Jeremy Lin

[DiceMan]

Re: Jeremy Lin

The biggest role NYC plays is that they've been starving for Knicks basketball to be relevant so any guy, especially one that comes out of nowhere and has the history that Lin has, is going to be praised even more.

If the Knicks were already achieving expectations and all that, and this guy was tearing it up, they'd still be talking but it would be more in passing, in my opinion. Why? Because that would mean the big guns they're paying millions for were getting the job done to begin with and they wouldn't be looking as strongly for a "savior"

Well said Matrix....I've been a Knick fan for 24 yrs and to say we've been starving is an understatement. NY is a basketball city @ it's core and to hear the Garden alive again is the best sound in the world.

[RockinDaMike]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Well said Matrix....I've been a Knick fan for 24 yrs and to say we've been starving is an understatement. NY is a basketball city @ it's core and to hear the Garden alive again is the best sound in the world.

Seriously, that last game at the garden was magic. I'm so glad I bought league pass this year. It sounded like 90's Knicks games in there.

[1Rose]

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Yea, would love to see him develop a stepback jumper.

I agree with the Nash reference. He already does a pretty good job keeping his dribble alive. If it's not there reset. Once again, something that will be learned with more work.

I'm not going to lie, I really like watching this team with no Melo. I know the Melo trade opinions have gotten out of control on this board as of late, but I don't think it should ever be ruled out.

We know D'Antoni's system works. We saw it in Phoenix for years with Nash and Stoudemire. A good PG is what makes that system work, not a iso SF that demands the ball in the half court. Obviously Melo is an amazing talent, there is no question about that and in NO WAY am I saying that Lin is all of a sudden more valuable than Melo, but winning should never be taken for granted and if you see success and someone comes in, and there is less success, then it should be addressed, no matter who the player. Realistically it's either Melo or the system. Something has to give. I know he said that he would work off of Jeremy Lin, but is it really that easy? He's played 9 seasons the way he is, that isn't all of a sudden going to change.

Remember last season? Felton and Stoudemire in D'Antoni's system, along with the crew had that team looking dangerous and Stoudemire playing like an MVP, insert Melo and the whole dynamic changed. It's clear that their styles of play don't compliment one another.

What I'm getting at is, if Melo comes back and nothing changes, the Knicks are going to have a decision to make. Build their team around Melo and bring in a new coach, or continue with what is happening now and trade Melo for someone that compliments not only Stoudemire, but Lin and the system as well.

That's just my two cents, and obviously Melo could come back and change his whole game completely and make us all look stupid haha

[RedSceptile]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I would have thought that tonight, with Stoudemire returning, that he would have seen a drop in his TOs, so I was kind of surprised to see he had 8 tonight. Like I had said, he seems to try and force passes that aren't there, and have seen him pick up his dribble in some questionable spots, and then be forced to make a bad pass. I believe he'll get it cleaned up though.

I understand him not getting a fair shake in GS with Curry and Ellis there, but Houston should smack themselves and the Knicks should too for almost cutting him. Glad he got a chance now, because this system really caters to his play. Not sure that he would have exploded on to the scene like this if he was on another team.

Don't see why we (Houston) should be smacking ourself I'm plenty content with Kyle Lowry.

[1Rose]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I think having Lowry and Lin would be a good problem to have don't you?

Unless all of a sudden depth is out of style in the NBA.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Jeremy Lin

What works in one pave doesn't necessarily work somewhere else. Look at the way our offense is schemed compared to the way D'Antoni's is not to mention the difference in personnel. Just because a player can succeed in one system doesn't mean he can succeed in all systems.

Case in point Ricky Rubio in Euroleague versus in the NBA. D'Antoni and McHake have very different philosophies you know.

[1Rose]

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Yea, I was just speaking hypothetically. I mean after watching what has happened, I can imagine Houston would like to have him back, no?

Like, I said I think he is in the perfect system for his game, but who knows what he could have done. He works off the ball really well, him and Lowry could have complimented each other. You really never know.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Jeremy Lin

If I had a crystal ball I'd rather have kept Rudy Gay all those years back...but I digress I wish the best for this dude just don't want to hear ” OMG Houston made biggest mistake ever!!! ” you'd have thought we cut the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan or something...

[JaySmooov]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Man whether he becomes a star or not, regardless of whether he becomes a HOF'er or completely disappears...

I think I'll say this moment he's having is something I'll remember for a while. Nothing short of magical.

[JaySmooov]

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Yea, I was just speaking hypothetically. I mean after watching what has happened, I can imagine Houston would like to have him back, no?

Like, I said I think he is in the perfect system for his game, but who knows what he could have done. He works off the ball really well, him and Lowry could have complimented each other. You really never know.

One of those Tom Brady situations; just like Brady fell into the perfect fit, Lin seems to have done the same. We'll never know how he would've done in GS long-term, or Houston, but it's interesting to wonder. Just like wondering "what if" Tom Brady got drafted by San Francisco or something.

[1Rose]

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If I had a crystal ball I'd rather have kept Rudy Gay all those years back...but I digress I wish the best for this dude just don't want to hear ” OMG Houston made biggest mistake ever!!! ” you'd have thought we cut the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan or something...

Don't think I said that.

I said, Houston should smack themselves for not recognizing that this guy can play. That's a failure within your organization to not recognize talent. Which might also be why they traded away Rudy Gay and why they are where they are at now. But I digress.

[RedSceptile]

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It happens. I'm pretty sure there have been bigger transgressions than Jeremy Lin alone in any franchises lifetime. Hell I can probably name 20 in the past two years alone. Like I said I'm happy for him but the way people I know are carrying on you'd think that everyone except Houston and Golden State somehow predicted this really good level of play happening. If you did, you're a sorcerer.

[1Rose]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Obviously no one could have predicted it.

But to somehow not recognize the skills he did have before he ever stepped on the floor, that he has now shown in the national spotlight, is pretty bad.

I mean this kid was cut twice and was sent to D-league. We're not talking about someone who had a chance before and fell on his face. That means those teams, had made the decision after watching him, that he didn't even warrant a real chance to start, let alone play meaningful minutes in the NBA. After next game, he will have surpassed the amount of minutes he had played in his whole career prior to this season. Seems pretty ridiculous when we here at OS watch him, and can decipher the things he does well and can see that he is a good player, just based on his skills, not even taking into account how he has exploded onto the scene.

[JaySmooov]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Obviously no one could have predicted it.

But to somehow not recognize the skills he did have before he ever stepped on the floor, that he has now shown in the national spotlight, is pretty bad.

I mean this kid was cut twice and was sent to D-league. We're not talking about someone who had a chance before and fell on his face. That means those teams, had made the decision after watching him, that he didn't even warrant a real chance to start, let alone play meaningful minutes in the NBA. After next game, he will have surpassed the amount of minutes he had played in his whole career prior to this season. Seems pretty ridiculous when we here at OS watch him, and can decipher the things he does well and can see that he is a good player, just based on his skills, not even taking into account how he has exploded onto the scene.

I know this is random, but...

Spoiler

You know, the guys in the sig shot forum probably want a Jeremy Lin edit But I heard you've moved on from 2K12 so I'll leave it at that.

[1Rose]

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I may come out of retirement for one more good edit.