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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #1591
    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    Parker also played in a tougher conference defensively, IMO..

    Also not sure where the stats came from, basketball reference has them both averaging 17.6 ppg in conference games. Actually according to BBR a lot of those stats are off.


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    I believe it's from StatSheet.com. I think they and BBR calculate some of the advanced stats a little differently. Not sure how the PPG can be off though unless this picture is from before the season ended, or if they included the conference tournament or something in their numbers.
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    • redsrule
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      • Apr 2010
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      #1592
      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

      Exum and MCW could play together. That makes no sense to me. Especially considering how successful the 2 point guard lineup of Bledsoe and Dragic was last year when healthy.
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      • ehh
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        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #1593
        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

        I'm not going to make too many assumptions on Exum seeing that we have basically 20 minutes of YouTube clips on him. He seems pretty darn similar to MCW based on the limited amount of tape I've seen. Maybe Philly thinks they're too similar. Dragic & Bledsoe's games compliment each other well, not sure it'd be the same story in Philly.

        If Philly works him out and feels that he's a better prospect than MCW then Philly might want to move MCW immediately and try to sell while his stock is still decent. If they try to pair Exum & MCW and it fails then MCW's trade value will probably take a decent hit. Philly needs to decide when to sell and it might be the smart idea to do it this summer.

        On another note, it's crazy how much negative press has been coming out about almost every player in this draft. I can't remember another season where basically every prospect is getting blasted and people are focusing primarily on their negatives. Maybe because this class had such high expectations for the last two years. I don't know, Parker is going to be a really good scorer IMO. Wiggins is going to be a really good two-way player. Embiid might be special, we'll see. It seems like the media has gone from one end of the spectrum to the other in the last six months regarding this draft class.
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        • Boltman
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          • Mar 2004
          • 18283

          #1594
          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

          I'd say all this negativity is just smoke, teams possibly trying to hide who they're coveting perhaps?

          Unless most of this stuff you're reading are evaluations not coming from the teams.



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          • turty11
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            • Apr 2013
            • 8923

            #1595
            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

            why would philly trade MCW for anything short of a proven all-star?

            he can litterally be an 18/7/7 with 2 steal guy or better for his entire career and is a walking size mismatch.

            they would be STUPID to trade him for a gamble in exum who doesnt even have a position

            stick MCW with a legit wing prospect in wiggins or parker and you have yourself a team that could be a top seed in the east in 2-3 years. especially if nerlens pans out to this potential all-star hype he got

            for all intents and purpose, philly could have a lineup of MCW, James Young, Wiggins, Thaddeus, Nerlens for the forseable future. Thats a boatload of young talent, sort of what OKC
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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #1596
              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by ehh
              On another note, it's crazy how much negative press has been coming out about almost every player in this draft. I can't remember another season where basically every prospect is getting blasted and people are focusing primarily on their negatives. Maybe because this class had such high expectations for the last two years. I don't know, Parker is going to be a really good scorer IMO. Wiggins is going to be a really good two-way player. Embiid might be special, we'll see. It seems like the media has gone from one end of the spectrum to the other in the last six months regarding this draft class.
              Everyone just has the prospect that they prefer and then tears down the other guys because they're all perceived to be on the same level. They all have their warts though.

              With Wiggins, you have his ball-handling, pull-up jumper, and touch around the basket.

              With Jabari, you have his semi-tweener status, poor defense, and potential of being a chucker.

              With Exum, you have his shooting ability, left hand, and inferior competition factor.

              And with Embiid, you have his back, undisciplined defense, and not really knowing when to use each move offensively.

              At least that's how I see it. Regardless, they're all great prospects in their own right and I'll be happy with whichever one we end up taking.

              Originally posted by Boltman
              I'd say all this negativity is just smoke, teams possibly trying to hide who they're coveting perhaps?

              Unless most of this stuff you're reading are evaluations not coming from the teams.
              Yeah, I know people within Milwaukee's organization have been told to basically leak out bit by bit that we love everybody so that the media won't have any idea who it is that we actually covet in that top 4.
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              • turty11
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                • Apr 2013
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                #1597
                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                maybe we can have another sullinger back fiasco with embiid and he falls to boston.....

                as far as teams saying bad things about prospects, its in EVERY sport.

                Look @ the nfl draft where all these teams were saying how bad JC's work ethic was to try and get him to drop past the #1 pick.

                im almost CERTAIN that if embiid's back is 100% ready to go atleast 1 team will leak a "red flag" to try and get him to drop
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                • redsrule
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                  • Apr 2010
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                  #1598
                  Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by Boltman
                  I'd say all this negativity is just smoke, teams possibly trying to hide who they're coveting perhaps?

                  Unless most of this stuff you're reading are evaluations not coming from the teams.



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                  With the negativity I think some of it is just scouts being dicks because they are "anonymous" and can say whatever they want no matter if it's true or not.
                  I have a feeling most of those scouts are ones on ****ty teams that constantly are in the lottery because they constantly make bad draft picks.
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                  • Checmate101
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 9947

                    #1599
                    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                    Wouldnt mind a CJ Fair or DeAndre Daniels pick Wizards..
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                    • ojandpizza
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                      #1600
                      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                      Originally posted by turty11
                      why would philly trade MCW for anything short of a proven all-star?

                      they would be STUPID to trade him for a gamble in exum who doesnt even have a position

                      1.Maybe they will get a proven All-Star in return?

                      2. Considering they can bring him in for pre draft workouts they should have a pretty good idea of what he can/can't do and whether he does or doesn't have a position, or fits what they believe they need as a team. They'll be able to make a pretty decent comparison between him and MCW who seems to be somewhat similar.



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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        • Dec 2006
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                        #1601
                        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                        Dario Saric will reportedly come to the NBA this year if he's drafted by Boston or LA.

                        Seems kinda stupid considering he isn't really being projected on their level and this will only cause him to slip further down the draft board for teams that were hoping he'd come over for them this year.
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                        • turty11
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                          #1602
                          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                          i swear to god if the celtics draft an over-seas guy (saric) i will find a new team.

                          still holding out hope for a vonleh/smart #6 pick, and tj warren, kj mcdaniels, or cleanthanoy early @ 17 draft
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                          • Majingir
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                            #1603
                            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                            If only......

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                              #1604
                              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              If only......

                              Who knows? A lot of mocks have him falling to the 16-20 range now. I really think you'd be better off taking Elfrid Payton if you want to go PG in this year's draft though. But neither will be as good as Lowry was this year if he leaves.
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                              • TheBrothers24
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                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1915

                                #1605
                                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Dario Saric will reportedly come to the NBA this year if he's drafted by Boston or LA.

                                Seems kinda stupid considering he isn't really being projected on their level and this will only cause him to slip further down the draft board for teams that were hoping he'd come over for them this year.
                                I hope LA doesn't fall for that bs him and his agent are leaking. He's not a top 6/7 type of player so maybe he thinks this will help him go higher. If anything he will fall to the Celtics second pick(#17),which will cost him money from where he's projected(between 10-14).

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