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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #46
    Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

    I feel like this thread is a classic case of being caught up in the moment.
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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #47
      Hold on.. Having a great career point total doesn't make one you of the greatest scorers ever.. Hence the reason I didn't name Karl Malone
      Last edited by ojandpizza; 05-27-2013, 07:32 PM.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #48
        I still don't believe Durant is hands down a better scorer than LeBron.. I know last season if LeBron only averaged 1 more point per game he would have been scoring champ.. That's just 1 free throw a game, or just one time he shoots instead of passes on those 7assists per game..

        Durant usually plays more minutes than LeBron, gets more free throws than LeBron, probably more touches than LeBron, and scoring is always very similar.

        All in saying is, if LeBron wanted to be the scoring champ each year he could be. He's said so, his teammates from both Cleveland and Miami have said so, and Spoelstra has said so..

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #49
          Originally posted by SteelersFreak
          You realize that if Durant stays on his pace he will be right there with those names, right? What's so hard to fathom about him being one of the greatest scorers? His shooting range alone makes him dangerous and when you couple that with his ability to get to the basket and finish and also draw fouls, you have the makings of an all-time great scorer.
          I didn't say he wouldn't be ONE of the greatest.. I said he wouldn't be THE greatest. Huge difference.

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #50
            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            Gotta stop you there. Yes, Durant is a better scorer than LeBron, Carmelo is also a better scorer than LeBron. LeBron is the better overall player than the two of them, but they are better scorers. LeBron simply is not the shooter that they are. He can't score in consistently in the all the ways that they can. Winning scoring titles isn't the only thing that there is to your scoring ability and rating it up against others. No one can attack the basket like LeBron, if he attacked like he's capable of all the time I'm sure he could win some scoring titles too, doesn't mean he's suddenly a better scorer than either of those guys.
            Well I gotta stop you right there too. Being a better shooter doesn't always make you the better scorer.. Wilt wasnt a shooter, Jordan wasnt a shooter

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            • ClutchCity
              Pro
              • Dec 2008
              • 630

              #51
              Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

              Originally posted by Kashanova
              well he wouldn't break the career PPG record at this rate which is in the 30s. He'd also would need to play and maintain his scoring average in to his mid-late 30s to break the record for most points in a career. He's unlikely to break any seasonal scoring records so I don't see how it's ridiculous at all
              Well maybe I got ahead myself. I think he is a great scorer and its been proven. He may not break a single season scoring record. But he really is one of the NBAs best at scoring. Compared to LeBron when it comes to numbers in scoring its really close, but you have to go with facts "not what ifs" and Durant has led the league in scoring 3x in a row.
              Last edited by ClutchCity; 05-27-2013, 07:52 PM.

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              • z Revis
                Hall Of Fame
                • Oct 2008
                • 13639

                #52
                Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                I feel like this thread is a classic case of being caught up in the moment.
                Well now it's beginning to take the usual turn of another LeBron discussion/comparison anyway.
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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #53
                  Originally posted by z Revis
                  Well now it's beginning to take the usual turn of another LeBron discussion/comparison anyway.
                  I'm not making is a LeBron discussion. I'm just saying I don't think Durant is just a flat out better scorer than LeBron.. Those two are 1A and 1B in my opinion and neither will be the greatest scorer of all time... Durant maybe if he didn't have Westbrook and LeBron maybe if he didn't leave Cleveland to win some rings.. But that's not how it happened..

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                  • RedSceptile
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 3680

                    #54
                    Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    I'm not making is a LeBron discussion. I'm just saying I don't think Durant is just a flat out better scorer than LeBron.. Those two are 1A and 1B in my opinion and neither will be the greatest scorer of all time... Durant maybe if he didn't have Westbrook and LeBron maybe if he didn't leave Cleveland to win some rings.. But that's not how it happened..
                    ...

                    So it's a LeBron discussion. I have to give you props you find a way to squeeze LeBron in any and every discussion lol.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #55
                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      I feel like this thread is a classic case of being caught up in the moment.
                      Do you mean this as in people overrating Paul George because of this playoff run? Or what are you saying.

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                      • da ThRONe
                        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8528

                        #56
                        Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        I'm not making is a LeBron discussion. I'm just saying I don't think Durant is just a flat out better scorer than LeBron.. Those two are 1A and 1B in my opinion and neither will be the greatest scorer of all time... Durant maybe if he didn't have Westbrook and LeBron maybe if he didn't leave Cleveland to win some rings.. But that's not how it happened..
                        I don't know if "flat out" is the term. However Durant is noticeably better than LeBron. However LeBron isn't your C. Anthony, Bryant, or Jordan where he's looking to just hang as many as he can every night. That IMO what makes James so special.
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                        • ClutchCity
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 630

                          #57
                          Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                          Originally posted by da ThRONe
                          I don't know if "flat out" is the term. However Durant is noticeably better than LeBron. However LeBron isn't your C. Anthony, Bryant, or Jordan where he's looking to just hang as many as he can every night. That IMO what makes James so special.
                          As much as I don't like Lebron, I have to say in the aspect of scoring its not really flat out or noticeable by much. Lebron could led the league in scoring but he's a verelfish player. It's like you said this guy doesn't look to gun 20-25 shot attempts a game he's looking to do what he can to win.

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #58
                            Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                            This thread shouldnt even be brought up and this is why it's not fair to guys like George. Let the man be who he is and let him play and appreciate what he brings to the NBA instead of sticking him in comparison limbo.

                            ...and Pack is right, it was definitely a caught in the moment topic.

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                            • jeebs9
                              Fear is the Unknown
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 47568

                              #59
                              Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                              I think Paul George is going to be a solid player. But if people are saying he is going to be a top 5 player someday. I can't believe that for a second. He needs to improve a lot of his offensive game. Right now he's a defensive specialist in my hobble opinion. He's handle and off the dribble shot needs work. And I haven't seen him really finish well in the paint. And when I say "finish" I mean anything not a dunk. And finally... I just think he turns the ball over too much right now. Right now I see him as being a Rudy Gay type of player.

                              But I totally agree with Packman... This is one of those caught in the moment type of threads.
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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #60
                                Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                Well I gotta stop you right there too. Being a better shooter doesn't always make you the better scorer.. Wilt wasnt a shooter, Jordan wasnt a shooter
                                Jordan had a very good jump shot. Three point shooter? No, but he definitely had a very consistent jumper. LeBron? Not so much. LeBron can get hot and knock down some ridiculous shots, but he's not automatic with his jumper anywhere on the court.

                                Like I said, assessing one's scoring ability isn't simply looking at scoring championships. ****, Shaq has two scoring titles to LeBron's one. Would you really say that Shaq is a better scorer than LeBron? As for all this if LeBron really wanted to stuff. That's really a cop out. LeBron's jumper still isn't that consistent, he's still not a very good three point shooter and just saying well if LeBron wanted to he'd be the best scorer in the league isn't going to change his jumpshot. He can improve his jumper while still making others around him better. But let me stop talking about LeBron, this thread isn't about him.

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