He seemed visibly upset not to have to answer questions that he felt he already answered. When he gets to the league...he'll have to deal with that every single day.

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                    • Recktafy
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 112

                      #880
                      So what you guys think the Hornets will do with this years number one pick

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                      • BlueNGold
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 21817

                        #881
                        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by Recktafy
                        So what you guys think the Hornets will do with this years number one pick



                        Also:
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                        Originally posted by bradtxmale
                        I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                        • bigeastbumrush
                          My Momma's Son
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19245

                          #882
                          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                          That's a sweet jersey. Hope he picks #1 instead of #23.

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                          • da ThRONe
                            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8528

                            #883
                            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                            The who is better than him?
                            IMO Robinson, Kidd-Gilchirst, Drummond, and Beal for sure.

                            And why should he have to display "guard skill" at 6-foot-10 with almost an 8-foot wingspan?
                            That's a selling point for AD. The fact that he has guard skills.

                            Why does every tall kid have to be like Durant? I know you didn't mention KD but I know that's what people are thinking since they bring up offense so much?
                            I think you answered your own question here.

                            Throw Serge Ibaka in last year's draft and tell me that he wouldn't be Top 3?
                            The comparison isn't a slight to either Davis or Ibaka. I could see Ibaka as a top 5 pick in last years draft. Still not the consensus #1 overall pick and last year was a weak draft without a ton of depth.

                            And who says he has to be a leaper when he has incredible defensive instincts and length? Do you see Marcus Camby jumping out the gym to block shots?
                            Taking away from Davis' explosiveness as a leaper will definitly hurt him as a shot blocker. He'll most likely still be affective, but not what I think most people are projecting.

                            This is crazy. Who are these big, bruising PFs that are in the league that he should be worried about posting him up?

                            Boozer, Griffin, Amare, Love?
                            B.Bass, Z.Randolph, D.West, G.Davis, D.Blair, P. Milsap, D. Favors, T. Booker etc.. Not only will he have to defend these type of guys he has to fight for rebounds night in night out against them.

                            Most PFs outside of the few like LaMarcus Aldridge are settling for jumpshots nowadays.

                            Davis will be fine. Get your focus off his weight.
                            My focus isn't solely on his weight. It's an area that is a cause for concern. I'm more worried about his offensives impact and if he can defend the post.
                            You looking at the Chair MAN!

                            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                            • da ThRONe
                              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8528

                              #884
                              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by PhantomPain
                              There is a huge reason why your views are not shared by the majority.
                              Fair enough. However I will not waver on my opinion based on what other people are seeing or aren't seeing.

                              Let's not act like hype is irrevalent where guys are selected. Politics often play a huge role on how teams draft players.
                              You looking at the Chair MAN!

                              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                              • SteelersFreak
                                All Star
                                • May 2004
                                • 9582

                                #885
                                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                                Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                                That's a sweet jersey. Hope he picks #1 instead of #23.
                                He'd have to get Trevor Ariza to give it up.
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