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  • btrapp
    Rookie
    • Aug 2010
    • 242

    #376
    Re: Jeremy Lin

    Based on how racially biased sports media is, floyd's probably right. Still, it doesn't take away from the fact that lin's playing some great ball right now. His game (and numbers) will have to change a lot when amare and melo get back, and rightfully so as that team will only go as far as those two take them.

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    • TUSS11
      MVP
      • Nov 2007
      • 1483

      #377
      Re: Jeremy Lin

      What?!?! Jeremy Lin is Asian?

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      • Moses Shuttlesworth
        AB>
        • Aug 2006
        • 9435

        #378
        Re: Jeremy Lin

        Despite Mayweather's opinion, whether it's right or wrong he shouldn't be saying anything, lol. No need to say something that can only be construed as negative and adds nothing but the possibility of self-humiliation.

        Jeremy Lin is ballin. Nuff said.

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52918

          #379
          Re: Jeremy Lin

          I'm shocked that Floyd Mayweather was able to piece two generally coherent sentences together.

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          • SteelersFreak
            All Star
            • May 2004
            • 9582

            #380
            Re: Jeremy Lin

            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            Considering Lin has absolutely no shot in hell of winning the MVP. Yes, yes it really is stupid. $2400 could be spent a lot better than placing a bet that has no shot of happening even if it's like a few dollars to you.
            If Jeremy Lin ended up averaging about 20 points per game along with about 8 assists a game and the Knicks make it to the playoffs with a decent seed he sure as hell could win the MVP.
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            • RockinDaMike
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 9092

              #381
              Re: Jeremy Lin

              Being asian for sure is part of the hype. If Jeremy Lin is coming to your city book it that its going to be Asian Heritage appreciation night.

              This reminds me of when I was a kid and Hideo Nomo started blowing up the baseball scene in 95. Big market in LA and first Japanese player in the bigs. That delivery was crazy, brings back memories.
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              • 1Rose
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 2562

                #382
                Re: Jeremy Lin

                I see this thread has gotten out of hand.

                When it gets to the point where Jeremy Lin and MVP is being put in the same sentence, it's gone too far.

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                • Sam Marlowe
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1230

                  #383
                  Re: Jeremy Lin

                  Pretty good article:

                  Spoiler

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                  • bigfnjoe96
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 11410

                    #384
                    Speaking of Metta World Peace... His thoughts on J-Lin. LMAO







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                    Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 02-14-2012, 09:49 AM.

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                    • cjonesfan921
                      UGH, next year
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 20081

                      #385
                      Re: Jeremy Lin

                      Forget about ethnicity, Lin has made Jeffries look like a baller for 5 games. I don't care if you are white, black, green, or red; that's an achievement that deserves the highest regard!

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #386
                        Re: Jeremy Lin

                        Originally posted by 1Rose
                        I see this thread has gotten out of hand.

                        When it gets to the point where Jeremy Lin and MVP is being put in the same sentence, it's gone too far.
                        Not you, but this is another example of people jumping on things way too quickly without thinking it out first.

                        No one said Lin was going to win MVP.

                        All that was said is that if he somehow (emphasis on somehow) kept putting up the same numbers and led the Knicks to the playoffs, there is a very possible reason he could win MVP considering how voters are affected by these type of things.

                        Does it make it right? No. Would I agree with the vote? No.

                        Just saying that making an absolute statement that he will never win MVP is more ridiculous than saying he could. Because could only opens the door to a possibility whereas won't leaves no room for possibility.

                        It's the same thing as me creating this thread a week and a half ago and saying: "If Lin started right now and put up some numbers, he'd win Conference Player of the Week."


                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        We're about at the halfway point of the season and Lin has only played in five games, we all know how the voters feel about that kind of thing. Even if he was to keep up this pace, there is no way in hell he leapfrogs LeBron. He's not keeping up this pace anyway so it's a moot point. If Lin wins the MVP this season then I better see more people bitching about it than all the guys bitching about Derrick Rose last year.
                        It's actually only 1/3* of the season passed, but that's irrelevant because 2/3 of a season is definitely more than enough time for voters to be swayed. It usually only takes 1/3 of a season to convince voters anyway.

                        Rose was picked MVP 1/3 into last season. I'm sure you might not want to believe that, but I know for sure I heard it everywhere that Rose was the MVP. Just look at threads on OS from last year and you'll see it.

                        As for those that hated on Rose winning MVP (not me), they are the same people that would hate on anyone winning MVP this season including LeBron. It doesn't matter who wins. People like to hate and overvalue their own stars.


                        *1/3 of the season when Lin was placed into the starting lineup.
                        Last edited by CMH; 02-14-2012, 11:05 AM.
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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #387
                          Re: Jeremy Lin

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          Not you, but this is another example of people jumping on things way too quickly without thinking it out first.

                          No one said Lin was going to win MVP.

                          All that was said is that if he somehow (emphasis on somehow) kept putting up the same numbers and led the Knicks to the playoffs, there is a very possible reason he could win MVP considering how voters are affected by these type of things.

                          Does it make it right? No. Would I agree with the vote? No.

                          Just saying that making an absolute statement that he will never win MVP is more ridiculous than saying he could. Because could only opens the door to a possibility whereas won't leaves no room for possibility.

                          It's the same thing as me creating this thread a week and a half ago and saying: "If Lin started right now and put up some numbers, he'd win Conference Player of the Week."
                          That's the thing though, it's not ridiculous to say that Lin will NOT win the MVP this year. It's ridiculous to suggest that it's a possiblity based on something that's impossible to happen. He can't put up the same numbers that he is because the team's first two scoring options will be back. Derrick Rose was able to win MVP last year because no one was putting up any numbers/performances that really jumped out at you and his team had the best record in the league. LeBron James is averaging 29 points a game while shooting 54 percent doing it, Lin is not jumping him to win an MVP. Derrick Rose last year was putting up his numbers from the beginning of the year last year. Lin hasn't done anything until what, the 30th game of a 66 game season? Currently Lin's numbers are 11.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 4.1 apg on 49% shooting and 16% from the field. The kind of production he'd have to put up with both Amar'e and Melo in the lineup to even come close to what the other MVP candidates are doing is simply not possible.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #388
                            Re: Jeremy Lin

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            That's the thing though, it's not ridiculous to say that Lin will NOT win the MVP this year. It's ridiculous to suggest that it's a possiblity based on something that's impossible to happen. He can't put up the same numbers that he is because the team's first two scoring options will be back. Derrick Rose was able to win MVP last year because no one was putting up any numbers/performances that really jumped out at you and his team had the best record in the league. LeBron James is averaging 29 points a game while shooting 54 percent doing it, Lin is not jumping him to win an MVP. Derrick Rose last year was putting up his numbers from the beginning of the year last year. Lin hasn't done anything until what, the 30th game of a 66 game season? Currently Lin's numbers are 11.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 4.1 apg on 49% shooting and 16% from the field. The kind of production he'd have to put up with both Amar'e and Melo in the lineup to even come close to what the other MVP candidates are doing is simply not possible.
                            Which is why it was prefaced with IF he SOMEHOW put up the SAME numbers.

                            Come on, you really think I'm over here trying to argue that Lin will win MVP? I'm not crazy.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #389
                              Re: Jeremy Lin

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                              • Boltman
                                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #390
                                Re: Jeremy Lin

                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                That's the thing though, it's not ridiculous to say that Lin will NOT win the MVP this year. It's ridiculous to suggest that it's a possiblity based on something that's impossible to happen. He can't put up the same numbers that he is because the team's first two scoring options will be back. Derrick Rose was able to win MVP last year because no one was putting up any numbers/performances that really jumped out at you and his team had the best record in the league. LeBron James is averaging 29 points a game while shooting 54 percent doing it, Lin is not jumping him to win an MVP. Derrick Rose last year was putting up his numbers from the beginning of the year last year. Lin hasn't done anything until what, the 30th game of a 66 game season? Currently Lin's numbers are 11.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 4.1 apg on 49% shooting and 16% from the field. The kind of production he'd have to put up with both Amar'e and Melo in the lineup to even come close to what the other MVP candidates are doing is simply not possible.




                                I think it's beyond individual numbers that voters would be looking at if he were to even be considered for an MVP scenario. Everything you just posted is in regards to individual numbers for a player.

                                For something like this to happen for Lin, it would be a combination of him keeping pace with the numbers he's been having (highly unlikely) and turning around the Knicks record from their current status as a team with a losing record to one of that with not only a winning record that gets them into the playoffs, but a high seed as well (again very unlikely).

                                All highly unlikely yes, but possible.

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