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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19829

    #916
    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
    I think they go Meyers Leonard and Moe Harkless (if they're still on the board). If both are gone, Fab Melo and Quincy Miller.

    They need a shooter but Bradley is too good not to be starting at SG in the backcourt with Rondo.
    After reading the scouting reports on Harkless, I think he is a great fit for the Celtics. Good Size(6'8), good athleticism, and very versatile(rebs, blocks, mid-outside range, and defensive player). He is compared to Paul George. With him, Celtics can be more of a Athletic team that can run the court more.

    The only thing about Leonard and Melo is that they are both centers that have the dreaded "Potential". Melo is more raw than Leonard and Leonard has a better offensive game than Melo. I dont watch College Bball much. but I would really take Melo until late 1st-early 2nd rd. Right now he is just a rebounder and blocker at this point.

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #917
      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by illwill10
      After reading the scouting reports on Harkless, I think he is a great fit for the Celtics. Good Size(6'8), good athleticism, and very versatile(rebs, blocks, mid-outside range, and defensive player). He is compared to Paul George. With him, Celtics can be more of a Athletic team that can run the court more.

      The only thing about Leonard and Melo is that they are both centers that have the dreaded "Potential". Melo is more raw than Leonard and Leonard has a better offensive game than Melo. I dont watch College Bball much. but I would really take Melo until late 1st-early 2nd rd. Right now he is just a rebounder and blocker at this point.
      KG is an UFA. Jermaine O'Neal is retired.

      They have no Center. And if they go after Roy Hibbert who is a RFA...Indy will match him in a heartbeat.

      They need size down low.

      I believe Leonard won't be there but Fab will. He's a project but this class is weak on Centers. They'd be crazy not to grab one.

      I don't think Moe Harkless gets past Orlando.

      Quincy Miller measured out at 6'10 and can hit perimeter shots. His work ethic is questionable but Doc will light a fire under him. I'm sure they would hope that he could fill that KG role.

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
        Once in a Lifetime Memory
        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #918
        Originally posted by illwill10
        After reading the scouting reports on Harkless, I think he is a great fit for the Celtics. Good Size(6'8), good athleticism, and very versatile(rebs, blocks, mid-outside range, and defensive player). He is compared to Paul George. With him, Celtics can be more of a Athletic team that can run the court more.

        The only thing about Leonard and Melo is that they are both centers that have the dreaded "Potential". Melo is more raw than Leonard and Leonard has a better offensive game than Melo. I dont watch College Bball much. but I would really take Melo until late 1st-early 2nd rd. Right now he is just a rebounder and blocker at this point.
        I don't remember Leonard from the Illinois games I watched this year, but to defend Fab, he's shown great strides in his offensive game. He runs the floor hard and gets a lot of cheap buckets because of that and his offensive rebounding, but he's shown flashes of a hook shot and free throw jumper and has done a pretty nice job of reading defenses (but his passing has been VERY hit or miss). I think his offensive game is better than the numbers show. Everyone recognized that syracuses guard play was their strength offensively so he didn't get many touches. But he opened up a lot of lanes for our offense, and we looked a lot worse when he wasn't on the floor because he did a pretty nice job of setting good screens and he's an alley oop threat. I like him as an NBA player more than Dion Waiters as far as Syracuse guys go.
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        • BleacherBum2310
          All Star
          • Aug 2010
          • 7107

          #919
          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by Checmate101
          any chance Boston gets Austin Rivers?
          Possible. I've heard the wanna trade up but I don't think he's the guy they are targeting. Athletic SF or C would be my guess.
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          • OSUFan_88
            Outback Jesus
            • Jul 2004
            • 25642

            #920
            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

            I don't know how anyone could have watched Andre Drummond play this past year and think he was better, or would be a better player, than Anthony Davis. That's just not possible.
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            Urban Meyer is lol.

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            • ZB9
              Hall Of Fame
              • Nov 2004
              • 18387

              #921
              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

              i hope Dallas just takes the best player available at #17 and doesnt reach for need

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              • KG
                Welcome Back
                • Sep 2005
                • 17583

                #922
                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                I don't remember Leonard from the Illinois games I watched this year, but to defend Fab, he's shown great strides in his offensive game. He runs the floor hard and gets a lot of cheap buckets because of that and his offensive rebounding, but he's shown flashes of a hook shot and free throw jumper and has done a pretty nice job of reading defenses (but his passing has been VERY hit or miss). I think his offensive game is better than the numbers show. Everyone recognized that syracuses guard play was their strength offensively so he didn't get many touches. But he opened up a lot of lanes for our offense, and we looked a lot worse when he wasn't on the floor because he did a pretty nice job of setting good screens and he's an alley oop threat. I like him as an NBA player more than Dion Waiters as far as Syracuse guys go.
                W/o too much Gtown bias:

                I think Waiters game is tailor-made for the NBA. He has the ability to beat people 1-on-1, can handle it with strength, has the athleticism (does have to lose a couple of lbs), and can shoot it from distance enough to keep defenses honest.

                He does have to work on his shot selection and his attitude seems suspect but he has a solid skill set IMO.

                I like Fab a little too if he can keep his weight in check. He's still very raw but the jump he made from YR1 to YR2 was huge. I don't think he'll ever be dominant but a serviceable lively body who will rebound and block shots for a long time.
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                • D7H7N
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 19

                  #923
                  Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by leoalure
                  Yes really


                  But regardless of official friendship status, I do know that Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes are close. Maybe best friends, maybe not. Maybe you should punch me in the face for talking about best friends as long as I just did. (Bowers, 2012)
                  Barnes was originally supposed to go to Duke with Irving. They also hung out with each other a lot during their High School tenures. Anyways, it makes sense though, Cleveland needs a scorer. Besides already having great chemistry with Irving, Barnes has a high work ethic, he's very well-spoken, and he's a coach's dream to teach. We already know how great of a scorer he is so his only glaring issue is his ability to handle the ball on his own.

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                  • BlueNGold
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 21817

                    #924
                    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                    Originally posted by D7H7N
                    Barnes was originally supposed to go to Duke with Irving. They also hung out with each other a lot during their High School tenures. Anyways, it makes sense though, Cleveland needs a scorer. Besides already having great chemistry with Irving, Barnes has a high work ethic, he's very well-spoken, and he's a coach's dream to teach. We already know how great of a scorer he is so his only glaring issue is his ability to handle the ball on his own.
                    He has more issues than that.

                    And he didn't even come close to living up to the hype that surrounded him going into college.
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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #925
                      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #926
                        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by D7H7N
                        Barnes was originally supposed to go to Duke with Irving. They also hung out with each other a lot during their High School tenures. Anyways, it makes sense though, Cleveland needs a scorer. Besides already having great chemistry with Irving, Barnes has a high work ethic, he's very well-spoken, and he's a coach's dream to teach. We already know how great of a scorer he is so his only glaring issue is his ability to handle the ball on his own.
                        Sometimes it'll not always about the physical abilities of a player...........

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19829

                          #927
                          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                          I am following a draft scout on twitter and I see a 7' foot (without shoes) and almost 7'9 wingspan European. I dont know anything about the kid, but those measurements are great.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #928
                            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                            Rivers seems to have a promise... my guess is the Suns

                            Austin Rivers has reportedly received a promise from a team picking in the late lottery, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

                            Rivers did not fully participate in the NBA pre-draft combine last week.

                            He is scheduled to workout for Portland, Toronto, Houston, Cleveland, Phoenix, Washington and New Orleans.

                            The Suns own the 13th overall pick and have been open about their desire to add a perimeter scorer.

                            Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1xVLXKA2H

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                            • bigeastbumrush
                              My Momma's Son
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19245

                              #929
                              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                              Phoenix is a good fit for Rivers. All he does is shoot.

                              I'm sure Matrix would hate the pick though.

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                              • Hornetz
                                Rookie
                                • May 2012
                                • 275

                                #930
                                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                                On a whole different note from the lottery, I like David Stern as a commissioner. I think comparing him to the NFL's Roger Gooddell makes Stern seems heaven-sent.
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