Jeremy Lin

[bigeastbumrush]

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Of course not. Do you think he is getting all this hype and publicity just because he put together a string of good basketball games?

Yes...and his story coming out of nowhere. Media capital of the world as well.

Tebow's story did not come anywhere out of the blue and he played in a smaller market = much, much bigger push

This story is not getting blown up if we are talking about Malik Johnson from Alabama balling for the Pistons.

Malik Johnson?

We're talking about trying to manufacture a star- Tebow

vs.

Performance driven results (so far)- Lin

[Jasong7777]

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Anybody saying that this isn't Tebow is kidding themselves. This is exactly like Tebow, hype wise.

With that said, I hope he keeps balling.

My original post.

The race thing with Lin is so overstated.

You'd think we'd be past this by now. If Lin were a black graduate from Harvard and just came out of nowhere to light a fire under the league, would people be citing his race as the reason why he is getting attention?

I doubt it.

And really, you will put Lin on Tebow status? Not even close. Maybe in media coverage but the circumstances couldn't be more different.

We should be past it. All I was saying was the hype is just like Tebow's hype.

[Segagendude]

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and just like every player in the league after a game winner he becomes about as thug as you can get. Hands and arms stiff at his side with the skip walk back on defense.

I saw it more as "That's right, that's what I do every game". Kinda like Robert Horry hitting the game winning three pointer years ago against Sacramento in the playoffs.

Spoiler

Problem is, he DOESN'T do this every night, yet.

[slimm44]

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We're talking about trying to manufacture a star- Tebow

vs.

Performance driven results (so far)- Lin

Nobody was arguing that Tebow was a skilled QB than he was, they were talking about how a completely unskilled (for the NFL) QB was able to "lead" his team to a vastly different record than a more skilled QB in Kyle Orton. The attention he got was incredible, but not because of his skill. It was because with him, the Broncos started winning and nobody could explain it. He got TORE UP for how unskilled he was.

You don't get any better "performance driven results" than through winning. Unless you'd rather lose while looking pretty than win by looking bad.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Nobody was arguing that Tebow was a skilled QB than he was, they were talking about how a completely unskilled (for the NFL) QB was able to "lead" his team to a vastly different record than a more skilled QB in Kyle Orton. The attention he got was incredible, but not because of his skill. It was because with him, the Broncos started winning and nobody could explain it. He got TORE UP for how unskilled he was.

You don't get any better "performance driven results" than through winning. Unless you'd rather lose while looking pretty than win by looking bad.

The bolded is exactly the point that I am trying to make.

And that's just one of the many reasons why the Tebow comparisons are unfair.

Is the media hyping it? Yes.

But the reasons for it are different.

[Jasong7777]

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I guess we will agree to disagree.

But one thing we can all agree on is that he keeps playing well.

[ZB9]

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seems that Lin got some coaching from the Glove

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/02/oregon_state_beavers_basketbal_63.html

“Did you see the spin he put on (Lakers guard) Derek Fisher?’’ Gary Payton beamed after watching the New York Knicks-Los Angeles Lakers game. “Where do you think he got that from?’’

Yes, none other than the most popular basketball player on the planet, Knicks phenom Jeremy Lin, went to the Gary Payton School of Point Guard Play.

It’s not an actual school, of course, but Payton loves to school young players. Before crashing on couches in New York, Lin played hoops in Payton’s backyard in Las Vegas. This was after Lin came home from Harvard and just before a strong summer league showing earned Lin a contract with the Golden State Warriors in 2010.

Lin’s agent, Roger Montgomery, got Lin and Payton together - Lin grew up in San Mateo, Calif., and Payton in Oakland.

In Vegas, Payton said, he helped Lin refine his ballhandling and pick-and-roll skills. With Cunningham, Payton plans to work on ballhandling and becoming an NBA-ready, tough point guard.

“So that’s going to be a good thing for him, to work out just like (Lin) did, to get his skills right,’’ Payton said. “But I think he’s far away from Jeremy Lin because Lin is a point guard and he knows how to see the floor.’’

And Lin obviously can do the Payton spin.

“Once you get a guy on you, spin off of him, right to the bucket,’’ Payton said. “What he is now, I’d seen that in him all along.’’

- John Hunt

[CMH]

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The number of players simply enjoying the Linxperience is astounding.

Hearing about the Lakers jumping for joy as Artest ran down the locker room screaming "Linsanity!" after Lin hit the three-pointer; or LeBron speaking about how happy he is for Lin while mentioning that the League (see: Players) only cares if you can ball, not your race, is really great.

Shows the players also care about the game as fans. Something I honestly started to wonder if enough still did.

He is a bit of a sideshow act. But, I get it. I know I can remember times when I've played ball in high school or at the park and the little kid that shouldn't be able to ball started hitting some serious jumpers, everyone would celebrate. It was a big deal. You feel proud for those guys.

Heck, I've experienced the same when I was a 13-year-old kid trying to ball against 30+ year-old men in the park. I know I was a novelty act at times, but so long as I kept hitting jumpers, I kept getting picked and Lin is that guy right now.

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The Tebow comparison is ridiculous. Tebow is a Heisman winner, who played at a big name school, got national attention, won 2 National Championships.

Lin----well, until about two weeks ago, had anyone even knew who he was?What school he went to? Etc.? Tell the truth, Knicks fans----when it was reported he had been picked up, did you even know or even care who he was??

Let's stop the comparison please.

I will add, as a still-bitter Cavs fan, it's good to see someone other than LeBron leading off Sportscenter. My hope is Lin hits that same kind of game winner in the Eastern Conference Finals to knock James and Miami out, lmao.

[ZM Punk]

No. Me changing the adjective to great games instead of good games doesn't answer the question.

Like I said, what he is doing is great. But don't act like we didn't go through this for about 3 months with Tebow during football season. Thats all i'm saying.

Tebow had yet to perform close to the level of Jeremy Lin individually.

[DieHardYankee26]

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The Tebow comparison is ridiculous. Tebow is a Heisman winner, who played at a big name school, got national attention, won 2 National Championships.

Lin----well, until about two weeks ago, had anyone even knew who he was?What school he went to? Etc.? Tell the truth, Knicks fans----when it was reported he had been picked up, did you even know or even care who he was??

Let's stop the comparison please.

I will add, as a still-bitter Cavs fan, it's good to see someone other than LeBron leading off Sportscenter. My hope is Lin hits that same kind of game winner in the Eastern Conference Finals to knock James and Miami out, lmao.

I agree the comparison is pretty bogus. And to answer your question, I had thought his name sounded familiar, but I can honestly say that I thought the signing would be of little to no consequence and he wouldn't see the floor. Happy to say I was wrong though.

[jonpt]

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Didn't have time to go through every page but see many making comparisons to Tim Tebow. Has anyone mentioned Kurt Warner cause that's what came to my mind. Kind of came out of nowhere like Lin has. I don't know but seem like a more accurate comparison to me.

[wwharton]

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Didn't have time to go through every page but see many making comparisons to Tim Tebow. Has anyone mentioned Kurt Warner cause that's what came to my mind. Kind of came out of nowhere like Lin has. I don't know but seem like a more accurate comparison to me.

I think all the football to basketball comparisons are apples to oranges (and if there really aren't any basketball comparisons that work then that says even more about what he's doing here), but I agree that Warner is a MUCH better one to use than Tebow.

The problem with using someone like Warner though is the same as the Nash/Rose comparisons. Many will look at the entirety of his career to argue that Lin isn't even in the same conversation. And they would be right, but in the sense that they both hit the ground running at an incredible pace, I think Warner is the best comparison of the bunch.

[JerseySuave4]

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yea i've heard the Kurt Warner comparison a lot today and that's the best one because he too came from no where.

If i'm a Knicks fan i'm not worried about what happens when Melo comes back, i'm more concerned with Amare because he has lost the explosion he used to have big time. How many times last night did he get blocked. He just can't get up there anymore and with the surgeries he's had on his knees that'd be my big concern.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Tell the truth, Knicks fans----when it was reported he had been picked up, did you even know or even care who he was??

Here is what I said when the Knicks claimed Lin off of waivers in late December and the reason why I will never be an NBA scout.

Was Lin the best PG the Knicks could find?

Real headscratcher right there. I'm sure there's some D-Leaguers or undrafted rookies out there better than Lin.

I don't understand.

Me either.

I youtube'd him and just started scratching my head.

I don't understand.

Seeing how Bibby will barely be able to make it thru back-to-back games and TD so inconsistent...I refuse to believe a Jeremy Lin was the best option out there.

I know it's just for a backup spot and he'll probably be waived during the season but it's a questionable pickup.